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Post by stoneage on Apr 13, 2011 23:47:16 GMT
Ah, I hate you for your diplo... And pachy. Is that rex v3? I would love to know why they redid the entire rex for v3, instead of just bending the tail down on the v1 rex. No the rex is the original version. No snowshoes, no tail hanging down. It will stand but sometimes it can be tricky. I used to keep it on top of my fish tank with a dime under one foot.
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Post by Seijun on Apr 13, 2011 23:50:38 GMT
Ok, thanks. The head looks very 3-ish for some reason. Edit: You sure? The feet are close together, the arms are not tucked in, the top of the snout is slightly flattened, and the tail doesn't appear to have lateral waves in it. V1 looks exactly like v2 minus snowshoes v2 rubberdinosaurs.org/b-tyranno2.jpgv3 rubberdinosaurs.org/b-tyranno3.jpg
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Post by stoneage on Apr 14, 2011 1:10:17 GMT
Ok, thanks. The head looks very 3-ish for some reason. Edit: You sure? The feet are close together, the arms are not tucked in, the top of the snout is slightly flattened, and the tail doesn't appear to have lateral waves in it. V1 looks exactly like v2 minus snowshoes v2 rubberdinosaurs.org/b-tyranno2.jpgv3 rubberdinosaurs.org/b-tyranno3.jpg For some reason your links didn't work for me. There were 3 version. Look at this link. On the left is the oringinal. It has no snowshoes and the tail isn't touching the ground. The one in the middle difinitely has snow shoes. The one on the right has the tail touching the ground much like the newer carnigie theropods. As far as I know those are the only three version there are. The way the head and legs look may be the angle of the camera. www.dinosaurcollector.150m.com/battat.htm
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Post by Horridus on Apr 14, 2011 1:16:23 GMT
Seijun was trying to link to this site. rubberdinosaurs.org/battat-pg1.htmIt's hard to tell but it looks to me like you have the first one. I think a picture that included the tail tip would settle it.
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Post by Seijun on Apr 14, 2011 1:17:54 GMT
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Post by stoneage on Apr 14, 2011 1:41:28 GMT
;D He doesn't have a picture of the first one with the tail in the air, because he never had one. The snow shoes were quickly rushed out because of complaints that the first one had trouble standing. The first one is the best and the rarest.
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Post by Seijun on Apr 14, 2011 1:56:28 GMT
The first and second ones were identical though, to my understanding, with the snowshoes being their only difference (so a picture of the first and second ones will be the same except the feet). For the third rex they resculpted the entire thing, not only changing the tail but also slimming down the head and neck, and changing the stance of the back legs. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
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Post by Horridus on Apr 14, 2011 2:06:47 GMT
Seijun, from what I've heard you're right and it was a significant resculpt, but still looked quite similar to the old one. I think a good analogy would be the Carnegie "Brachiosaurus".
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Post by stoneage on Apr 14, 2011 2:24:06 GMT
The first and second ones were identical though, to my understanding, with the snowshoes being their only difference (so a picture of the first and second ones will be the same except the feet). For the third rex they resculpted the entire thing, not only changing the tail but also slimming down the head and neck, and changing the stance of the back legs. Someone correct me if I am wrong. My rex is the first pressing from the original mold. It's one of a kind!
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Post by Seijun on Apr 14, 2011 5:42:22 GMT
Here are some comparison shots of my v2 and v3 rexes. My v3 can stand without the aid of his tail on some surfaces. v2 on the left, 3 on the right. Here is a decent shot of v1, not mine I think probably the easiest way to tell v1 from 3 is the right hind foot,. On v1 only the tips of the toes touch ground but on v3 the foot is completely flat. v2 on the bottom, 3 on the top. v2 on the left, 3 on the right. v2, and presumably 1, have extremely fat necks! more here: s887.photobucket.com/albums/ac72/Seijun/Misc/Dinosaurs/Battat%20Rex%20Comparison/
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Post by simon on Apr 14, 2011 5:56:22 GMT
Here are some comparison shots of my v2 and v3 rexes. My v3 can stand without the aid of his tail on some surfaces. I think probably the easiest way to tell v1 from 3 is the right hind foot,. On v1 only the front of the toes touch ground but on v3 the foot is completely flat. V1 and V2 are the exact same mould except that V2 has 'snowshoes' on its feet. Neither version can stand up very well. V3 is a completely different sculpt. Its much slimmer as you can see in your photos. I have always said that V1 and V2 are the larger female, while V3 is the more gracile male of the species. I have both V1 and V3. I never got the V2 because the snowshoes looked bad, plus it was the same sculpt as V1. A short clear plastic stick will keep the first 2 versions upright if placed at the chest area.
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Post by Seijun on Apr 14, 2011 5:58:18 GMT
I got lucky, my v2 has no trouble standing.
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Post by simon on Apr 14, 2011 6:00:23 GMT
The first and second ones were identical though, to my understanding, with the snowshoes being their only difference (so a picture of the first and second ones will be the same except the feet). For the third rex they resculpted the entire thing, not only changing the tail but also slimming down the head and neck, and changing the stance of the back legs. Someone correct me if I am wrong. Oops - I should have found your post before essentially repeating it above! You are, of course, 100% right. Both sculpts are excellent, which makes owning one of each a must.
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Post by Seijun on Apr 14, 2011 6:03:04 GMT
I never thought of it as a male female pair, but now that you mention that, it is a perfect explanation. Someday I will own the elusive v1, but for now my v2 will have to do Stoneage, do you have any minis? I have been craving mini pics. There seem to be hardly any around the net.
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Post by simon on Apr 14, 2011 6:05:20 GMT
I never thought of it as a male female pair, but now that you mention that, it is a perfect explanation. Someday I will own the elusive v1, but for now my v2 will have to do Yeah, I only got my V1 about 6 years ago from a collector I know who was 'cleaning house'. Its the rarest of the big Battat TRexes (the mini TRex being THE rarest of all Battats) because I believe it was only produced for a short time due to its tendency to fall down.
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Post by Seijun on Apr 14, 2011 6:11:49 GMT
According to rubberdinos, each one was produced for two years. V1 certainly seem much rarer than the others though. Maybe because they are all safely tucked away in collectors homes.
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Post by simon on Apr 14, 2011 6:19:23 GMT
According to rubberdinos, each one was produced for two years. V1 certainly seem much rarer than the others though. Maybe because they are all safely tucked away in collectors homes. From my observations, I would bet that V2 snowshoe version had the greatest number of pieces produced, followed by V3, and last by V1. Watching the numbers of each available on ebay over the years and remembering when they were actually still being sold 10+ years ago, the pattern seemed to be the same.
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Post by stoneage on Apr 14, 2011 13:13:41 GMT
Here are some comparison shots of my v2 and v3 rexes. My v3 can stand without the aid of his tail on some surfaces. v2 on the left, 3 on the right. Here is a decent shot of v1, not mine I think probably the easiest way to tell v1 from 3 is the right hind foot,. On v1 only the tips of the toes touch ground but on v3 the foot is completely flat. v2 on the bottom, 3 on the top. v2 on the left, 3 on the right. v2, and presumably 1, have extremely fat necks! more here: s887.photobucket.com/albums/ac72/Seijun/Misc/Dinosaurs/Battat%20Rex%20Comparison/Well their seems to be some variation. On your V2 picture it shows a clenched hand but on the dinosaur collector link I showed above the v2 has an open hand like mine and v3. My head and posture is more like the v2 and nothing like the v3. My rex will stand but not on it's tail. Also notice that the nose is closer to the ground then the tail. It's leaning way over. It also has no snowshoes. I also showed the Dilophosaurus and it has no snowshoe. I bought all of these at one time from one source. I don't have any of the minis and wasn't really aware of them until long after I bought my Battats. They are probably harder to find then the larger Battats.
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Post by Seijun on Apr 14, 2011 18:03:49 GMT
The one on the dinosaurcollector site does have the arms tucked in, though you are right, the hands are not as clenched. Because of the way plastic toys are made, and the material, there is often a small level of variation in the precise position of small thin parts, like arms, fingers, tails, and legs.
I believe yours is most likely a v3 because both hind feet are completely forward and completely flat. One v1 the feet are nowhere near flat, and I don't think any amount of mold variation could have brought the entire leg forward, and flattened the foot so perfectly, without seriously warping other parts of the figure.
There are also the teeth, which are more or less uniform on v1 and 2. On v3, the first two teeth (top jaw, right side) are small, followed by a noticeably larger tooth, followed by a small tooth, followed by another large one, which is the same sequence yours has. Some other small details pop out as well, like the pink flesh connecting the jaws. On v1 and 2 the flesh is far back on the jaws, but on v3 is it is far forward. Possibly yours is a v3 with the ankles warped, tilting the entire figure forward and lifting the tail of the ground?
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Post by stoneage on Apr 14, 2011 18:41:20 GMT
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