The Dinosaur Toy Forum: Version 1 Archive
« Microraptor gets color »

Welcome Guest. Please Login or Register.
May 23, 2013, 2:12pm



The Dinosaur Toy Forum has moved:

The Dinosaur Toy Forum: Version 2

Feel free to browse through five years of dino-discussion here in the Version 1 Archive! And then join in the ongoing discussion at The Dinosaur Toy Forum: Version 2

Newly listed dinosaurs (eBay.com) (eBay.co.uk) (eBay.de)




The Dinosaur Toy Forum: Version 1 Archive :: Dinosaurs and palaeontology :: Dinosaurs :: Microraptor gets color
   [Search This Thread] [Share Topic] [Print]
 AuthorTopic: Microraptor gets color (Read 507 times)
Griffin
Ultimate Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Aug 2009
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,929
Location: New Jersey
 Microraptor gets color
« Thread Started on Mar 8, 2012, 7:48pm »

Of course literally the SAME DAY I put up my painting of a brown microraptor I find out it was probably black....sigh

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notroc....lour-and-gloss/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJGiPzcalwU&feature=share
« Last Edit: Mar 8, 2012, 8:10pm by Griffin »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

[image]

Uploaded with ImageShack.us
zopteryx
Ultimate Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Nov 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 509
 Re: Microraptor gets color
« Reply #1 on Mar 9, 2012, 12:11am »

How cool!!! :D

Considering modern glossy-black birds (starlings, crows, ravens, grackles, etc) are quite social, I bet Microraptor was quite social as well.

The only part I don't get is this: "Spherical melanosomes tend to be reddish-brown, while rod-like ones are black or grey."
Is that the only colors melanosomes can make, or at least be preserved in fossils? So there aren't melanosomes for yellow or blue? ???
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
Libraraptor
Global Moderator
*****
member is offline





Joined: Jul 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,268
Location: Ostentrop, Germany
 Re: Microraptor gets color
« Reply #2 on Mar 9, 2012, 12:22am »

Thatīs nearly unbelieveable news! Now, if Iīm right, this is already the second dinosaur whose colour could at least in parts be identified, right?!
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
Dan
Ultimate Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]


[homepage]

Joined: Apr 2009
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,987
 Re: Microraptor gets color
« Reply #3 on Mar 9, 2012, 2:30am »

Actually, this makes it at least number four.

Anchiornis
Sinosauropteryx
Archaeopteryx
Microraptor

I admit, I don't relish the idea of the Carnegie Microraptor being repainted.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

thundercharge
Full Member
***
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Dec 2009
Gender: Male
Posts: 136
Location: Orlando, FL, USA
 Re: Microraptor gets color
« Reply #4 on Mar 9, 2012, 3:06am »

Awesome!
He's a pretty little fella! :D
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

gwangi
Ultimate Member
*****
member is offline

[avatar]



Joined: Aug 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 747
 Re: Microraptor gets color
« Reply #5 on Mar 9, 2012, 3:53am »


Mar 9, 2012, 2:30am, Dan wrote:
Actually, this makes it at least number four.

Anchiornis
Sinosauropteryx
Archaeopteryx
Microraptor

I admit, I don't relish the idea of the Carnegie Microraptor being repainted.


I'm honestly not a big fan of the Carnegie Microraptor and I'm not certain why that is.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

[image]
dinoguy2
Full Member
***
member is offline





Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 243
 Re: Microraptor gets color
« Reply #6 on Mar 9, 2012, 12:55pm »


Mar 9, 2012, 12:11am, zopteryx wrote:
How cool!!! :D

Considering modern glossy-black birds (starlings, crows, ravens, grackles, etc) are quite social, I bet Microraptor was quite social as well.

The only part I don't get is this: "Spherical melanosomes tend to be reddish-brown, while rod-like ones are black or grey."
Is that the only colors melanosomes can make, or at least be preserved in fossils? So there aren't melanosomes for yellow or blue? ???


There are no melanosomes for anything but brown, grey/black, and rusty red and pale yellow (see colors of mammal hair, chick down, etc.) Colors like red and yellow are made by caretinoids. Blue, green, purple etc. are made by irridescence alone.

If there were blue melanosomes, we could conceivably have blue-haired mammals. Blue melanosomes HAVE evolved in one type of frog and one type of fish, and green melanosomes have evolved in one type of bird (turaco), so it's not impossible, but very, very, very unlikely in most other theropods.

See my post here for more: http://dinogoss.blogspot.com/2010/10/guide-to-feather-colors.html

Note that this is a bit out of date. i've since heard that the biological pathways that allow birds to take carotenoids from their food and use it to color their feathers evolved only in neognahe birds. Anything more primitive than that probably could not have had bright red or yellow feathers aside from iridescent effects.
« Last Edit: Mar 9, 2012, 12:59pm by dinoguy2 »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
Pixelboy
Junior Member
**
member is offline

[avatar]

Prodigious!


[homepage]

Joined: Jan 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 55
Location: Angel Grove
 Re: Microraptor gets color
« Reply #7 on Mar 9, 2012, 6:43pm »

Amazing! I wouldn't mind a repaint of the Carnegie Microraptor - accuracy over style, in my book - but then the tail feathers would still be wrong. I say an entirely new sculpt is in order :)

Mar 9, 2012, 2:30am, Dan wrote:
Actually, this makes it at least number four.

Anchiornis
Sinosauropteryx
Archaeopteryx
Microraptor

Wait, what color was Archaeopteryx?
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged

If its tail touches the ground, I probably won't buy it. If its hands are facing the wrong way, I probably won't buy it. If it ought to have feathers and doesn't, I probably won't buy it. If it has vaned feathers attaching at its wrists, I probably won't buy it.

Unless it looks just like a Jurassic Park dinosaur :)
dinoguy2
Full Member
***
member is offline





Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 243
 Re: Microraptor gets color
« Reply #8 on Mar 9, 2012, 6:55pm »


Mar 9, 2012, 6:43pm, Pixelboy wrote:
Amazing! I wouldn't mind a repaint of the Carnegie Microraptor - accuracy over style, in my book - but then the tail feathers would still be wrong. I say an entirely new sculpt is in order :)

Mar 9, 2012, 2:30am, Dan wrote:
Actually, this makes it at least number four.

Anchiornis
Sinosauropteryx
Archaeopteryx
Microraptor

Wait, what color was Archaeopteryx?


It had at least one black feather. Only one feather was tested, unlike the Microraptor paper where numerous feathers were tested from various parts of the body.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
   [Search This Thread] [Share Topic] [Print]

Click Here To Make This Board Ad-Free


This Board Hosted For FREE By ProBoards
Get Your Own Free Message Boards & Free Forums!
Terms of Service | Privacy Policy | Notice | FTC Disclosure | Report Abuse | Mobile