Griffin Art- 3/8/12 Microraptor

[bucketfoot]

Dec 13, 2009 20:31:27 GMT Horridus said:

Another thought - the Giraffatitan really reminds me of Greg Paul's work. He tends to draw them slimmer than other people.

OK. Brachiosaurus Altirhorax from N. America and the Brachiosaurid Sauroposeidon still exist.

Giraffititan is a relative (but a separate enough species to merit its own name) originally classified as a Brachiosaur.

So Brachiosaurus does survive. HOORAY!!!

[Griffin]

Ok here are three more I did today. Enjoy.

Ankylosaurus


Ceratosaurus, sorry I just love the JP diecast figure's colors!


Gorgonops, I took a more mammalian approach.
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[bokisaurus]

Dec 13, 2009 20:11:49 GMT Griffin said:

Thanks everyone for the kind words. Yeah, Cordy I made sure to put tiny beady eyes on the rex and it did end up with a sort of cute dopey look haha. And boki I never really considered submitting it to prehistoric times. Honestly I was never a subscriber. Maybe I'll look into it. I'll put up more soon.

You should, it would be fun to see your illustrations published on a magazine for dinosaur fans like us! ;D Give it a look, hopefully you will consider it....

LOl! Funny that you put a bird on your trike ;D I have always liked birds/pterosaurs perched on big dinos... I actually made small sculpey birds to perch on my sauropods ;D I should take a photo of them

[Libraraptor]

Your Gorgonops is very, very cool, Griffin! I love the mammalian approach and it´s starved look. Permian life was no walk in a park, that´s for sure ;D

[Horridus]

Dec 14, 2009 3:24:30 GMT @bucketfoot said:

OK. Brachiosaurus Altirhorax from N. America and the Brachiosaurid Sauroposeidon still exist.

Giraffititan is a relative (but a separate enough species to merit its own name) originally classified as a Brachiosaur.

So Brachiosaurus does survive. HOORAY!!!

Giraffatitan brancai was originally Brachiosaurus brancai - but is now thought of as different enough to warrant its own genus. But it is still a brachiosaur (member of Brachiosauridae - as is Sauroposeidon). Since Brachiosaurus altithorax was the type species of Brachiosaurus, Brachiosaurus does indeed survive as a valid name.

Whew. Nice drawings as ever Griffin! Like the 'eyespots' on Ankylosaurus.

[sbell]

Dec 14, 2009 16:49:14 GMT Horridus said:

Dec 14, 2009 3:24:30 GMT @bucketfoot said:

OK. Brachiosaurus Altirhorax from N. America and the Brachiosaurid Sauroposeidon still exist.

Giraffititan is a relative (but a separate enough species to merit its own name) originally classified as a Brachiosaur.

So Brachiosaurus does survive. HOORAY!!!

Giraffatitan brancai was originally Brachiosaurus brancai - but is now thought of as different enough to warrant its own genus. But it is still a brachiosaur (member of Brachiosauridae - as is Sauroposeidon). Since Brachiosaurus altithorax was the type species of Brachiosaurus, Brachiosaurus does indeed survive as a valid name.

Whew. Nice drawings as ever Griffin! Like the 'eyespots' on Ankylosaurus.

The main issue is that the skull of G. brancai (=B. brancai) is the African species and is the one that has the typical high dome; the North American Brachiosaurus altithorax has a much lower skull vault (apparently), but the material that has been found was not as good.

So in most instances, the figure that has been produced is based on the African material, which is now properly Giraffatitan. If the name is bothersome, just call them all brachiosaurs.

[Horridus]

Yeah, Giraffatitan is the much better known animal, and because it was much easier to reconstruct it became "Brachiosaurus" in popular culture. B. altithorax is hardly ever shown in paleoart (I'll stick an example in from Wikipedia in below - it's the only one I've ever seen - anyone got any more?). As you say many believe it to have had a camarasaur-like skull, the one assigned to "Brachiosaurus sp." some years ago. B. altithorax was also more robust and differently proportioned.

[[][][]cordylus[][][]]

God "giraffatitan" is such a terrible name. It's like no thought was put into it at all.

[Horridus]

Dec 14, 2009 19:24:10 GMT [][][]cordylus[][][] said:

God "giraffatitan" is such a terrible name. It's like no thought was put into it at all.

Yeah, but what're you gonna do...Greg Paul's great but names aren't his strong point.

[[][][]cordylus[][][]]

I'm gonna keep calling it "brachiosaurus", that's what I'm gonna do! ;D

Considering all the models of "giraffatitan" are labeled brachiosaurus, I think it's Ok to keep calling them that.

[Horridus]

Dec 14, 2009 19:53:59 GMT [][][]cordylus[][][] said:

I'm gonna keep calling it "brachiosaurus", that's what I'm gonna do! ;D

But it's not Brachiosaurus...you can't just call things what you like you know. I mean, Raptorex is a rubbish name, but that doesn't give us the right to call it Cordyloraptor instead. Or something. Bah, what's the use

[Griffin]

Dec 14, 2009 20:35:08 GMT Horridus said:

Dec 14, 2009 19:53:59 GMT [][][]cordylus[][][] said:

I'm gonna keep calling it "brachiosaurus", that's what I'm gonna do! ;D

But it's not Brachiosaurus...you can't just call things what you like you know. I mean, Raptorex is a rubbish name, but that doesn't give us the right to call it Cordyloraptor instead. Or something. Bah, what's the use

Give it time. When they start actually labeling it as Giraffititan or whatever in books and on models then more people will come around. I labeled my drawing as brachiosaurus mainly because its what i identify it as and I was still fuzzy about what distinguishes the two. I know now cuz of your post though.

[Horridus]

I've got a book by Darren Naish that names it as such. Viva la badly-named revolution!

[Griffin]

In other news. Here's three more!

Acrocanthosaurus


Deinonychus


Iguanodon

[Horridus]

Great Deinonychus. I love the feathers dropping to the floor as it bolts away, another nice touch!

[bucketfoot]

Dang. Those are some nice sketches Griffin!! A+++

[Dan]

Awesome patterns on that Acro. I think the Iguanodon is my fave of the three, though.

[Griffin]

Thanks guys! I'll see if I'll have some more to put up tomorrow.

[sid]

Kickass drawings as usual, Griff!

[EmperorDinobot]

good stuff man, good stuff.