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Post by Libraraptor on Sept 4, 2009 21:40:46 GMT
I´m aware of the fact this thread will not be read that often. Yet I want to hint at a critical aspect of our hobby: Phthalates. It is said these industrially produced diluents are highly concentrated in toys and can cause infertility or even cancer. They have the same effect as hormones, they come into your body over the mouth or the skin. We as dinosaur toy collectors are in touch with rubber nearly every day, so we belong to a risk group, don´t we. And looking at my baby chewing at some Schleich dino- tail, I can´t help but getting a bad feeling.   So what do you think? |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Sept 4, 2009 22:25:29 GMT
I think he should be chewing on a bullyland or safari dino tail...  I think you should just not totally rub them all over you or eat them and you'll probably be fine. |
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Post by Dan on Sept 4, 2009 22:27:48 GMT
I believe many companies, such as Safari, produce products that are phthalate free. That being said, under no circumstances would I allow a teething child to put one in their mouth. They're not really intended for the super-young kids anyway, correct?
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Sept 4, 2009 22:29:33 GMT
Three and older  |
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Post by sbell on Sept 4, 2009 22:30:10 GMT
I think you should get rid of the Schleichs. Bully and Safari are all phthalate free.
As for the possibility of problems, it likely comes down to concentrations--how much is actually going to be ingested? For most of us collectors, I doubt there will be any impact at all (stop licking your Battats and Papos, people).
For a child...well, the tags do say they are not for children age 0-3. So take it away from your baby!
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Post by stoneage on Sept 4, 2009 23:36:37 GMT
I´m aware of the fact this thread will not be read that often. Yet I want to hint at a critical aspect of our hobby: Phthalates. It is said these industrially produced diluents are highly concentrated in toys and can cause infertility or even cancer. They have the same effect as hormones, they come into your body over the mouth or the skin. We as dinosaur toy collectors are in touch with rubber nearly every day, so we belong to a risk group, don´t we. And looking at my baby chewing at some Schleich dino- tail, I can´t help but getting a bad feeling. So what do you think?  Look I chewed on some Marx Brontosaurus tail and Nabisco Smilodon tail when I was a kid and I'm perfectly fine. No problems here!  |
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Post by tomhet on Sept 4, 2009 23:40:29 GMT
Well, listening to Frank Zappa can't be considered perfectly normal ;D
j/k
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Post by stoneage on Sept 5, 2009 0:00:37 GMT
Well, listening to Frank Zappa can't be considered perfectly normal ;D j/k ;D Well it wasn't just Zappa, It was: Captain Beefheart, Captain Beyond, Alice Cooper, H.P. Lovecraft, Fugs, Wild Man Fischer, Peanut Butter Conspiracy, and too many others to mention. ;D |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Sept 5, 2009 0:13:25 GMT
Stoneage, marx dinos were all hard plastic that wasn't softened. Phthalates are used to soften plastic..
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Post by stoneage on Sept 5, 2009 1:22:08 GMT
Stoneage, marx dinos were all hard plastic that wasn't softened. Phthalates are used to soften plastic.. CT Marx Dinosaurs are a soft lead based thermoplastic. That is to some degree toxic. Shortly after Marx playset #3398 was made it is believed the U.S. government mandated that the lead pigment be removed from the paints in the Marx plastic, which would result in an inferior plastic. At any rate Marx mysteriously dropped out of the dinosaur production business, and no new prehistoric playsets were made from 1964 to 1971. However they did sell pre-1963 production pieces until at least 1966-1967. Marx did begin reproducing dinosaurs and prehistoric sets in 1971. But the plastic was different. Gone was the lead pigment. In its place was an inferior waxy type of plastic. ;D |
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Post by sid on Sept 5, 2009 17:38:14 GMT
I don't think we are in a "danger group", as Libra said... I mean, it's not that we (and/or our children) chew or lick our dinos on a daily basis, right?
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Post by stoneage on Sept 5, 2009 21:52:32 GMT
I don't think we are in a "danger group", as Libra said... I mean, it's not that we (and/or our children) chew or lick our dinos on a daily basis, right? ;D I wouldn't be too sure! ;D |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Sept 5, 2009 22:53:58 GMT
Gee, I should probably stop using marx plateosaurs to marinade my meat with.... |
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Post by deanm on Sept 6, 2009 3:51:26 GMT
Sorry Cordy, it's already too late for you...  B'sides only ROM figures give a fine northern maple bbq flavor to any meat... ;D |
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Post by Libraraptor on Sept 6, 2009 16:22:10 GMT
Cooking with dinosaurs? ;D
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Post by deanm on Sept 6, 2009 17:33:27 GMT
Phthalates are a serious issue under some circumstances (aka chewing, ingesting, sucking, licking, etc your phthalate containing dinosaurs) but by and large I agree with many of the posters above - don't do that! Buy the right toys for your kids that don't contain them. Other things to consider is that we all now test positive for DDT (yes even you organic only types too - albiet less), we cannot be properly Carbon 14 aged becuase of enrichment from above ground nuclear tests, and the list goes on. Recently I was reading an article in the paper about how diet sweetners are now showing up in the ecosystems.
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Post by sid on Sept 6, 2009 18:05:07 GMT
I don't think we are in a "danger group", as Libra said... I mean, it's not that we (and/or our children) chew or lick our dinos on a daily basis, right? ;D I wouldn't be too sure! ;D  ;D |
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Look I chewed on some Marx Brontosaurus tail and Nabisco Smilodon tail when I was a kid and I'm perfectly fine. No problems here! 
