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Post by foxilized on Oct 18, 2009 11:09:06 GMT
Uhm... I have the "Making of" book of the first movie right here and instead it says that Spielberg and Horner PUSHED Stan Winston and his team to make dinos the most accurate possible Oh, c'mon, either way they kick ass, no doubt about that ;D I am pretty sure that was propaganda, it surely sold. "We are making the most realistic dinosaurs ever. This movie will be loved either by sci-fi fans and scientifics. Paleontologist dream come true!!!" and stuff. And It did work. The other day I was listening to an 1993 old radio interview with a spanish paleontologist who had written a book about the story of dinos and the annoying interviewer was only asking thinks to him about Jurassic Park. The paleontologist admited he loved the movie and really had found every dino absolutely accurate (but the size of the raptor and the dilo, and the poison and so...). Only that. Very generic opinion, for a paleontologist, I thought. So, if he actually didn't see any other inaccuracy, probably these weren't too obvious. That, or the dinos were actually so impressive it didn't really mattered. I opt for this last option. Maybe today it's easier to find the inacuracies. Which I am sure existed (and I am absolutely sure Winston exagerated and modified the "stars" of the movie for effect purposes. And I am totally sure Spielberg told him to do it. Other different thing is what they want to sell, but it's not a surprise to find publicity has a big percentage of Lies, isn't it). All that, declaring that I am a HUGE fan of the JP saga and dino designs.
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Post by sid on Oct 18, 2009 13:17:38 GMT
Yeah, i tend to agree with it Then again, except for the more evident "artistic liberties" they add to the dinos (Dilo's frill for example) all the other alleged inaccuracies are not so big or detrimental to an overall realistic portrait as some people here tend to think, plus it's a movie not a friggin' documentary. And speakin' about that, for example, the WWD Rex is way, WAY more inaccurate than the JP counterpart; at least the JP Rex head is based on real skulls while the head of the poor WWD Rex is, well, a mess ;D
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Post by Horridus on Oct 18, 2009 13:50:28 GMT
The JP rex head is mostly right, but a little bit off. Compare the skull of AMNH5027 ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tyrannoskull.jpg) with any photo you like of the JP rex. The shape of the jaws near the back of the skull seems a bit off, most obviously, and the antorbital fenestra doesn't look quite right. Of course this isn't to mention the much-loved/hated 'pyramid' osteoderms over the eyes! As you say though, it's a fiction movie, not a friggin' documentary!
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Post by sid on Oct 18, 2009 16:08:35 GMT
The JP rex head is mostly right, but a little bit off. Compare the skull of AMNH5027 ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tyrannoskull.jpg) with any photo you like of the JP rex. The shape of the jaws near the back of the skull seems a bit off, most obviously, and the antorbital fenestra doesn't look quite right. Of course this isn't to mention the much-loved/hated 'pyramid' osteoderms over the eyes! As you say though, it's a fiction movie, not a friggin' documentary! Yeah, the only thing that REALLY doesn't looks quite right is indeed the anteorbital fenestra... The problem is, in the JP Rex head, the ridge which surrounds the back of the skull suddenly goes down thus lowering the height of the anteorbital fenestra which, in the real skulls, is slightly taller... We're talking of mere inches, bear in mind, but still... Other than that, the head, as long as the rest of his body (except for the arms) is spot on.
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Post by Horridus on Oct 18, 2009 16:16:29 GMT
Other than that, the head, as long as the rest of his body (except for the arms) is spot on. I'm told that the feet are too large, but I've never looked at JP that closely... The JP dinosaurs in general seem to have exceedingly swishy tails, but then that's a dino-movie tradition. Can't do without that... Anyway, enough JP! We're meant to be talking about the Baldiraptor!
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Oct 18, 2009 16:20:40 GMT
And does this baldiraptor's tail seem a little too short?
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Post by Horridus on Oct 18, 2009 16:27:03 GMT
And does this baldiraptor's tail seem a little too short? It does a bit, but then I don't know how much of Oviraptor's tail has actually been found. Or how much of Citipati's, which is probably what this model is actually based on.
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Post by sid on Oct 18, 2009 16:27:26 GMT
Anyway, enough JP! We're meant to be talking about the Baldiraptor! That's right! "Baldiraptor"... Funny name ;D
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Post by dinodinkies on Oct 19, 2009 22:05:12 GMT
I hope Papo will do a compsognathus, Dracorex, Stymoloch, Dilophosaurus, and Archeopteryx. And many others . But first the retroviraptor stealing some eggs.
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Post by Griffin on Oct 20, 2009 0:28:44 GMT
haha retroviraptor! Great name!
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Oct 20, 2009 0:31:53 GMT
They're twins! Btu seriously-- They really do look like each other..
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Post by dinodinkies on Oct 20, 2009 14:55:08 GMT
They're twins! Btu seriously-- They really do look like each other.. Yes they indeed do look alike. Only this version looks like it is basketballing with its egg. Although i am curious if they could pick up things like that. With one single hand. Or if they picked up objects with both of their hands.
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Post by Horridus on Oct 20, 2009 15:07:09 GMT
Given that the forearm couldn't even rotate that way, I don't think the 'basketball' thing would've been a possibility...
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Post by franchesca on Oct 20, 2009 15:41:12 GMT
you could customize it into a Toronto raptor
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Post by dinodinkies on Oct 20, 2009 15:45:46 GMT
you could customize it into a Toronto raptor LOL yes indeed hahaha. I know that logo. When i was small i saw this logo in a cap. And although i don't like basketball. I loved the logo. And bought it anyway.
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Post by Libraraptor on Oct 22, 2009 19:46:45 GMT
^^ Resemblance thread!
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Post by Meso-Cenozoic on Oct 24, 2009 8:08:04 GMT
I like him overall. He still has the Papo details! Look at the close-up shots of his head and feet... Someone asked about his size. On that site where it was found, it says he's 11.5cm long and 8.2cm tall (4.5" long and 3.2" tall). So, a little bit smaller than their Pachy. Can't wait to see what else is in store from them!
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Post by sid on Oct 24, 2009 11:42:43 GMT
Mmh... It's not too bad afterall, now that i look at the details.
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Oct 24, 2009 13:38:05 GMT
Saw pics of it at Jptoys. The paint job is much better than in the photos here. HOwever it uses the egg as a crutch
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Post by sid on Oct 24, 2009 13:58:51 GMT
Saw pics of it at Jptoys. The paint job is much better than in the photos here. HOwever it uses the egg as a crutch I saw the pics you mentioned, and i agree... Much, much better than the catalogue pic
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