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Post by bowheadwhale on Oct 5, 2011 20:42:27 GMT
WOW! I will never be able to gather a collection like that...
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Post by bowheadwhale on Oct 9, 2011 19:15:24 GMT
I don't know if I can do it. In Canada, it's very hard to find toys apart from Littlest Pet Shop or Pokemon (bleah). My Bully's all come from Europe and I have to pay huge shipping for getting them, when I CAN get them. And when you know the only Invicta piece I have is the Blue Whale, which I found by accident in a store back in 1994, you'll consider that animal toys are not easy to find here (apart from the overproduced lions, tigers, giraffes, african elephant, T-Rexes and triceratopses; bleah). I have trouble finding quality stuff here and all the quality stuff I have... you dino forum members have them too. Except from my Imperial and Arco stuff. But even that, that's not that rare. Good, but not rare. I think the only original stuff I have is the whale collection by Larami. Not very accurate, but a huge effort made by a company usually specialized in water guns.
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Post by sbell on Oct 9, 2011 21:22:14 GMT
I don't know if I can do it. In Canada, it's very hard to find toys apart from Littlest Pet Shop or Pokemon (bleah). My Bully's all come from Europe and I have to pay huge shipping for getting them, when I CAN get them. And when you know the only Invicta piece I have is the Blue Whale, which I found by accident in a store back in 1994, you'll consider that animal toys are not easy to find here (apart from the overproduced lions, tigers, giraffes, african elephant, T-Rexes and triceratopses; bleah). I have trouble finding quality stuff here and all the quality stuff I have... you dino forum members have them too. Except from my Imperial and Arco stuff. But even that, that's not that rare. Good, but not rare. I think the only original stuff I have is the whale collection by Larami. Not very accurate, but a huge effort made by a company usually specialized in water guns. I have tons of prehistoric mammals, from all around the world, and I have always lived in Canada. From what I can tell, I have about 300 different prehistoric (and recently extinct) mammal figures. Including all of the Bullys, most Starlux, the Nabiscos, Play Visions, many Japanese figures, Safari etc. etc (there are many I don't currently have--most Yowies, earlier Carnegies--I've had them, but sold a lot of them). It's just a matter of watching, waiting, and being willing to spend the money when the time comes (I don't like to think how much my Tyco Megachoerus cost, for example).
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Post by tanystropheus on Oct 10, 2011 12:14:05 GMT
I don't know if I can do it. In Canada, it's very hard to find toys apart from Littlest Pet Shop or Pokemon (bleah). My Bully's all come from Europe and I have to pay huge shipping for getting them, when I CAN get them. And when you know the only Invicta piece I have is the Blue Whale, which I found by accident in a store back in 1994, you'll consider that animal toys are not easy to find here (apart from the overproduced lions, tigers, giraffes, african elephant, T-Rexes and triceratopses; bleah). I have trouble finding quality stuff here and all the quality stuff I have... you dino forum members have them too. Except from my Imperial and Arco stuff. But even that, that's not that rare. Good, but not rare. I think the only original stuff I have is the whale collection by Larami. Not very accurate, but a huge effort made by a company usually specialized in water guns. (I don't like to think how much my Tyco Megachoerus cost, for example). Megachoerus! So that's what it is called!!....all these years I've been lead to believe that Tyco's "Killer Warthog" was in fact a poorly represented Entelodont...oops
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Post by sbell on Oct 10, 2011 15:08:58 GMT
(I don't like to think how much my Tyco Megachoerus cost, for example). Megachoerus! So that's what it is called!!....all these years I've been lead to believe that Tyco's "Killer Warthog" was in fact a poorly represented Entelodont...oops It's on the box--I thought it was Daeodon (formerly Dinohyus) as well. And Megacheorus is still an entelodont.
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Post by rsknol on Oct 10, 2011 15:11:14 GMT
Great collection. I liked the panorama set and the DZ figures are a favorite, I didn't see the Elasmotherium? Predators has several mammals you might like. K&M and Friends of the Earth had a Quagga and Przewalski's Horse in the extinct animals collection. Tootsie toy had great mammals I would to see what they looked like if custom painted. Imaginext has a early horse or pantadont as an accessory. Miller mammals are another favorite.
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Post by stormnl on Oct 11, 2011 11:33:13 GMT
can you place some photo's of the prehistoric panorama set and some info about this set,,and were to find,,
it's a very nice set
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Post by sbell on Oct 11, 2011 13:42:48 GMT
can you place some photo's of the prehistoric panorama set and some info about this set,,and were to find,, it's a very nice set They ceased production 3 years ago. They were pretty much available only through their distributor (Tedco Toys) but the new US testing rules for Chinese products made them too expensive. I have all 36 pictured here: picasaweb.google.com/HyenaSean/PrehistoricPanoramaIf it's any consolation their mammals weren't all great. The dinos were the worst though.
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Post by stormnl on Oct 11, 2011 16:50:20 GMT
thats a nice collection
but are the prehistoric mammals still availleble in china our in a other country?
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Post by sbell on Oct 11, 2011 17:27:21 GMT
thats a nice collection but are the prehistoric mammals still availleble in china our in a other country? No, when they discontinued them for TedCo, they discontinued them completely (it was the decision of the manufacturer, COG Ltd, not the distributor, TedCo).
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Post by Seijun on Oct 11, 2011 19:50:16 GMT
(I don't like to think how much my Tyco Megachoerus cost, for example). Was your tyco NIB or something? I didnt think loose ones were that expensive or rare. Regarding millers, those recent minis did go for quite an insane amount. The only one that didn't was the rex, and I forgot to bid on it! The large millers are generally only expensive because they are almost always listed as BIN's for what I believe to be wildly inflated prices, which some people ARE willing to pay. Large millers that are put up for auction generally go for much less, especially if they have damage (even very slight damage). Absolutely mint millers seem to command the highest prices.
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Post by sbell on Oct 11, 2011 19:55:08 GMT
(I don't like to think how much my Tyco Megachoerus cost, for example). Was your tyco NIB or something? I didnt think loose ones were that expensive or rare. Regarding millers, those recent minis did go for quite an insane amount. The only one that didn't was the rex, and I forgot to bid on it! The large millers are generally only expensive because they are almost always listed as BIN's for what I believe to be wildly inflated prices, which some people ARE willing to pay. Large millers that are put up for auction generally go for much less, especially if they have damage (even very slight damage). Absolutely mint millers seem to command the highest prices. Yeah, it was a German MIB. Of course, I since got rid of everything except the entelodont, because I don't care about the rest.
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Post by sbell on Oct 12, 2011 20:31:16 GMT
Ouch--$10 for just two (they were originally $2 each). I think this may be the same company that was selling the entire sets for around $25 a few years ago--looks like desperate people bought them after it was too late.
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Post by bowheadwhale on Oct 12, 2011 20:36:16 GMT
If MEGACHOERUS was an entelodont, does it mean that the unicorn-like KUBANOCHOERUS was an entelodont too?
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Post by sbell on Oct 12, 2011 21:11:47 GMT
If MEGACHOERUS was an entelodont, does it mean that the unicorn-like KUBANOCHOERUS was an entelodont too? No, it's a suid (pig). And don't confuse Megachoerus (enteldont) with Megalochoerus (pig). They are completely different animals (different families, different times, different places--apparently, Megachoerus was found right from where I'm typing! I didn't know that, since it was originally identified as Archaeotherium)
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Post by tanystropheus on Oct 13, 2011 8:25:38 GMT
If MEGACHOERUS was an entelodont, does it mean that the unicorn-like KUBANOCHOERUS was an entelodont too? I'm looking at some google images of KUBANOCHOERUS. When did this animal become extinct? (Perhaps it was responsible for unicorn sightings during ancient times, no?). Why do almost every single modern grazing animal* (excluding the jackalope) sport horns, except for the horse? *there's a flaw in my logic here somewhere. Lets exclude the rodent and lagomorphs family altogether (no capybaras etc.)
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Post by sbell on Oct 13, 2011 13:52:04 GMT
If MEGACHOERUS was an entelodont, does it mean that the unicorn-like KUBANOCHOERUS was an entelodont too? I'm looking at some google images of KUBANOCHOERUS. When did this animal become extinct? (Perhaps it was responsible for unicorn sightings during ancient times, no?). Why do almost every single modern grazing animal* (excluding the jackalope) sport horns, except for the horse? *there's a flaw in my logic here somewhere. Lets exclude the rodent and lagomorphs family altogether (no capybaras etc.) Ceratogaulus--a mylagaulid rodent--had horns. They were likely important for its fossorial lifestyle. And there are lots of grazers (and browsers) that didn't have horns.
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Post by bowheadwhale on Oct 13, 2011 18:23:07 GMT
If MEGACHOERUS was an entelodont, does it mean that the unicorn-like KUBANOCHOERUS was an entelodont too? I'm looking at some google images of KUBANOCHOERUS. When did this animal become extinct? (Perhaps it was responsible for unicorn sightings during ancient times, no?). Why do almost every single modern grazing animal* (excluding the jackalope) sport horns, except for the horse? *there's a flaw in my logic here somewhere. Lets exclude the rodent and lagomorphs family altogether (no capybaras etc.) It's not likely that Kubanochoerus sightings were the roots of the unicorn legend, because unicorn legends come from Tibet. In ancient Asia (like India and Tibet), there was once a custom that asked young goats having their horns artificially linked by smiths; they thought those one-horned animals would bring them luck. If you look at ancient artworks, you will see those "tibetan unicorns", hairy goats with either only one horn, or their two horns torsaded one around another. And it seems it's the sighting of those "artificial" unicorns by european travelers that brought the legend of unicorns to life. You see, if you look at old european unicorn artworks, you will notice that not only THEY ARE WHITE (a color Kubanochoerus musn't have had unless they were leucistic), but that they also have GOAT-LIKE CHARACTERISTICS: a beard, two hooves per foot and a rather small size. It's only later that unicorns started to be represented horse-sized, because of the discovery of narwhal tusks, which were sold as unicorn horns (of course, to have such a big horn, the unicorn needed to be bigger than goats; so, over the years, they were painted bigger and bigger). So, about unicorns, you have to remember two things: 1- Unicorn legends come from artificially-transformed goats in India (old asian artworks tend to prove it), this is why they were always represented white and goat-sized by Europeans, and never looked like rhinoceroses or pigs in their descriptions; 2- Narwhal tusks gave the legend more and more life, but that also brought Europeans "reconsider" unicorn size, which concluded in unicorns being painted bigger and bigger over the years.
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Post by tanystropheus on Oct 13, 2011 22:15:35 GMT
I'm looking at some google images of KUBANOCHOERUS. When did this animal become extinct? (Perhaps it was responsible for unicorn sightings during ancient times, no?). Why do almost every single modern grazing animal* (excluding the jackalope) sport horns, except for the horse? *there's a flaw in my logic here somewhere. Lets exclude the rodent and lagomorphs family altogether (no capybaras etc.) It's not likely that Kubanochoerus sightings were the roots of the unicorn legend, because unicorn legends come from Tibet. In ancient Asia (like India and Tibet), there was once a custom that asked young goats having their horns artificially linked by smiths; they thought those one-horned animals would bring them luck. If you look at ancient artworks, you will see those "tibetan unicorns", hairy goats with either only one horn, or their two horns torsaded one around another. And it seems it's the sighting of those "artificial" unicorns by european travelers that brought the legend of unicorns to life. You see, if you look at old european unicorn artworks, you will notice that not only THEY ARE WHITE (a color Kubanochoerus musn't have had unless they were leucistic), but that they also have GOAT-LIKE CHARACTERISTICS: a beard, two hooves per foot and a rather small size. It's only later that unicorns started to be represented horse-sized, because of the discovery of narwhal tusks, which were sold as unicorn horns (of course, to have such a big horn, the unicorn needed to be bigger than goats; so, over the years, they were painted bigger and bigger). So, about unicorns, you have to remember two things: 1- Unicorn legends come from artificially-transformed goats in India (old asian artworks tend to prove it), this is why they were always represented white and goat-sized by Europeans, and never looked like rhinoceroses or pigs in their descriptions; 2- Narwhal tusks gave the legend more and more life, but that also brought Europeans "reconsider" unicorn size, which concluded in unicorns being painted bigger and bigger over the years. Thank you so much for your fascinating, and comprehensive response! :)I truly appreciate it. Everything stated here seems logical. I completely forgot about the goat like beard that is characteristic of unicorns in classical asian artwork (as well as the goat specific hoof attribute)
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Post by tanystropheus on Oct 13, 2011 22:19:27 GMT
I'm looking at some google images of KUBANOCHOERUS. When did this animal become extinct? (Perhaps it was responsible for unicorn sightings during ancient times, no?). Why do almost every single modern grazing animal* (excluding the jackalope) sport horns, except for the horse? *there's a flaw in my logic here somewhere. Lets exclude the rodent and lagomorphs family altogether (no capybaras etc.) Ceratogaulus--a mylagaulid rodent--had horns. They were likely important for its fossorial lifestyle. And there are lots of grazers (and browsers) that didn't have horns. Wow. Horned gophers!! These guys look uber-funky
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