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Post by Pangolinmoth on Feb 2, 2011 2:31:14 GMT
Here is the one at the Ancient Life Museum. looks quite odd to me. That frill?!? Sorta Stepford wifelike.
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Post by DinoLord on Feb 2, 2011 2:32:24 GMT
That fossil must have faced some pretty heavy distortion when it was in the ground.
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Post by Horridus on Feb 2, 2011 16:55:22 GMT
That thing was clearly rather crushed. I'm surprised they didn't produce a 'corrected' cast.
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Post by Himmapaan on Feb 2, 2011 17:02:53 GMT
It gives the animal a rather dejected look, poor thing.
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Post by Griffin on Feb 3, 2011 3:44:24 GMT
The snout is so weird looking!
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Post by Seijun on Feb 3, 2011 4:13:51 GMT
He was stepped on as a baby by t-rex.
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Post by dinoguy2 on Feb 4, 2011 0:43:23 GMT
The snout is so weird looking! A lot of the skull is probably reconstructed based on the artist's imagination... if not all of it. I wish more museums would make the interpreted bits and the bits known from actual fossils clear with color differences like they do here: www.flickr.com/photos/astrangerinthealps/sets/72157624225312865/with/4730820535/Like many museums, this one doesn't have any actual fossils, just casts they bought from others, but they do a very good job by making the unknown portions of the skeleton black, while painting the known parts like real fossils.
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Post by Horridus on Feb 4, 2011 0:51:20 GMT
I wish more museums would make the interpreted bits and the bits known from actual fossils clear Completely agree. Not only that, but outdated mounts should have signs pointing out exactly how they are outdated. This is with particular reference to the Natural History Museum (London)...
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Post by Griffin on Feb 5, 2011 1:12:16 GMT
Oh yeah the AMNH is like that too. I can't really blame them its a lot of work to get a skeleton mounted.
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Post by foxilized on Feb 11, 2011 0:34:07 GMT
Oh yeah the AMNH is like that too. I can't really blame them its a lot of work to get a skeleton mounted. Surely thousand of workers exist willing to do the job. Or is it like the museums don't have money to spend?
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Post by haretrinity on Mar 9, 2011 18:56:17 GMT
Oh yeah the AMNH is like that too. I can't really blame them its a lot of work to get a skeleton mounted. Surely thousand of workers exist willing to do the job. Or is it like the museums don't have money to spend? You'd think plenty of students/artists/dino-enthusiasts would be happy to do it for FREE just to be part of it? Fun thread by the way! I saw the NHM one just last month! And the AMNH one last year. Fun! (I have always loved the NHM though, and have to say the AMNH was a little bit of a disappointment in comparison... Still, I did enjoy it!)
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Post by Horridus on Mar 9, 2011 19:02:34 GMT
(I have always loved the NHM though, and have to say the AMNH was a little bit of a disappointment in comparison... Still, I did enjoy it!) AMNH a disappointment? But...but...it has the T. rex AMNH 5027 and Apatosaurus excelsus in the same room! I haven't been, but it's one of my ambitions to visit...or it was....sob....I'm going outside now, and I may be gone for some time... By the way, did you enjoy the missing toe and weird tail on the NHM mount?
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Post by haretrinity on Mar 9, 2011 19:57:34 GMT
(I have always loved the NHM though, and have to say the AMNH was a little bit of a disappointment in comparison... Still, I did enjoy it!) AMNH a disappointment? But...but...it has the T. rex AMNH 5027 and Apatosaurus excelsus in the same room! I haven't been, but it's one of my ambitions to visit...or it was....sob....I'm going outside now, and I may be gone for some time... By the way, did you enjoy the missing toe and weird tail on the NHM mount? When I went in February they were closing early for some evening event and I only JUST got to run through the dinosaur exhibit at all! So I didn't notice that (mostly I searched for a mention of the Torosaurus theory, though found none). And AMNH was brilliant with some definitely interesting parts and... Acutally, yeah, I have the photo on hand of me with the triceratops [Attaches so you can all see her looking like a fool as well as a DIFFERENT ANGLE on it, gasp!] Mostly AMNH disappointed because it didn't have the atmosphere of the NHM I think... I wasn't very disappointed, just thought it would be more overwhelming; still had a great time! I think it didn't help that someone passed nearby telling her friend how evolution shouldn't be taught as anything more than a "theory" in schools (my response to that is normally "you mean like gravity?" but I didn't pipe up this time; partially as I'm polite and partially as I was shocked to hear that being said in any biology-themed museum). Being the total nerd I am I still loved it, just felt it lacked the NHM atmosphere of ZOMGSCIENCE! But then maybe some of this was because I'd been handling wild treefrogs and catching fireflies and such the week before (friend I was visiting lives in rural NY)! Attachments:
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Post by Himmapaan on Mar 9, 2011 21:42:19 GMT
It's true, one of the many things which makes the NHM so dear to me is its atmosphere. I love its architecture too, which also helps in that regard. I'd love to visit the AMNH too, of course, but that isn't likely to happen soon either...
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Post by dinoguy2 on Mar 11, 2011 20:50:03 GMT
AMNH a disappointment? But...but...it has the T. rex AMNH 5027 and Apatosaurus excelsus in the same room! I haven't been, but it's one of my ambitions to visit...or it was....sob....I'm going outside now, and I may be gone for some time... By the way, did you enjoy the missing toe and weird tail on the NHM mount? When I went in February they were closing early for some evening event and I only JUST got to run through the dinosaur exhibit at all! So I didn't notice that (mostly I searched for a mention of the Torosaurus theory, though found none). And AMNH was brilliant with some definitely interesting parts and... Acutally, yeah, I have the photo on hand of me with the triceratops [Attaches so you can all see her looking like a fool as well as a DIFFERENT ANGLE on it, gasp!] Mostly AMNH disappointed because it didn't have the atmosphere of the NHM I think... I wasn't very disappointed, just thought it would be more overwhelming; still had a great time! I agree with all this... the AMNH is great for taking pictures because it's so bright, well lit, and the skeletons are spaced out. But it doesn't have much character. I may be dating myself too much but I remember going there as a little kid before the renovations and it was much cooler. Especially the darker, primordial-looking Jurassic hall with the old-school "Brontosaurus" mount. Adding info cards to the exhibits with new thepries and pointing out what's outdated about the mounts would be a great idea. Wonder if any museums do that. They're probably afraid it would mislead the under-educated folks who are already suspicious of science to think they're just making it all up, or that all science is unreliable, when the fact that our concepts change over time is the reason science works at all.
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Post by mnemosaurus on Mar 11, 2011 21:46:59 GMT
Everytime this thread pops up in the latest posts it reminds me that I have some pictures to post of Triceratops Cliff 'the fossilized superstar' in the Boston Museum of Science, that I visited a few weeks ago... I promise to do it shortly . I also visited the AMNH about two and a half years ago and it was a wonderful experience. I really liked the dinosaur displays a lot. Of course it's completely something different from the nineteenth-century natural history museum atmosphere in the London museum. Nevertheless, both museums and dinosaur exhibits are absolutely great
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Post by Horridus on Mar 13, 2011 17:38:02 GMT
They're probably afraid it would mislead the under-educated folks who are already suspicious of science to think they're just making it all up, or that all science is unreliable, when the fact that our concepts change over time is the reason science works at all. That would be a concern, but I think it's less of a problem with dinosaurs as people are aware of the pop culture changes in their depiction - going from tail-draggers to dynamic animals.
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Post by Griffin on Mar 13, 2011 22:11:14 GMT
"Adding info cards to the exhibits with new thepries and pointing out what's outdated about the mounts would be a great idea. Wonder if any museums do that. They're probably afraid it would mislead the under-educated folks who are already suspicious of science to think they're just making it all up, or that all science is unreliable, when the fact that our concepts change over time is the reason science works at all."
Maybe. But honestly I just think its cuz they don't want to shell out the money more than anything else.
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