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Re: The "Secret" Schleich Prehistoric Mammal
« Reply #20 on Jul 17, 2009, 3:18am »

Jul 17, 2009, 3:07am, bucketfoot wrote:
Is THIS the Bully Vulture you're talking about? Its the only one I can find on the web. Do you have a pic of the "Black Vulture" by Bully? Discontinued I suppose?

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Nope, this is the one:

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Item no. 69382, and it is not discontinued.

The one you show is no.69350, labelled as just a vulture (probably white back) and this one is discontinued.
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« Reply #21 on Jul 17, 2009, 3:32am »
Thanks! And MAN does it look GNARLY!!!
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« Reply #22 on Jul 17, 2009, 3:35am »
Ummm ... BTW, do you know where I can find one?
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« Reply #23 on Jul 17, 2009, 3:55am »
No, like sbell said, thats the "normal" vulture - decent looking, but not as nice as the Eurasian Black they did.

http://tgftoys.com/?mainURL=/store/category/896t/Bullyland.html
This guy. (if the link doesn't work, look under "birds") He looks better in person too, and hes BIG. If my camera wasn't futzy, I'd post a photo of mine.
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Re: The "Secret" Schleich Prehistoric Mammal
« Reply #24 on Jul 17, 2009, 3:59am »

Jul 17, 2009, 3:35am, bucketfoot wrote:
Ummm ... BTW, do you know where I can find one?


As CCM pointed out, TGFToys definitely has them both, clearly labelled.
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« Reply #25 on Jul 17, 2009, 4:09am »
Thanks - An unrelated question - Does anyone have the serial number for the Bullyland Deinotherium?

Thanks!

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Re: The "Secret" Schleich Prehistoric Mammal
« Reply #26 on Jul 17, 2009, 4:16am »

Jul 17, 2009, 4:09am, bucketfoot wrote:
Thanks - An unrelated question - Does anyone have the serial number for the Bullyland Deinotherium?

Thanks!

Vlad


No problem. And the Deinothere's number is 58351.

Now if anyone can tell me the number of their spotted hyena or of the mastodonsaurus, I would really appreciate it. Also their red panda and old marmot figure, hopefully!
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« Reply #27 on Jul 17, 2009, 5:25am »

Jul 17, 2009, 4:16am, sbell wrote:

Jul 17, 2009, 4:09am, bucketfoot wrote:
Thanks - An unrelated question - Does anyone have the serial number for the Bullyland Deinotherium?

Thanks!

Vlad


No problem. And the Deinothere's number is 58351.

Now if anyone can tell me the number of their spotted hyena or of the mastodonsaurus, I would really appreciate it. Also their red panda and old marmot figure, hopefully!


Thanks a million!! ;D
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Re: The "Secret" Schleich Prehistoric Mammal
« Reply #28 on Jul 19, 2009, 12:54am »
My personal favorite is Panthera atrox, the American lion, which, from all available evidence, was maned in the male and not in the female, thus good replicas of the modern African lion work fine.

Panthera atrox might have even have had a white morph, so the new Papo white lion family might be cool in an American Pleistocene diorama.

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« Reply #29 on Jul 19, 2009, 3:00am »

Jul 19, 2009, 12:54am, crypto1 wrote:
My personal favorite is Panthera atrox, the American lion, which, from all available evidence, was maned in the male and not in the female, thus good replicas of the modern African lion work fine.

Panthera atrox might have even have had a white morph, so the new Papo white lion family might be cool in an American Pleistocene diorama.



G-D it, you guys are BANKRUPTING ME! First I get roped into buying the Safari Moose and the Bylly Black Vulture, then the bigger Procon Bison that I'm gonna turn into the paleo-bison with long horns - now I have to get WHITE American lions???

Like I said in that other thread, this is why I HATE you guys.


so ........


where'd you get them? ;D ;D ;D ;D


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Re: The "Secret" Schleich Prehistoric Mammal
« Reply #30 on Jul 19, 2009, 3:13am »

Jul 19, 2009, 3:00am, bucketfoot wrote:

Jul 19, 2009, 12:54am, crypto1 wrote:
My personal favorite is Panthera atrox, the American lion, which, from all available evidence, was maned in the male and not in the female, thus good replicas of the modern African lion work fine.

Panthera atrox might have even have had a white morph, so the new Papo white lion family might be cool in an American Pleistocene diorama.



G-D it, you guys are BANKRUPTING ME! First I get roped into buying the Safari Moose and the Bylly Black Vulture, then the bigger Procon Bison that I'm gonna turn into the paleo-bison with long horns - now I have to get WHITE American lions???

Like I said in that other thread, this is why I HATE you guys.


so ........


where'd you get them? ;D ;D ;D ;D




It mighty save you a bit to consider that you may only need the white female lion--my understanding from research (by others of course) was that there is a good chance they were not maned--P.atrox was likely closer to P.spelaea (or P.leo atrox and P.leo spelaea if you prefer) and we have evidence--from graphic cave paintings--that those males were likely not maned.

And TGF Toys has them, of course!
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« Reply #31 on Jul 19, 2009, 3:51am »
Or - I could buy one of the female lions and sculpt a 'proto-mane' onto it - now that would be different!!
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« Reply #32 on Jul 19, 2009, 4:21am »
Sorry guys - but as far as the American Lion goes - the biggest cat of all time - I HAVE to go with this traditional Papo model for reasons that are fairly apparent from the photo:

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Re: The "Secret" Schleich Prehistoric Mammal
« Reply #33 on Jul 19, 2009, 5:26am »
Wow...that is a nice lion...I am going to have to add that one to my collection now :P
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Re: The "Secret" Schleich Prehistoric Mammal
« Reply #34 on Jul 29, 2009, 1:37pm »
Actually, in my museum, I have placed a standard-sized (1:40?) version of an African lion figurine with an authentic African lion skull next to a larger Safari, Ltd. Wildlife Wonders African lion figurine and a full-scale darkened LaBrea resin replica skull of Panthera atrox. It makes for a compelling contrast, even if a bit off-scale. The atrox may have been a fourth larger or more than today's lion.

BTW, sbell writes:

"P. atrox was likely closer to P.spelaea (or P. leo atrox and P. leo spelaea if you prefer) and we have evidence--from graphic cave paintings--that those males were likely not maned."

Very true, about the closeness. P. atrox may be merely a North American form of the cave lion, P.spelaea. And the cave lion's reduced relict is the modern African and Asian lion, P. leo.

But I have to disagree with the statement about cave lions not being maned. F. E. Koby studied prehistoric drawings and sculptures, and found two types of Pleistocene felids represented in Europe, one without manes and one with a mane and tufted tail.

C. A. W. Guggisberg wrote in Simba: Life of the Lion: "Two lions in the Gotto des Trois-Frères, of which one is maned, turn their heads towards the viewer and stare at him with big eyes."

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Panthera atrox, shown 25% larger than the modern lion, in this art by natural history illustrator Carl Buell, shared by fair use, for intellectual commentary only.
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Re: The "Secret" Schleich Prehistoric Mammal
« Reply #35 on Aug 16, 2009, 8:50pm »
Here is another view of the various European prehistoric cave art of cave lions.
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Re: The "Secret" Schleich Prehistoric Mammal
« Reply #36 on Jan 24, 2010, 9:48pm »
Hmmm ::),
I guess.... :-/ .... IT'S A MUSK OX! What have i won? What have i won! :P
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Re: The "Secret" Schleich Prehistoric Mammal
« Reply #37 on Jan 24, 2010, 10:01pm »

Jan 24, 2010, 9:48pm, dinodinkies wrote:
Hmmm ::),
I guess.... :-/ .... IT'S A MUSK OX! What have i won? What have i won! :P


;DThe chance to be reminded to look at the dates of posts? This went out in July (note--I answered correctly first, I rule :P). ;D

So, good for you? For reading old threads? Of course, this one is getting locked now.
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