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Post by bucketfoot on Jul 16, 2009 2:59:33 GMT
OK gang - I thought we'd have a little fun here. I will describe the figure in general terms, and you have to guess correctly what animal it is. The prize? Why the satisfaction of having out-witted your fellow forum members, of course!!!  Yes, it is true. Schleich produced a 'secret' (sort of) prehistoric mammal from the last ice age that is NOT, repeat, NOT included in its 'prehistoric mammals' collection (as so beautifully presented by Boki on another thread). This figure is dark brown with a little light brown on top, about 5" long, and - although possibly discontinued - can STILL be found for sale on the Internet (salivating yet?) ;D Now again - this is a bona fide Ice Age mammal, one of the animals whose herds strode past the herds of Wooly Mammoths and the occassional Wooly Rhino - IN THE SNOWS of the North. (Yes there are hints here aplenty). Oh did I mention it lived in herds in the SNOW? May have given away a bit too much there. Anyhow, let the guessing begin. If you want to have a LEGITIMATE Ice Age Mammal Schleich collection, there is no getting around having to have this one!! Any ideas? Hmmmm??? ;D |
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Post by sbell on Jul 16, 2009 3:05:32 GMT
OK gang - I thought we'd have a little fun here. I will describe the figure in general terms, and you have to guess correctly what animal it is. The prize? Why the satisfaction of having out-witted your fellow forum members, of course!!! Yes, it is true. Schleich produced a 'secret' (sort of) prehistoric mammal from the last ice age that is NOT, repeat, NOT included in its 'prehistoric mammals' collection (as so beautifully presented by Boki on another thread). This figure is dark brown with a little light brown on top, about 5" long, and - although possibly discontinued - can STILL be found for sale on the Internet (salivating yet?) ;D Now again - this is a bona fide Ice Age mammal, one of the animals whose herds strode past the herds of Wooly Mammoths and the occassional Wooly Rhino - IN THE SNOWS of the North. (Yes there are hints here aplenty). Oh did I mention it lived in herds in the SNOW? May have given away a bit too much there. Anyhow, let the guessing begin. If you want to have a LEGITIMATE Ice Age Mammal Schleich collection, there is no getting around having to have this one!! Any ideas? Hmmmm??? ;D He's talking about the Musk Ox. And it has been discontinued. |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Jul 16, 2009 3:05:10 GMT
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Post by john2xtheman on Jul 16, 2009 3:09:05 GMT
I was unaware there were any other mammals by Schleich,and Ice Age mammals are not a field I know much about,but that won't stop me from making a guess anyway.  Megaceros? |
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Post by john2xtheman on Jul 16, 2009 3:10:42 GMT
I see the right answer has popped up just above my wild guess. |
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Post by sbell on Jul 16, 2009 3:16:46 GMT
Wouldn't this be more suited to games? Done. |
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Post by bucketfoot on Jul 16, 2009 3:29:02 GMT
OK gang - I thought we'd have a little fun here. I will describe the figure in general terms, and you have to guess correctly what animal it is. The prize? Why the satisfaction of having out-witted your fellow forum members, of course!!! Yes, it is true. Schleich produced a 'secret' (sort of) prehistoric mammal from the last ice age that is NOT, repeat, NOT included in its 'prehistoric mammals' collection (as so beautifully presented by Boki on another thread). This figure is dark brown with a little light brown on top, about 5" long, and - although possibly discontinued - can STILL be found for sale on the Internet (salivating yet?) ;D Now again - this is a bona fide Ice Age mammal, one of the animals whose herds strode past the herds of Wooly Mammoths and the occassional Wooly Rhino - IN THE SNOWS of the North. (Yes there are hints here aplenty). Oh did I mention it lived in herds in the SNOW? May have given away a bit too much there. Anyhow, let the guessing begin. If you want to have a LEGITIMATE Ice Age Mammal Schleich collection, there is no getting around having to have this one!! Any ideas? Hmmmm??? ;D He's talking about the Musk Ox. And it has been discontinued. @#!$%!&*!!! Maybe I should have specifically excluded the Mods from participating.  What a party pooper! I had hoped to stretch this out at least a little while!!! Yes, we're talking about the Musk Ox - the only woolly ice age mammal to survive the great Pleistocene extinction. (GRUMPFH!) |
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Post by bucketfoot on Jul 16, 2009 3:30:17 GMT
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Post by sauropodlet on Jul 16, 2009 3:43:03 GMT
It is the musk ox; I bought three of them when I found out they were discontinued. It's a great figure--I LOVE the frost on its nose. It displays really nicely with the other ice age figures.
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Post by sbell on Jul 16, 2009 3:53:03 GMT
He's talking about the Musk Ox. And it has been discontinued. @#!$%!&*!!! Maybe I should have specifically excluded the Mods from participating. What a party pooper! I had hoped to stretch this out at least a little while!!! Yes, we're talking about the Musk Ox - the only woolly ice age mammal to survive the great Pleistocene extinction. (GRUMPFH!) Saiga antelope almost fit that bill as well (and there were a lot of other musk oxen that went extinct). |
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Post by crazycrowman on Jul 16, 2009 5:26:04 GMT
@#!$%!&*!!! Maybe I should have specifically excluded the Mods from participating. What a party pooper! I had hoped to stretch this out at least a little while!!! Yes, we're talking about the Musk Ox - the only woolly ice age mammal to survive the great Pleistocene extinction. (GRUMPFH!) Saiga antelope almost fit that bill as well (and there were a lot of other musk oxen that went extinct). Don't forget the Bison (And Schleich did do a Wisent!) - and though not woolly, the Pronghorn I just saw an excellent bison calf for sale by schleich yesterday. |
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Post by bucketfoot on Jul 16, 2009 5:40:19 GMT
Yes, but today's bison is the dwarf relative of the Pleistocene Bison, which was much larger with a 6.5-foot horn spread. and was 7 feet tall at the shoulder, weighing a ton. (I customized a Schleich Bison by extending the horns for my collection).   |
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Post by sbell on Jul 16, 2009 13:10:25 GMT
Pronghorn aren't Ice Age--antilocaprids were in North America long before. They're just the last remaining species.
And technically, even moose fit into the large mammals of the Ice Age criteria.
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Post by bucketfoot on Jul 16, 2009 14:47:35 GMT
Pronghorn aren't Ice Age--antilocaprids were in North America long before. They're just the last remaining species. And technically, even moose fit into the large mammals of the Ice Age criteria. Hmmmmm...so now I have to get a Moose figure, too, eh? You're really quite the troublemaker today ;D |
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Post by sbell on Jul 16, 2009 14:59:16 GMT
Pronghorn aren't Ice Age--antilocaprids were in North America long before. They're just the last remaining species. And technically, even moose fit into the large mammals of the Ice Age criteria. Hmmmmm...so now I have to get a Moose figure, too, eh? You're really quite the troublemaker today ;D At least moose figures are relatively easy to come by (in 1/40, I don't know)--I can think of at least the Schleich one, the new Safari one (which is great), the CollectA one, the Bully one, and Papo. And those are just the major companies. Plus, with your modifying skills, you could probably create a pretty decent Cervalces (the elk moose or stag moose) which would also be appropriate.  Of course, you probably already have a Pronghorn or two...New Ray made a couple of decent ones, some of them might fit the 1/40 scale. The best one is the Safari one, but it would be way too large. |
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Post by crazycrowman on Jul 16, 2009 15:35:26 GMT
Huh, I forgot to add the moose, and didn't know that pronghorns weren't considered "ice age relics". (I had heard someone somewhere call them this - probably one of those blasted TV shows) I know we used to have some very interesting pronghorn species here, dating quite far back in time.
I know about the modern Bison compared to their giant ancestors....I never enlarged the horns on mine though.
I guess the whole "ice age" distinction sort of confuses me, as to what is an ice age mammal, and whats not...Giant beavers would be ice age mammals then, right ? American "cheetahs" ? What about condors for an ice age bird ?
Safari did make a new flying California Condor. Also Schleich did a nice big perched Andean Condor. I guess either one could stand in as well for the the Eastern Condor ? (who they think went extinct along with the rest of the Pleistocene megafauna, leaving only the California in the USA)
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Post by sbell on Jul 16, 2009 17:03:34 GMT
Huh, I forgot to add the moose, and didn't know that pronghorns weren't considered "ice age relics". (I had heard someone somewhere call them this - probably one of those blasted TV shows) I know we used to have some very interesting pronghorn species here, dating quite far back in time. I know about the modern Bison compared to their giant ancestors....I never enlarged the horns on mine though. I guess the whole "ice age" distinction sort of confuses me, as to what is an ice age mammal, and whats not...Giant beavers would be ice age mammals then, right ? American "cheetahs" ? What about condors for an ice age bird ? Safari did make a new flying California Condor. Also Schleich did a nice big perched Andean Condor. I guess either one could stand in as well for the the Eastern Condor ? (who they think went extinct along with the rest of the Pleistocene megafauna, leaving only the California in the USA) The large vulture made by Bullyland also makes a great stand in for Teratornis. American cheetahs (Miracinonyx) would have been Pleistocene fauna, but it would be incorrect to just buy a cheetah and use it--they were closer to cougars (which I suppose would also have been present). Also, depending where you are, jaguars are appropriate. And if you really push it, there were also hunting hyenas--Chasmaporthetes--that filled the cheetah role before Miracononyx evolved (the hyenas are what drove the antilocaprids to get faster). EDIT--on the Ice Age Pronghorn thing, I find it is difficult to refer to the as Ice Age animals (although they were here) since they showed up in the late Oligoce/early Miocene. Which reminds me--there were species of camels that would be appropriate as well (llama-types, not dromedary types). |
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Post by crazycrowman on Jul 16, 2009 19:23:55 GMT
The large vulture made by Bullyland also makes a great stand in for Teratornis. I have that guy - the Black Vulture, correct ? Hes huge, good looking, and size wise, and works great as a teratorn next to the other figures. The normal bullyland vulture is OK looking, but VERY old world/African vulture looking (granted, I know there were old world type vultures living here during that time, along with the new world stork derived vultures like the turkey vulture, king vulture and condors - the only place we know both types shared space) but as terratorns were something...else, thought closer to the new world vultures. The black vulture, with its honking big beak, fluffy head and neck ruff seems a little more suited to the job. Many scientists represent the terratorns with feathered heads anymore anyway.  Eurasian Black Vulture Anyway, the point I was getting at, was that compared to the black vulture, IMO, the normal bullyland vulture is not as nicely detailed. Bullyland makes a nice (though large) raven figure too, (so does Schleich) another appropriate "ice age" bird. There are also various eagles you can dub in to represent the Woodward's Eagle or the Grinnell's Crested Eagle. |
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Post by stoneage on Jul 17, 2009 0:43:45 GMT
The Ice age lasted from 70,000 YA to 10,000 YA. That means that anything that lived during that period was an Ice age animal even if it lived in a warmer climate. Although we normally think of hairy mammals there were other animals during the ice age. There were Snakes, Salamanders, Frogs and Toads. The California Condor, Teratorns, Sandhill Cranes, Ravens, Quails and Turkeys etc. Whats wrong with Pronghorn Deers. What about Capromeryx minor, Breameryx minor or Antilocapra americana. Bos Primigenius, Canis dirus (Dire Wolf), Coelodonta antiquitatis (Wooly Rhino), Doedicurus, Glyptodon, Homo Sapiens neanerthalenis, Homo Sapiens Cro -Magnon, Macrauchenia,Mammuthus primigenius (Wooly Mammoth), Megaloceros, Megatherium, Palaeoloxodon naumanni, Smilodon, Titanis walleri and Ursus spelaeus all lived at this time. American Mammoth, Imperial Mammoth, Columbian Mammoth, Short-Faced Bear, American Lion and Cheetah, Giant Beaver, Western Camel, and on and on. ;D
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Post by bucketfoot on Jul 17, 2009 3:07:50 GMT
Is THIS the Bully Vulture you're talking about? Its the only one I can find on the web. Do you have a pic of the "Black Vulture" by Bully? Discontinued I suppose?  |
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