Identification thread

[roselaar]

Could someone please identify the green Rex (third row, between Anchiceratops and Plateosaurus) and lizard like animal (first row, between Ceratosaurus and Arsinoitherium) in this Kaiyodo lot?

[sbell]

Jun 8, 2011 16:46:15 GMT roselaar said:

Could someone please identify the green Rex (third row, between Anchiceratops and Plateosaurus) and lizard like animal (first row, between Ceratosaurus and Arsinoitherium) in this Kaiyodo lot?

The green T.rex is one of three paint versions of the special/chase figure from Dinotales Series 3 (the others are brown and red). The lizard-like animal is the chase figure Tuatara from the Dinotales Series 2.

[roselaar]

Thanks for the info! What's a 'chase figure' though? Dinosaurcollector makes no mention of these... (proving its incompleteness).

Also, my Tarbosaurus (pictured above) has a different paint job. Standard variation or special premium figure?

[sbell]

Jun 8, 2011 17:44:08 GMT roselaar said:

Thanks for the info! What's a 'chase figure' though? Dinosaurcollector makes no mention of these... (proving its incompleteness).

Also, my Tarbosaurus (pictured above) has a different paint job. Standard variation or special premium figure?

Chase figures are less common figures in the set--so there are far fewer of them to be found relative to the other, regular figures (the proportions vary though).

And yes, the white Tarbosaurus is the Dinotales Series 4 Chase figure.

And your Siamotyrannus? That's a Dinotales Series 1 version 2 chase figure.

They are also referred to as 'secret' figures--you know they exist, but often the info cards/papers didn't picture them (now, they are often depicted in silhouette on a paper, depending on the company).

[roselaar]

Jun 8, 2011 17:51:53 GMT sbell said:

Jun 8, 2011 17:44:08 GMT roselaar said:

Thanks for the info! What's a 'chase figure' though? Dinosaurcollector makes no mention of these... (proving its incompleteness).

Also, my Tarbosaurus (pictured above) has a different paint job. Standard variation or special premium figure?

Chase figures are less common figures in the set--so there are far fewer of them to be found relative to the other, regular figures (the proportions vary though).

And yes, the white Tarbosaurus is the Dinotales Series 4 Chase figure.

And your Siamotyrannus? That's a Dinotales Series 1 version 2 chase figure.

They are also referred to as 'secret' figures--you know they exist, but often the info cards/papers didn't picture them (now, they are often depicted in silhouette on a paper, depending on the company).

Thanks again. This is all very confusing though. Can't we start a comprehensive Kaiyodo archive on these boards? I'm sure all us collectors combined have at least one complete Kaiyodo collection. If we all take pics and some of the more expert members/mods order them we could fill a gap in dinosaur fandom that I know collectors have wanted to close for years. Thoughts, anyone?

[sbell]

Jun 8, 2011 18:25:45 GMT roselaar said:

Jun 8, 2011 17:51:53 GMT sbell said:

Chase figures are less common figures in the set--so there are far fewer of them to be found relative to the other, regular figures (the proportions vary though).

And yes, the white Tarbosaurus is the Dinotales Series 4 Chase figure.

And your Siamotyrannus? That's a Dinotales Series 1 version 2 chase figure.

They are also referred to as 'secret' figures--you know they exist, but often the info cards/papers didn't picture them (now, they are often depicted in silhouette on a paper, depending on the company).

Thanks again. This is all very confusing though. Can't we start a comprehensive Kaiyodo archive on these boards? I'm sure all us collectors combined have at least one complete Kaiyodo collection. If we all take pics and some of the more expert members/mods order them we could fill a gap in dinosaur fandom that I know collectors have wanted to close for years. Thoughts, anyone?

I have actually taken group (and individual) photos of all of my sets--I have them all up to s7 (missing a few of the Dino Expo specials, like your Microraptor there). I was planning on doing it at some point, but time is not easy to come by.

And for the record folks--there are THREE different Seismosaurus figures; the red, the brown, and an odd two-tone brown/yellow one (it was $75 before any other costs, so no, I don' t have it, as I'm not insane).

[roselaar]

If you can ever make the time, please don't hesitate. I'd love to see a good record of Kaiyodosaurs, I'm sure it'll be helpful to a lot of collectors.

[sbell]

Jun 8, 2011 21:21:44 GMT roselaar said:

If you can ever make the time, please don't hesitate. I'd love to see a good record of Kaiyodosaurs, I'm sure it'll be helpful to a lot of collectors.

I will at some point (I forgot to mention, I don't have all of s1v2, but I don't feel the need to get all of those, just the ones with cool paint jobs).

[brontodocus]

Great lot, roselaar!
I've also made a site on facebook containing most Dinotales (all sculpts, but not all paint versions) with individual photos: www.facebook.com/media/albums/?id=149100965149683
There is also at least one more Seismosaurus, the grey one from the am/pm set:

Oh, and I'll have to upoad some I didn't photograph yet, the Wonder Figure Seismosaurus and the orange Siamotyrannus (the same as in roselaar's photo).

[sbell]

Jun 9, 2011 10:14:20 GMT brontodocus said:

Great lot, roselaar!
I've also made a site on facebook containing most Dinotales (all sculpts, but not all paint versions) with individual photos: www.facebook.com/media/albums/?id=149100965149683
There is also at least one more Seismosaurus, the grey one from the am/pm set:

Oh, and I'll have to upoad some I didn't photograph yet, the Wonder Figure Seismosaurus and the orange Siamotyrannus (the same as in roselaar's photo).

The funny thing about the Seismosaurus--unlike the other Dinotales with different paint schemes--is that there are two different sculpts! The red (and apparently grey) ones are smooth-backed, while the Wonder figure has the row of short spikes along the spine.

Dino Expo red:


Wonder Figure Brown:


The only photos I can find of the Wonder Festival brown/yellow (again, at 75000 Yen+all other costs, this one is never going in my collection!):


It appears that the Wonder Festival one also lacks the dorsal spikes.

[Permiantriassic]

I could probably find the yellow one for cheaper maybe

[roselaar]

Thanks for the Facebook-pics, Brontodocus, those should come in helpful.
It's still annoying to pick out the premium repaints from the normal release figures. For example, a Stegosaurus I have is listed as the Dino Expo 2002 special on dinosaurcollector, while you listed it under the regular Dino Tales Series 2 releases. Repainting normal figures for special releases is just d**n confusing.

[sbell]

Jun 9, 2011 19:29:21 GMT roselaar said:

Thanks for the Facebook-pics, Brontodocus, those should come in helpful.
It's still annoying to pick out the premium repaints from the normal release figures. For example, a Stegosaurus I have is listed as the Dino Expo 2002 special on dinosaurcollector, while you listed it under the regular Dino Tales Series 2 releases. Repainting normal figures for special releases is just d**n confusing.

Here are the 2 I know of (there may be others):
Series 2

Dino Expo 2002 Special

[brontodocus]

Jun 9, 2011 13:20:38 GMT sbell said:

The funny thing about the Seismosaurus--unlike the other Dinotales with different paint schemes--is that there are two different sculpts! The red (and apparently grey) ones are smooth-backed, while the Wonder figure has the row of short spikes along the spine.

Yes, the dorsal spike row was the reason why I wanted the Wonder Figure version since the grey am/pm doesn't have it.

Jun 9, 2011 19:29:21 GMT roselaar said:

Thanks for the Facebook-pics, Brontodocus, those should come in helpful.
It's still annoying to pick out the premium repaints from the normal release figures. For example, a Stegosaurus I have is listed as the Dino Expo 2002 special on dinosaurcollector, while you listed it under the regular Dino Tales Series 2 releases. Repainting normal figures for special releases is just d**n confusing.

Thanks, roselaar! Yes, the pale Stegosaurus with the reddish plates is actually from the Dinosaur Expo 2002 Limited Edition. Perhaps I should transfer it to the special editions album to avoid confusion. So it's just like the way sbell just posted.

[sbell]

Jun 9, 2011 19:29:21 GMT roselaar said:

Thanks for the Facebook-pics, Brontodocus, those should come in helpful.
It's still annoying to pick out the premium repaints from the normal release figures. For example, a Stegosaurus I have is listed as the Dino Expo 2002 special on dinosaurcollector, while you listed it under the regular Dino Tales Series 2 releases. Repainting normal figures for special releases is just d**n confusing.

I forgot to mention, it could be worse--there are at least 4 Tyrannosaurus paints! Light Brown (s1), white (s1 special), dark brown (s1v2) and green (JP special edition)! I don't think any other Dinotales figure has been repainted so many times (except, apparently, the Seismosaurus!).


But if you notice the back foot (both feet, really) you can actually see that a different sculpt was used for the s1v2 and JP ones! The top two photos show it best.

[roselaar]

Okay, so my Stegosaurus is indeed the Expo figure then. Good to know. How much rarer are these Expo figures compared to the regular figures? (I have no idea what the Dino Expo involves anyway.)

[brontodocus]

Yes, it is. Hmmm, I don't know how rare it is but I got my Expo 2002 figure from a member here in trade for Invicta figures (or was it Schleich? Don't remember exactly). The set also included a green Deinonychus, white Acrocanthosaurus, blackish Seismosaurus skeleton, and the red Seismosaurus sbell posted.

And there's also this am/pm Tyrannosaurus, same mold as the Series 1.2 or Jurassic Park Institute Tour versions:


In many other series 1.2 figures the arrangement of parts differs from version 1 and it seems to be quite an improvement since the gaps between the parts are less conspicuous.

[kessie]

Anyone have an idea as to what these two little items are?

Both made in 1997 and marked but this is quite ambigious as they lettering is quite difficult to read.

Thanks

[kessie]

Jun 12, 2011 18:34:27 GMT kessie said:

Anyone have an idea as to what these two little items are?

Both made in 1997 and marked but this is quite ambigious as they lettering is quite difficult to read.

Thanks

And here is the photo

Attachments:

[mnemosaurus]

Jun 12, 2011 18:41:21 GMT kessie said:

Jun 12, 2011 18:34:27 GMT kessie said:

Anyone have an idea as to what these two little items are?

Both made in 1997 and marked but this is quite ambigious as they lettering is quite difficult to read.

Thanks

And here is the photo

They are from Jasman, or at least the right one is (I also have it).