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Post by mmfrankford on Jul 18, 2011 16:10:35 GMT
So if I'm getting this right, they have ground away the upper surface to show the frosted effect? Which also unfortunately removes detail? That sucks to find out later. Well if anything good comes from this, it's that others know what to watch out for.
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Post by Seijun on Jul 18, 2011 17:39:49 GMT
Based on krentz comparison picture in his shapeways thread, FUD has the best detail.
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Post by brontodocus on Jul 19, 2011 8:51:09 GMT
So if I'm getting this right, they have ground away the upper surface to show the frosted effect? Which also unfortunately removes detail? That sucks to find out later. Well if anything good comes from this, it's that others know what to watch out for. I am not 100% sure what they did with it but it is obviously a clear material that is partially made opaque and it looks like this has been achieved mechanically, yes. I'm not saying that there is much detail lost but technically I think this isn't possible without losing at least some detail. Oh, but most of the frosted area was actually on the lower surface instead of the upper Based on krentz comparison picture in his shapeways thread, FUD has the best detail. I would still agree it has. It only isn't looking good when you leave the models unpainted. Exactly this material without all this frostration would be perfect- the unaltered surface is very intricate yet smooth and shows no lines like in "Detail".
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Post by mmfrankford on Jul 19, 2011 10:17:01 GMT
Thanks, now I get it. Little slow sometimes. ;D
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Post by postsaurischian on Jul 19, 2011 13:24:22 GMT
After having tried different materials I made my choice. 'Black Detail' that is. Less expensive than UFD, still shows great detail and also looks awesome unpainted. (..... but it's still amazing how much detail the 'White, strong & flexible' models show after having been painted by Martin Garratt.)
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Post by mmfrankford on Jul 19, 2011 16:20:51 GMT
After having tried different materials I made my choice. 'Black Detail' that is. Less expensive than UFD, still shows great detail and also looks awesome unpainted. (..... but it's still amazing how much detail the 'White, strong & flexible' models show after having been painted by Martin Garratt.) I got the alamosaurus in WSF. Maybe because it was a larger figure the detail came off pretty nice. The ankylosaurus in WSF was less detailed. I could see where the frosted would look great with Razh00 amphibians for translucent fins.
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Post by postsaurischian on Jul 19, 2011 18:17:24 GMT
I could see where the frosted would look great with Razh00 amphibians for translucent fins. Interesting point!
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Post by bokisaurus on Jul 20, 2011 6:14:32 GMT
This is what my Agustinia ended up looking like and this is after I soaked it and brush the hell out of it ;D Not happy at all. I was expecting it to look better, especially I was not planning on painting these guys... and for the price. I guess back to SWF next round
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Post by copper on Jul 20, 2011 17:39:15 GMT
After having tried different materials I made my choice. 'Black Detail' that is. Less expensive than UFD, still shows great detail and also looks awesome unpainted. (..... but it's still amazing how much detail the 'White, strong & flexible' models show after having been painted by Martin Garratt.) does the 'black detail' really have nice details? (some photos would be appreciated). if i were to paint these models, should i get them done in 'black detail' or 'white strong and flexible'? and if i choose to paint the 'black detail, will it loose some of it details? what is the best material to get them if i'm going to paint them and i don't want to lost too much details.
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Post by postsaurischian on Jul 20, 2011 18:01:33 GMT
Does the 'black detail' really have nice details? (some photos would be appreciated). if i were to paint these models, should i get them done in 'black detail' or 'white strong and flexible'? and if i choose to paint the 'black detail, will it loose some of it details? what is the best material to get them if i'm going to paint them and i don't want to lost too much details. I'm afraid I'm not capable to answer the 'best material for painting'-question, but unpainted I like the BD look .
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Post by copper on Jul 20, 2011 23:18:44 GMT
oh man i can't wait to be able to order the angie's new models! i'll definitely order them in BD.
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Post by Seijun on Jul 21, 2011 0:00:45 GMT
Does anyone else have pieces in BD?
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Post by duann on Jul 28, 2011 3:47:42 GMT
Hey Guys, Duann here from Shapeways, I just stumbled across this thread and thought it may be worth letting you know a little more about the Frosted Ultra Detail. It is a cured UV resin with the only difference between Frosted Detail and Frosted Ultra Detail is the resolution setting of the 3D printer, it also makes the process slower and hence more expensive. The process is basically a UV curable resin is laid down where you want solid parts and a wax is laid down where there is no solid parts as a support material. After printing the wax is melted off of the solid as it has a lower melting temperature than the resin. If you have a model that is hollow but there is no hole for the wax to escape, then the wax is trapped inside the model, I think this is what we are seeing with bokisaurus's model. To keep the translucency you will need to make the model solid. If you do not have a hole for the support material to escape you are charged as if it is hollow anyway so it should cost the same to print. There is no 'frosting' process after the printing is done, we just called it frosted because it is not transparent.. The other detail materials are produced in a similar way, UV cured, but use a different machine, different support material and different cleaning process. I hope this answers some of your questions, you can always contact me duann (AT) shapeways.com if you wanted to ask anything else, you are all doing AMAZING stuff and we would love to see it in the Shapeways forums too. We have an 'It Arrived' forum where people share their designs, www.shapeways.com/forum/index.php?t=thread&frm_id=91&Thanks
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Post by Sparkleopteryx on Aug 2, 2011 0:10:56 GMT
Hey Duann! Thanks for stopping by and explaining more of the process. Its really fun getting models that you only thought you would ever get to see in digital!!! Again, thanks for the work you guys do and I'm glad you think the dinosaurs are looking good. Guys, here is David's Eddie. I finally got him in his forest setting. He looks a thousand times better in person. I'm just not a good photographer. He has more detail in person. Anyway, I love making these dioramas. Everything is out of my backyard. I even painted little lichens on the rocks Enjoy,
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Post by krentz on Aug 2, 2011 2:36:41 GMT
Shroomosaurus part two.
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Post by Sparkleopteryx on Aug 2, 2011 2:56:50 GMT
HAHA! I so did that on purpose and KNEW you would comment SHROOMOSAURUS!!!!!!! And everone else here is like what are you talking about, lol!!!!
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Post by Jeremy on Aug 2, 2011 4:15:55 GMT
Great work on another beautiful Hadrosaur. I've only seen this one at Wonderfest(Martin Garratt buildup), and I couldn't believe how tiny it was.
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Post by dinohunter000 on Aug 2, 2011 4:24:54 GMT
Gorgeous patterns on the Edmontosaur!!
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Post by bokisaurus on Aug 2, 2011 6:30:24 GMT
Lovely paint as always. Even more when you know how small this figure is, really a test of ones painting skills and Patience
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Post by brontodocus on Aug 2, 2011 8:46:23 GMT
Lovely work on the Edmontosaurus, Angie! I guess I'll end up making mini dioramas for my mini Krentzies, too. There's still a pound of Super Sculpey left in my fridge... ;D
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