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Post by bokisaurus on Jul 2, 2009 0:23:16 GMT
The entrants were as follows: 1. Lonely Stego- Pangolinmoth 2. Genesis-Vendian-Edicara Fauna ---- Stoneage 3. Triassic Mudflat----- Sbell 4. Cretaceous Hunt- Tomhet 5.Jurassic Chase- Cordylus Tropidosternum 6. Confrontation at a Dried-Up Jurassic Lakebed-- Meso-Cenozoic 7. Drama in early Cretaceous Africa - Jobaria versus Afrovenators -- Radman 8. The Permo-Triassic - Hyneria 9. On the lookout- Bjeast 10. Hunting Party – Pilkington 11. Clash of the Titans- Dinotoyforum 12. Extinction-- MightyJPTrex 13. Where there´s water, there is prey- Libraraptor 14. Fishing Friends- Ajax 15. Just Another Day at The Beach- Bokisaurus 16. Deadlock in the Gobi, the making of a famous fossil-- CrazyCrowMan 17. Cornered!- Tetonbabydoll GREAT JOB EVERYONE! ;D  Wow, some I figured out, but some are total surprise ;D |
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Post by bokisaurus on Jul 2, 2009 0:25:15 GMT
 I though #1 was CT's, because he did some black and white retro pictures before. Pangolinmoth you did very well, and thanks for appreciating a Non-Mesozoic Diorama! I though # 4 was Dinotoyforums because of the Marine connection. If I had one more vote I would have voted for this one. It's very good. I agree with Meso-Cenzoic in that I thought mine looked better full screen size. I voted for # 7. It's great and I loved the foilage in the background Number 8 is my absolute favorite. It has many smaller Dioramas,which make up one big Diorama. It looks like a science project with all the labels ect. It must of taken some time to put it all together. I'd really like to know how Hyneria created his plants etc. I thought #10 was Teton's. What are those figures? I can't believe that Dinotoyforum would use a Papo figure in his Diorama. Looks like something TTL would do. Ajax I thought yours was rather good. #14. Boki I liked yours but some of the Photoshop didn't work for me. However I don't agree with Teton that photoshop shouldn't be allowed. Dioramas are a creative process. Photoshop can help or hurt you. #16 Crazycrowman. Feathers weren't the problem for me. Unlike many people I don't care for the Primevil Raptor. I had no idea this was yours or that you even entered. I probably would have preferred the Bullyland Velociraptor. It's not to bad when positioned right. I did vote for your feathered Diorama that you did last time. All and all I think everybody did a good job. Don't get discouraged, try again. Hopefully we can do this again soon. Also I would like to know what anyone thinks I could do to improve my Diorama #2, except pick an other time period. I had thought about redoing it after I sent it in but decided that was it. I still thinking about redoing it.   This my original Diorama and another version that was defective. ;D Wow, I like the second one! Why did you not use it? The blue background really added so much to the scene! I love the simple composition. You should try and recreate the scene in your sig! That would be awesome! |
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Post by bokisaurus on Jul 2, 2009 0:27:12 GMT
I voted for Tomhet's, JPtrex's, and pilkington's Mine was #5-- And I worked darn hard on it too!  Really? I like it, but to be honest, I wish you saved your procyno diorama and used that instead! It's my favorite of yours. I like your composition, nice use of fading the background effect |
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Post by bokisaurus on Jul 2, 2009 0:28:45 GMT
 Yes, But i didn't think it was so terrible untill now. Maybe i should learn to photoshop and make better diorama's. I think your skills are fine Then again, other dios I have seen from you are way more dramatic than the one you entered. I agree with Tomhet Like CT, your other dios are very well composed. I still like yours, it was my 4th choice ;D I really love the way you and CT use reflection and fading in the background. ;D |
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Post by bokisaurus on Jul 2, 2009 0:31:42 GMT
Thanks to all who voted for my dio! I also included a backstory with it, which didn't get included, as I was probably the only person to do one. Any way her it is in all its gory glory: Early Cretaceous Central Africa: A young Jobaria has wandered off from the herd, lured by the ripening fruit of a clump of cycads. A trio of Afrovenators, forever following the herd and looking for stragglers, quickly surrounds the titan. The pack has hunted together before and has a tried and true strategy – while one hunter confronts the sauropod head on and distracts him, the other two attack his flanks, inflicting vicious wounds. The Jobaria calls desperately for the herd, but they have moved on; he is on his own. Soon, exhausted and weakened from injuries and loss of blood, he will eventually stumble and fall. The Afrovenator pack will feast for weeks, then, they will pick up the trail of another herd and continue the cycle. Next post, just for fun, I'll show some of the dios I made that didn't make the final cut! Nice to have a story  I voted for your BTW ;D Love those plants. Adding a story really help ;D Did you see mine in the Diorama section? The one with a decapitated WS Nigersaurus ;D |
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Jul 2, 2009 0:47:16 GMT
I don't want that, Boki. I am not upset at all abut the results of the voting. you followed the accepted and agreed upon rules fair and square, and the members voted for you, just as fairly. Don't feel bad. My feelings about it are more academic than anything, I was thinking towards perhaps the next contest. This one is done, and the rules had been set for some time, we all new going in about them.
I am not trying to single you out, and even IF they changed the results, I could not accept the prize.
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Post by Ajax on Jul 2, 2009 0:47:30 GMT
I don't think anyone thought you cheated or anything like that, But i agree with Teton that a different category may have been better, Thats all. Plus i voted for your diorama in the first contest and i knew it was photoshoped.
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jul 2, 2009 0:51:20 GMT
Unacceptable. Boki you more than deserve it fair and square.
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Jul 2, 2009 0:57:05 GMT
Agreed, the forum has spoken, and Boki won. That is all there is to it. That is not in any way a bad thing, as he will get a new figure not seen before, and take gorgeous pics of it for us to drool over, thus increasing malcolm's sales ten-fold...
Also, I am not criticizing this contest, as that debate happened and was resolved a while ago. I am thinking towards the next competition. Isat out much of the debate thinking i wasn't going to enter anyway, but i am feeling like I would like more input next time. Griping about the rules on this one is just...pointless.
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Post by Radman on Jul 2, 2009 1:14:21 GMT
I feel the same way as you about photoshop dio's. I picked out your dio straight away, also Boki's & Meso's because of his Invicta Diplo. How unfortunate that you all feel so strongly about Photoshop  I do appreciate those comments and thank those who voted for mine. However, I really feel like I'm singled out here You know, I worked so hard on my piece, like everyone else, for those who have used photoshop will agree that it's not easy to make. I have taken multiple pictures of each figure ( those reference alone are diorama itself) and used them to piece together the scene I have envisioned. By now, I think most of you already know my diorama style (un-photoshoped), just look at my threads and post. Seriously, I am excited by how many submitted and they are all very good, the best group I have ever seen! We all entered this contest knowing full well what the rules are and at our own accord. Really, why be bitter about the results? It was a fair vote, everyone picked their favorites. So why do I feel like some individuals feel like I "cheated" and don't deserve third place? Again, I am grateful for those of you who voted and appreciated my piece. Really guys, you ruined it for me I was excited to be third place, but now, after one bad sarcastic comments after another, I don't even know if I want it anymore. Not when there are members there who feel ( and are vocal about it) like my piece is not valid due to photoshop. No, I'm not being defensive here, I can take criticism of my work, really I do. It's when there is questioning of the result when voting is fairly conducted that I have a problem with. It was clear from the start what the rules were. I respect everyones opinion. You guys obviously did not vote for me  So, I have made the tough decision to give up my third place So # 9 and # 17 can now claim that spot. I hope that this would satisfy everyone who felt so strongly about the use of photoshop. Sorry, all of this just left a really bad taste in my mouth and ruined it all for me. The excitment I had yesterday is now gone. And no, I'm not mad at all, I just don't want to hear anymore complaints about my use of photoshop So Adam and Malcolm, unless you guys have any objection, please adjust the winners. I will gladly take the 4th place Dude, don't be upset, you won fair and square! I photoshopped my final pic, seamlines. paint splotches, pins holding up figs (my trees kept falling over). I thought your dio was cool! |
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Post by bucketfoot on Jul 2, 2009 2:13:35 GMT
How unfortunate that you all feel so strongly about Photoshop I do appreciate those comments and thank those who voted for mine. However, I really feel like I'm singled out here You know, I worked so hard on my piece, like everyone else, for those who have used photoshop will agree that it's not easy to make. I have taken multiple pictures of each figure ( those reference alone are diorama itself) and used them to piece together the scene I have envisioned. By now, I think most of you already know my diorama style (un-photoshoped), just look at my threads and post. Seriously, I am excited by how many submitted and they are all very good, the best group I have ever seen! We all entered this contest knowing full well what the rules are and at our own accord. Really, why be bitter about the results? It was a fair vote, everyone picked their favorites. So why do I feel like some individuals feel like I "cheated" and don't deserve third place? Again, I am grateful for those of you who voted and appreciated my piece. Really guys, you ruined it for me I was excited to be third place, but now, after one bad sarcastic comments after another, I don't even know if I want it anymore. Not when there are members there who feel ( and are vocal about it) like my piece is not valid due to photoshop. No, I'm not being defensive here, I can take criticism of my work, really I do. It's when there is questioning of the result when voting is fairly conducted that I have a problem with. It was clear from the start what the rules were. I respect everyones opinion. You guys obviously did not vote for me So, I have made the tough decision to give up my third place So # 9 and # 17 can now claim that spot. I hope that this would satisfy everyone who felt so strongly about the use of photoshop. Sorry, all of this just left a really bad taste in my mouth and ruined it all for me. The excitment I had yesterday is now gone. And no, I'm not mad at all, I just don't want to hear anymore complaints about my use of photoshop So Adam and Malcolm, unless you guys have any objection, please adjust the winners. I will gladly take the 4th place Boki, as President Richard M. Nixon once wrote privately to Ted Kennedy after Chapaquiddick: "Don't let the B******S get you down." In point of fact, it takes a whole LOT MORE TIME to photoshop a dio than to just line up a few lame figures and try to make them look realistic. I think there is a little jealousy going on here myself. I thought your diorama was pretty well done. The Mosasaur in the background was a nice touch, but for me there were too many Pterosaurs and that detracted from the uniqueness of the piece a little bit. Nice attempt to match the lighting on the critters with the sun on the photo. I did a few photoshop dios awhile back and was surprised at how long it took to do! |
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Jul 2, 2009 2:27:23 GMT
A time involved was not my point
B I am not jealous. I am perfectly happy with our group's results, as I keep saying. I have already begged Boki's forgiveness private and publicly. I did not enter the dang thing to win, just to see what would happen. Sheesh.
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Post by stoneage on Jul 2, 2009 2:44:02 GMT
 I'm sorry you got your feelings hurt Boki. Imagine how you would feel if you only got 1, 2, or 3 votes like me. I made the Diorama I wanted to make. Sure I could have made some Mesozoic scene and done better. But I wanted to do what I wanted to do. Sure it would be nice if it appealed to someone else. But I didn't start collecting Dinosaurs for anyone but me. If you look at the top Dioramas the only one I can tell is photoshopped is yours. Possibly Tomhet's is, although I think you could get the same general effect without it. I agree with Bucketfoot that maybe all those Pterosaurs off in the distance were too much. The ones close by were cool. Overall it is one of the better Dioramas and I wasn't trying to tear it down, just trying to figure out why I liked a few better. Teton's was also good. I mean how can you miss with the figures he used. If you had exchanged Papo for Marx, then if wouldn't have been cool at all. Teton I think you have to realize that if we have catagories for different things then you dilute the Dioramas as a whole. I believe only a few people used photoshop and it is an art form. I personally prefer 3 D Dioramas but then I don't know how to photoshop. I hope you will reconsider not participating in the future. Your a very creative person so create. Remember there are several people here that still haven't gotten any positive responses. Everybody kiss and makeup. 
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Jul 2, 2009 2:47:23 GMT
All I said was I thought there could be two categories in the future. I don't know how exactly this can be misconstrued, but I,m done. I will never enter another contest in this forum. Nor will I ever just feel free to speak my mind. I am also getting a bad tase from this, and now more ashamed to have been part of it than anything. I do not want to be runner up. I do not want my name or diorama mentioned in the blog. I want nothing more to do with any of this. I knew entering or taking an interest was a huge mistake, and I have pretty much been proven right, so me and my jealous lame ass figures will bother you no more.
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Post by Radman on Jul 2, 2009 3:05:57 GMT
Wow. lotta controversy!!
I'll post my "Didn't quite make the cut" pix this weekend. Have a good (U.S.) holiday everyone and we'll see you after the break!
C
PS: Go Roger!
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Post by tomhet on Jul 2, 2009 3:17:43 GMT
Stoneage, I voted for yours  Long live Ediacara! ;D |
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Post by bokisaurus on Jul 2, 2009 3:22:27 GMT
All I said was I thought there could be two categories in the future. I don't know how exactly this can be misconstrued, but I,m done. I will never enter another contest in this forum. Nor will I ever just feel free to speak my mind. I am also getting a bad tase from this, and now more ashamed to have been part of it than anything. I do not want to be runner up. I do not want my name or diorama mentioned in the blog. I want nothing more to do with any of this. I knew entering or taking an interest was a huge mistake, and I have pretty much been proven right, so me and my jealous lame ass figures will bother you no more.  Ok, I think we all need to chill out now, Ok? I'm sure you don't mean what you just wrote. OMG now I regret posting that one! Ok, let's not be too critical now. I know it may not sound like it, but I'm fine, really. The last thing I wanted was to have exactly this happening! Ok, if it resolves things, I will eat my words, delete that post, and take my place as the third prize winner PROUDLY! ;D ;D So, please, no more hurting words, lets all enjoy our HUGE accomplishments! We should all be happy, ok? ;D Nothing hurts me more than having and seeing us tear each other apart We are a very unique community and in many ways, like family. We bicker, we disagree on many things, but in the end we all support and respect each other I hope everyone can forgive me for causing this "ripple" |
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Post by bokisaurus on Jul 2, 2009 3:24:02 GMT
Wow. lotta controversy!! I'll post my "Didn't quite make the cut" pix this weekend. Have a good (U.S.) holiday everyone and we'll see you after the break! C PS: Go Roger! Please do! I would love to see them all! I did the same things ;D Cheers1 ;D |
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Jul 2, 2009 3:30:48 GMT
Sorry, I'm a little sensitive too. I just wanted you to know that I could never let you back off and give up the prize yu have rightly earned. I thought they were all very interesting dios, as I said before. Lots of variety, which is good. We got to see some different figures in some interesting settings, so YAY us.
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Post by tomhet on Jul 2, 2009 3:48:02 GMT
Kevin, I am actually very surprised to see your reaction, you knew Photoshop was allowed and you agreed to this Now I'm going to be honest about this: a good dio is not about who Photoshops what, I think digital editing is a matter of style (I do it all the time because I like the results) but in no way it helps in a direct way. I have always said it, the most important thing about doing a diorama is taking a good picture, no program will match the skills of a good photographer. Diorama number 10 is a good example, maybe it was photoshopped but you can do the same with just a good camera. What about boki's pic of the Postosuchus pair? It was magnificent and all because of the interesting angle. And skills can be compensated by inventiveness, just look at diorama number 8, the only disadvantage was the poor pic but that guy created a small world in there. Bjeast's On the Lookout is probably the most professional looking, the most classy dio and he didn't use any program as far as I'm concerned. |
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Wow, some I figured out, but some are total surprise ;D
I though #1 was CT's, because he did some black and white retro pictures before. Pangolinmoth you did very well, and thanks for appreciating a Non-Mesozoic Diorama!![[][][]cordylus[][][] Avatar](http://files.sharenator.com/Troll_Face_U_MAD_RE_wrestling_1-s407x405-126802.jpg)
Yes, But i didn't think it was so terrible untill now. 
I voted for your BTW ;D Love those plants.
I do appreciate those comments and thank those who voted for mine. However, I really feel like I'm singled out here 
I'm sorry you got your feelings hurt Boki. Imagine how you would feel if you only got 1, 2, or 3 votes like me. I made the Diorama I wanted to make. Sure I could have made some Mesozoic scene and done better. But I wanted to do what I wanted to do. Sure it would be nice if it appealed to someone else. But I didn't start collecting Dinosaurs for anyone but me.
Long live Ediacara! ;D
Ok, I think we all need to chill out now, Ok? I'm sure you don't mean what you just wrote.