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Post by Griffin on May 9, 2011 19:10:29 GMT
The neck is in a 90º angle with respect to the body, not too exaggerated. Its describing an arch like some bulls do when they stomp somebody. Again the perspective is a bit messed, I guess. Tossing the troodontid over his back seems unrealistic even if he didn´t lack horns. I have seen a drawing of a ceratopsid throwing a small theropod over the back via horn before. Its not unrealistic. Nature is rough stuff happens. The reason why I bring up the neck thing is because in addition to having a frill that sticks out the sides of the head, the vertebrae that are directly behind the skull of a ceratopsid are all fused together which I think would further limit flexibility to that degree. So yeah they fill the same ecological niche of a bovid but they are not built the same way at all. Def buy Greg Paul's Dino Field guide it has great diagrams of the anatomy of pretty any kind of dinosaur. I hope you don't find my nitpicking annoying. I just remember you mentioning how you want these to be as accurate as possible I'm just giving you my input from what I know about the animals. |
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Post by arioch on May 9, 2011 19:50:16 GMT
But even with the fused vertebrae in the back of head I dont think Pachy´s frill and horns aren´t big enough to impede such movement. Unless they are fused up to the base of the neck, do they? The big ceratopsians neck seem to me long , muscular and thin enough to allow them to do that, unless we´re talking about Styracosaurus or long frilled ones, and bearing in mind that they had to deal with predators way taller than them, that they could raise their heads like that doesn´t seem completely unbelievable to me . (I wasn´t obviously implying that their anatomy resemble those of bovids neither, just describing this particular action). That said, maybe the angle here is a bit forced, but keep in mind its sort of an humorous piece and the extreme dynamism that you try to infuse sometimes makes you turn a blind eye on biomechanics or anathomy.  And don´t worry about the nitpicking! |
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Post by arioch on May 9, 2011 23:53:28 GMT
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Post by Horridus on May 10, 2011 17:09:49 GMT
Wonderful stuff! I like the Dilophosaurus with the neck wattle, and the colours on the Pachyrhinosaurus.
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Post by arioch on May 10, 2011 18:32:23 GMT
Thanks!  I´m particularly happy with the Dilopho. It came out cleaner and nicer than I expected bearing in mind I haven´t draw it in many years. This morning I sketched something to illustrate some theory of mine. Its not very elaborated but serves to its purpose. Defensive strategies of Einiosaurus:  Uploaded with ImageShack.usJust because his horn pointed downward that doesnt´mean it was useless for the defense! it could be used to pierce predators legs like a pick, taking advantage of his stature and neck muscle power to deliver a powerful downward blow, capable of breaking articulations. Bearing in mind that they are basically bipedal creatures that can´t even use the arms to stand up, a crippled big theropod is a dead theropod -unless they have a partner to take care of them until the injury heals- and by any means a threat for a full grown ceratopsian! (Right now Im working in something else that includes Acrocanthosaurus, similar in spirit to that one of Alamosaurus. Tomorrow it will be done I suppose) |
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on May 10, 2011 19:25:24 GMT
I know now why Einio always reminded me of a can opener...he's def opening a can of something on that theropod ! ;D
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Post by arioch on May 11, 2011 14:05:49 GMT
Acrocanthosaurus atokensis have a disagreement with a couple of Utahraptor ostrommaysorum over the property of a defunct Tenontosaurus tiletti. Mr. Acro is trying to be polite but the raptors just don´t want to listen.  |
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Post by Radman on May 11, 2011 14:28:35 GMT
Love it!
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Post by Himmapaan on May 11, 2011 14:55:42 GMT
;D
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on May 11, 2011 16:25:55 GMT
I NEVER thought of an Acro as polite.. lol ;D
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Post by arioch on May 11, 2011 19:10:59 GMT
Being polite is the easiest way to deal with every delicate situation Mr Blade! I bet they already knew this in the Mesozoic... ;D
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Post by hkhollinstone on May 11, 2011 21:48:17 GMT
Wow, I love it  |
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Post by arioch on May 11, 2011 21:58:13 GMT
Thanks! Another disagreement, this time involving Gigantoraptor and Achillobator. Those big dromaeosaurs are quite a problematic folk!  |
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on May 12, 2011 5:23:51 GMT
lol ;D
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Post by arioch on May 12, 2011 14:34:29 GMT
Shantungosaurus revenge! Shantungosaurus has had enough! Why should he keep fleeing from a puny theropod like Alectrosaurus who barely is half its size and weight? And contrary to the popular belief, duckbills can fight!
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Post by Horridus on May 12, 2011 14:51:45 GMT
Duckbills gone bad! ;D Love it!
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on May 12, 2011 18:30:51 GMT
When hadrosaurs attack !
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Post by Himmapaan on May 12, 2011 19:55:20 GMT
Ahaha! ;D Love it.
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Post by hkhollinstone on May 12, 2011 20:01:08 GMT
brilliant ;D
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Post by Griffin on May 12, 2011 20:27:06 GMT
Awesome. But it looks like you gave the shantungosaurus too many fingers.
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