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Post by thagomizer on Sept 22, 2008 22:08:22 GMT
A theropod is a DE-modified bird. I, at least, will be interested to see what comes of this. I can see it now first people will start screaming, then running and finally dying! Help its here, it's gonna Even JP knows the way JP portrays dinosaurs is complete BS. They even had to come up with a logical excuse why T. rex would go on a Godzilla-style rampage: drugs! If a T. rex as running around loose in a populated area and wasn't automatically afraid of humans, cars, etc., somebody, or a cop or something would just shoot it in the head. The end.
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Post by richard on Sept 22, 2008 22:14:42 GMT
Sure, police armed with .9mm weapons will kill easily a t-rex Once I saw a video of a poor elephant that got angry with his trainer and killed him and broke the jail of the circus it was on. It made a big mess but it took the cops 88 shoots to kill him. Now I wonder how many would take to take down a t rex?
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Post by Tyrannax on Sept 22, 2008 22:31:09 GMT
Tyrannosaurus would tear up those cops before finally dying. In any case, weapons are cheating. Tyrannosaurus dosen't use guns. Lets put 100 cops against a T-Rex without using guns. Now that's fair. ;D
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Post by sid on Sept 22, 2008 22:37:32 GMT
Lets put 100 cops against a T-Rex without using guns. Now that's fair. ;D Eh eh eh... ;D
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Sept 22, 2008 22:41:37 GMT
T Tyrannosaurus dosen't use guns. oh yeah ! ?;D
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Post by stoneage on Sept 22, 2008 23:08:08 GMT
;D Don't they use an elephant gun when they hunt elephants. I would think you would need something more then a 9mm. I know the police have had trouble bringing people down with a .38 pistol. If I was hunting a T-Rex I think my weapon of choice would be a Bazooka. ;D
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Post by thagomizer on Sept 23, 2008 9:02:34 GMT
Tyrannosaurus would tear up those cops before finally dying. In any case, weapons are cheating. Tyrannosaurus dosen't use guns. Lets put 100 cops against a T-Rex without using guns. Now that's fair. ;D You think an animal being shot at is gonna run *towards* the cops?
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Post by itstwentybelow on Sept 23, 2008 17:54:15 GMT
I'm a bit skeptical of this. I watched the show, but it's going to take a lot more than just growing teeth and tails in chicken embryos to get something even close to resembling a theropod dinosaur. Don't get your hopes up for seeing this happen anytime soon, kustom.
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Post by Tyrannax on Sept 23, 2008 19:16:40 GMT
Tyrannosaurus would tear up those cops before finally dying. In any case, weapons are cheating. Tyrannosaurus dosen't use guns. Lets put 100 cops against a T-Rex without using guns. Now that's fair. ;D You think an animal being shot at is gonna run *towards* the cops? If it's a mother Tyrannosaurus protecting her young, yes she would run right at the cops and attack. Its pure instinct. Does a mother bear attack a hunter even though it is being shot at? Yes, yes it does.
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Post by richard on Sept 23, 2008 23:10:32 GMT
You think an animal being shot at is gonna run *towards* the cops? If it's a mother Tyrannosaurus protecting her young, yes she would run right at the cops and attack. Its pure instinct. Does a mother bear attack a hunter even though it is being shot at? Yes, yes it does. oh yes, mother bears are one of the most dangerous animals... but of course a t rex would prefer to escape from danger, but if necessary, it would attack. That's nature
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Post by kustom65 on Sept 23, 2008 23:33:31 GMT
Everyone knows T. rex was just a scavenger ... so nothing to worry about!! You could walk right up to it and pet it.
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Post by Tyrannax on Sept 24, 2008 3:31:15 GMT
Please don't get me started. Tyrannosaurus was NOt, I repeat NOt a scavenger. He was an oppurtunist most likely, like a lion. It has been researched and it is concluded that he most likely couldn't support his weight by just eating carcasses that he found. One major adaptation he had was excellent depth perception - meaning he could actually face his prey or adversary and attack head on. Would he really need this for scavenging? No, he'd need good olfactory cells. Which he does, but this doesn't necessarily prove scavenging, just a sharp nose for finding prey, or possibly, kills when he could find them. But he is, in no way, just a scavenger. He has too many hunting advantages too much evidence of predation, but I won't get into that right now. I'm sorry I had to sum this up into a paragraph, but I could go on and on. If you need more info on Tyrannosaurus, just pm me.
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Post by tomhet on Sept 24, 2008 3:33:57 GMT
You really don't get sarcasm, do you?
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Post by Tyrannax on Sept 24, 2008 3:36:13 GMT
You really don't get sarcasm, do you? Not with T-Rex, no.
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Post by sbell on Sept 24, 2008 3:40:10 GMT
Please don't get me started. Tyrannosaurus was NOt, I repeat NOt a scavenger. He was an oppurtunist most likely, like a lion. It has been researched and it is concluded that he most likely couldn't support his weight by just eating carcasses that he found. One major adaptation he had was excellent depth perception - meaning he could actually face his prey or adversary and attack head on. Would he really need this for scavenging? No, he'd need good olfactory cells. Which he does, but this doesn't necessarily prove scavenging, just a sharp nose for finding prey, or possibly, kills when he could find them. But he is, in no way, just a scavenger. He has too many hunting advantages too much evidence of predation, but I won't get into that right now. I'm sorry I had to sum this up into a paragraph, but I could go on and on. If you need more info on Tyrannosaurus, just pm me. A lion is nothing more than an opportunist, thieving jerk. Lionesses do all the work, hyenas hunt and then lose it to big guys with cat mullets, leopards get killed by bullies after all of their hard work. Do you really want T rex associated with that? And for the record, T rex's olfactory was not nearly as large or as good as once thought (the research that told us that, through Crichton, looked at the wrong part of the brain, apparently).
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Post by kustom65 on Sept 24, 2008 3:45:02 GMT
Please don't get me started. Tyrannosaurus was NOt, I repeat NOt a scavenger. He was an oppurtunist most likely, like a lion. It has been researched and it is concluded that he most likely couldn't support his weight by just eating carcasses that he found. One major adaptation he had was excellent depth perception - meaning he could actually face his prey or adversary and attack head on. Would he really need this for scavenging? No, he'd need good olfactory cells. Which he does, but this doesn't necessarily prove scavenging, just a sharp nose for finding prey, or possibly, kills when he could find them. But he is, in no way, just a scavenger. He has too many hunting advantages too much evidence of predation, but I won't get into that right now. I'm sorry I had to sum this up into a paragraph, but I could go on and on. If you need more info on Tyrannosaurus, just pm me. I was indeed joking! There's no way T.rex was a scavenger -- well, you've seen my painting! My belief is that T.rex was a very patient ambush predator -- it HAD to rely on the element of surprise. It couldn't simply walk up to its desired prey item from a distance, although that's just what many paintings and CGI scenarios depict. That prey is gonna FLEE LIKE CRAZY unless it doesn't see Rex until it's too late. I even harbour a secret theory that rexes may have lurked near the shore in water holes, etc. I can't see any reason why not.
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Post by kustom65 on Sept 24, 2008 3:48:03 GMT
As for T.rex having a great sense of smell to prove the scavenger idea, well that's just silly. A highly-developed sense of smell is also very useful for detecting LIVE prey, an invaluable asset for a predator that had to lurk in wait for hours on end.
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Post by tomhet on Sept 24, 2008 3:54:33 GMT
I do wonder how they hunted, I mean, it was pretty big and all (so much for stealth and swiftness)
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Post by kustom65 on Sept 24, 2008 3:59:20 GMT
I do wonder how they hunted, I mean, it was pretty big and all (so much for stealth and swiftness) I just see it as suddenly lunging out from behind heavy foliage, rocks or water and grabbing it's prey in those massive jaws. That'd be enough to rip a major limb or tail off almost right away, so the victim would be maimed and doomed almost immediately, and unable to defend itself even if it had a face full of horns -- again, see my painting for my view on this.
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Post by Tyrannax on Sept 24, 2008 4:00:03 GMT
As for T.rex having a great sense of smell to prove the scavenger idea, well that's just silly. A highly-developed sense of smell is also very useful for detecting LIVE prey, an invaluable asset for a predator that had to lurk in wait for hours on end. Exactly, think you for agreeing with me. Also sbell, when I was researching T-Rex (I do so quite often), I read an article that does in fact imply that it wasn't as big as once thought. However, I didn't say he had massive olfactory cells, I simply said he had "good" olfactory cells, which he did. Also, my relative (who is a paleontologist) did say that scientists were wrong about that. So, yes, I agree with you, and, not knowing much about big cats, I apologize for comparing Tyrannosaurus to them. ;D Also, once again, i'm sorry about the aggressiveness when someone is being sarcastic about T-Rex! ;D Tyrannosaurus, like many large theropods, wasn't exactly a "speed demon". There are two strong beliefs. 1: That Tyrannosaurus couldn't go over 10 mph. 2: That he could hit speeds of 20 miles per hour. Both theories are worth debating and more scientific study, but, in my opinion, judging by his long legs (Not exactly long shins, but relatively long for his size) and hollow bones I believe he could hit 15- maybe 20 mph. In any case, Tyrannosaurus didn't need much speed, as his prey- Ananotitan, Ankylosaurus, Triceratops, etc, were even slower. He wasn't cut out for sneaking up on his prey, such as Allosaurus was, he simply ran them down and when he bit, he'd either kill the animal, or brake just about anything that came in between his jaws. His bite force was nearly 10 tons, that's 20,000 lbs per square inch!. If Tyrannosaurus was a scavenger, btw, why did animals of his time (Triceratopsa - Ankylosaurus) have such strong defense mechanisms?
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