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« Reply #40 on Feb 20, 2012, 3:52pm »

Something I have been trying to figure out is this:

In 2007 Safari released repainted versions of some of their sculpts. In the last 5 years they have done new sculpts of three species of the eleven they re painted. Spinosaurus, Carnotaurus, and Brachiosaurus are the ones. Why did they redo them only to remake them in the near future? That means that only two bigger sculpts are left to redo. Apatosaurus and Tyrannosaurus. Then all of the smaller herbivores, and carnivores. Just some food for thought.
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« Reply #41 on Feb 20, 2012, 3:58pm »


Feb 20, 2012, 3:52pm, jpengineer wrote:
Something I have been trying to figure out is this:

In 2007 Safari released repainted versions of some of their sculpts. In the last 5 years they have done new sculpts of three species of the eleven they re painted. Spinosaurus, Carnotaurus, and Brachiosaurus are the ones. Why did they redo them only to remake them in the near future? That means that only two bigger sculpts are left to redo. Apatosaurus and Tyrannosaurus. Then all of the smaller herbivores, and carnivores. Just some food for thought.


Although they may have a long term figure road-map and strategy they also need to respond tactically to competitors products hence what you have observed.
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« Reply #42 on Feb 20, 2012, 4:07pm »

That's true. I guess that's why the Spinosaurus was released so soon because of Papo, probably.
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« Reply #43 on Feb 20, 2012, 6:09pm »


Feb 20, 2012, 3:52pm, jpengineer wrote:
Something I have been trying to figure out is this:

In 2007 Safari released repainted versions of some of their sculpts. In the last 5 years they have done new sculpts of three species of the eleven they re painted. Spinosaurus, Carnotaurus, and Brachiosaurus are the ones. Why did they redo them only to remake them in the near future? That means that only two bigger sculpts are left to redo. Apatosaurus and Tyrannosaurus. Then all of the smaller herbivores, and carnivores. Just some food for thought.


They knew that many of their sculpts were out-of-date and needed time to revitalize the line. It was decided to do a bunch of repaints while they started rebuilding the line. In other words, I don't think they are eager to bring back the past--there's a lot of future out there still.

And yes, I know this from when the repaints actually came out, in correspondences.


Feb 20, 2012, 1:17pm, takama wrote:
I ment a line for the current ones, if they would to be replaced with updated sculpts. subjects in the line would be, the original Brachiosaurus, Allosaur faced Spinosaurus, Original Stegosaurus (if the rumors of it being replaced are true) and the original Triceratops and green T-Rex.

they wouldent have to keep them seperate from the updated ones, just put a mark on there tag that says it is a classic.


That would be great--but to maintain every old, obsolete model in required numbers--tens of thousands--would a) cost a lot of money and b) probably confuse the market
(2 Carnegie insert dino name here? As a store owner, I will buy the one I recognize! Pshaw!
You need to say this in the voice of a stodgy store owner.)
And c) they probably want their new sculpts to become their identified brand, and more importantly, they want to sell lots of them--having old and new just muddies the water, and potentially splits new-run sales (which is important to determine a figure's success--hence, the importance of purchasing cool and unusual things ASAP if you want to see more of them).

It will never happen, is what I am trying to say. ;D
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« Reply #44 on Feb 20, 2012, 6:31pm »

I think they could do it. They all but do it right now, two versions of Triceratops, Spinosaurus, Tyrannosaurus. Add a Stego version and they have a recreational replica line for carnegie.
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« Reply #45 on Feb 20, 2012, 9:18pm »

Safari posted a query on FB asking what retired figure people would like to see re-issued.

Honestly the older figures have been out so long it's not so hard to find any them really is it ? As far as the Dinos go anyway.
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« Reply #46 on Feb 20, 2012, 11:55pm »

I saw that and I posted resculpts mainly.
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Feb 20, 2012, 9:18pm, Blade-of-the-Moon wrote:
Safari posted a query on FB asking what retired figure people would like to see re-issued.

Honestly the older figures have been out so long it's not so hard to find any them really is it ? As far as the Dinos go anyway.


I can think of a few...like the Deinonychus trio, Dimetrodon and Protoceratops nest. Actually, I would love to see a new feathered Deinonychus trio.
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« Reply #48 on Feb 21, 2012, 12:29am »

I'd like to see a feathered Velociraptor from them
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« Reply #49 on Feb 21, 2012, 12:57am »


Feb 21, 2012, 12:03am, gwangi wrote:

Feb 20, 2012, 9:18pm, Blade-of-the-Moon wrote:
Safari posted a query on FB asking what retired figure people would like to see re-issued.

Honestly the older figures have been out so long it's not so hard to find any them really is it ? As far as the Dinos go anyway.


I can think of a few...like the Deinonychus trio, Dimetrodon and Protoceratops nest. Actually, I would love to see a new feathered Deinonychus trio.


That's the thing..would you want the older pieces re-released or just newer updated versions made..I'm voting for the latter.
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« Reply #50 on Feb 21, 2012, 1:22am »


Feb 21, 2012, 12:57am, Blade-of-the-Moon wrote:

Feb 21, 2012, 12:03am, gwangi wrote:


I can think of a few...like the Deinonychus trio, Dimetrodon and Protoceratops nest. Actually, I would love to see a new feathered Deinonychus trio.


That's the thing..would you want the older pieces re-released or just newer updated versions made..I'm voting for the latter.


I would also prefer the latter but given the rarity of those older pieces re-releases would be better than nothing at all.
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Feb 21, 2012, 1:22am, gwangi wrote:

Feb 21, 2012, 12:57am, Blade-of-the-Moon wrote:


That's the thing..would you want the older pieces re-released or just newer updated versions made..I'm voting for the latter.


I would also prefer the latter but given the rarity of those older pieces re-releases would be better than nothing at all.


I suppose. But are those pieces really rare ? I think I've seen before and they don't command very high prices it seems.
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« Reply #52 on Feb 21, 2012, 12:23pm »


Feb 21, 2012, 8:59am, Blade-of-the-Moon wrote:

Feb 21, 2012, 1:22am, gwangi wrote:


I would also prefer the latter but given the rarity of those older pieces re-releases would be better than nothing at all.


I suppose. But are those pieces really rare ? I think I've seen before and they don't command very high prices it seems.


Well they're certainly not as common as old Carnegie Tyrannosaurus, Stegosaurus, Triceratops and the like. I dunno, every time I see them on eBay they cost between $20-30, in the case of the trio anyway.
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Feb 21, 2012, 12:29am, jpengineer wrote:
I'd like to see a feathered Velociraptor from them

I've been banging on about this for a while. The bald one is just inexcusable...
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Feb 21, 2012, 7:45pm, Horridus wrote:

Feb 21, 2012, 12:29am, jpengineer wrote:
I'd like to see a feathered Velociraptor from them

I've been banging on about this for a while. The bald one is just inexcusable...

Yeah it is. Especially how well they do the feathered Dinosaurs.

I've noticed another thing, of their traditional figures they have only been releasing the bigger ones.....
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Feb 22, 2012, 11:37am, jpengineer wrote:

Feb 21, 2012, 7:45pm, Horridus wrote:

I've been banging on about this for a while. The bald one is just inexcusable...

Yeah it is. Especially how well they do the feathered Dinosaurs.

I've noticed another thing, of their traditional figures they have only been releasing the bigger ones.....


I guess the bigger ones are more popular..I'm pretty sure if they released new versions of the Proto and Deinonychus they would be larger stand alone figures..maybe the Proto would come with nest like the Maia redo.
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« Reply #56 on Feb 23, 2012, 3:35am »

I thought all those nests turned out to belong to Oviraptor instead of Protoceratops?
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Feb 23, 2012, 3:35am, Pixelboy wrote:
I thought all those nests turned out to belong to Oviraptor instead of Protoceratops?


yes its true, but that dosent mean they cant make a Protocearatops nest again
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« Reply #58 on Feb 23, 2012, 3:57am »

I suppose not. But, we have no idea what such a nest would have looked like, right?
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If its tail touches the ground, I probably won't buy it. If its hands are facing the wrong way, I probably won't buy it. If it ought to have feathers and doesn't, I probably won't buy it. If it has vaned feathers attaching at its wrists, I probably won't buy it.

Unless it looks just like a Jurassic Park dinosaur :)
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Feb 23, 2012, 3:57am, Pixelboy wrote:
I suppose not. But, we have no idea what such a nest would have looked like, right?

We do now. :D
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