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Post by Ajax on Dec 18, 2008 1:28:49 GMT
I'm not sure if anyone has discussed this topic before or if anyone would even find it interesting but with so many different Albino animals and reptiles these days it makes me wonder if Albino Dinosaurs or Ice Age Mammals existed. There might be proof of this somewhere I'm not aware off but i thought if anyone knows anything about this they could say so.
Considering there are Albino Crocs and platypus these days makes me wonder.
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Post by kuni on Dec 18, 2008 2:01:57 GMT
The existence of albino crocs and albino birds strongly suggests that albino dinosaurs also existed, though they were likely a small fraction of the population.
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Post by dinonikes on Dec 18, 2008 2:03:40 GMT
I would think that there must have been albino dinosaurs. There are albino everything else. Why would dinos be any different?
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Post by dinonikes on Dec 18, 2008 2:06:50 GMT
I bet there were other freak dinos too like the two headed cows and frogs you see- imagine some paleontologist finding one like that! He would start some new theory about two headed dinos.
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Post by therizinosaurus on Dec 18, 2008 2:13:52 GMT
Well, I can see there being some at birth, but much like albino/white tigers today they probably wouldn't make it to adulthood due to health problems/lack of camouflage. It's funny, I actually thought about painting my carnegie Carnotaurus albino the other day.
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Post by Ajax on Dec 18, 2008 2:14:38 GMT
I would think that there must have been albino dinosaurs. There are albino everything else. Why would dinos be any different? I think they may have existed too but, the Albino gene may not have existed then. I like to imagine there were giant white Sauropods wandering around and even a white plesiosaurus would have been awesome. |
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Post by ningishzida on Dec 18, 2008 2:17:01 GMT
There is no doubt that albino dinosaur would have existed, but the trick is the same as with albino animals today. In the wild, the white color makes young animals very conspicuous to predators and very few reach maturity. There have been real life cases of many surviving to adulthood, and when considering dinosaurs, there are examples of adult albino crocodilians in the wild. It's an interesting topic, and I may repaint a dino as an ablino one of these day. Then there is also the case of melanism, where the animal is all black or very dark.
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Post by Ajax on Dec 18, 2008 2:18:48 GMT
I bet there were other freak dinos too like the two headed cows and frogs you see- imagine some paleontologist finding one like that! He would start some new theory about two headed dinos. Yes that would have been awesome, I have seen a picture of a 2 headed baby Croc and i worked at a piggery when i left school and have seen many weird deformities in piglets like extra legs, ears and even an extra head but that one was born dead. |
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Post by Ajax on Dec 18, 2008 2:24:24 GMT
There is no doubt that albino dinosaur would have existed, but the trick is the same as with albino animals today. In the wild, the white color makes young animals very conspicuous to predators and very few reach maturity. There have been real life cases of many surviving to adulthood, and when considering dinosaurs, there are examples of adult albino crocodilians in the wild. It's an interesting topic, and I may repaint a dino as an ablino one of these day. Then there is also the case of melanism, where the animal is all black or very dark. Yeah, We should start an 'Albino custom painting dinosaur competition', I know Teton will be in that. |
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Post by crazycrowman on Dec 18, 2008 2:26:46 GMT
There is no "albino gene" across the board like that. It would vary species per species. I am sure that there was variability in dinosaurs and other extinct animals, as to think there wasn't is a gigantic stretch. (thats how evolution works in large part, due to changes through natural variability)
Much like modern animals there were probably albinos, hypo melanistic individuals, melanistic individuals, high color individuals, low color individuals all within one species. I would bet that different animals of the same species had adaptive camo for their specific environment like we see among regional forms and subspecies today. There well could have even been "morphs" like we see in animals like Timber Wolves and Screech Owls, where the animals are the exact same species and both color forms can be produced by a pair of the same color. In Eastern Screech Owls red and grey forms commonly show up in one clutch even under 2 uniformly colored adults.
I recall reading about Woolly Mammoths having 2 color patterns, a red haired form and a dark haired form.
I imagine that just like today much would depend on the numbers of animals in a population, how much inbreeding, and genetic out crossing there was. Survivability would depend on how much a species required camouflage and if it made it through the vulnerable parts of its life to survive and spread its genes on.
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Post by dinonikes on Dec 18, 2008 2:30:41 GMT
Imagine how cool a black form of smilodon would look.
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Dec 18, 2008 2:31:30 GMT
I thought I heard somewhere that it was thought that mammoths had a "color gene" similar to ours, and could have hair ranging from brownish to dark brown? then again, I also recall hearing that the reddish hair was due to contamination from the surrounding soil....
Well, that made little sense. I meant to say blondish to dark brown.....
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Post by Tyrannax on Dec 18, 2008 2:34:13 GMT
Imagine what a white Tyrannosaurus with red eyes would look like. That would be incredible.
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Post by Ajax on Dec 18, 2008 2:38:27 GMT
Imagine what a white Tyrannosaurus with red eyes would look like. That would be incredible. I Was gonna say that but i knew you would want too.  |
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Post by crazycrowman on Dec 18, 2008 3:13:45 GMT
Imagine what a white Tyrannosaurus with red eyes would look like. That would be incredible. I imagine if it was a patterned animal, like many albinos today, it would not be snow white, and it might keep the pattern in light pink/yellow across its body if it were marked. It could also just be a slight yellow/pink cast to it. Most albinos are not snow white in color and many are strikingly marked with pink and yellow as well. Yellow is present in albino animals and is sometimes enhanced. Albino animals below -  Albino Kookaburra (hes really really white, but the pink eyes and yellows give away his albino-ism)  Albino Penguin  TRUE albino alligator. Pink eyes, and yellow cast to skin.  Albino Koala (why the dark nose is a mystery to me!) Its a true albino though.  Albino moose.  Albino crow.  Albino Snapping Turtle. (the green on it is algae, not the animals color) If it was leucistic, as in snow white, it would likely have blue or black eyes. - Leucistic animals below - (people COMMONLY mistake the 2 and all over the net you find the 2 mixed up)  Leucistic Humpback  Leucistic Gorilla (commonly called an albino, but he is NOT and I repeat NOT an albino)  Leucistic Great Horn Owl next to normal. (A rare case where the yellow eye color of a normal bird has been retained)  Leucistic Alligator.  Leucistic Lion.  Leucistic (actually a form called "bull or dark eyed) Red tailed Hawk... |
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Post by crazycrowman on Dec 18, 2008 3:32:03 GMT
Some albino reptiles....  Albino Common Iguana.  Albino Sulcata Tortoise  Albino Blue tounge Skink.  Albino Mangrove Monitor.  Albino Red Eared Slider.  Albino Burmese Python  Albino Nelsons Milksnake (notice how red colors are not lost in albinos either, and are sometimes ehanced)  Albino Monocled Cobra  Albino Horned Frog (I used to have one of these - now I just have the normal brown/green form) |
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Post by Ajax on Dec 18, 2008 3:33:29 GMT
They are amazing, I can't see the red tail hawk pic or the turtle but i wanna see them. The Kookaburra is beautiful.
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Post by dinonikes on Dec 18, 2008 3:37:16 GMT
The Field Museum in Chicago used to have a real cool display of taxidermied albino animals. I remember loving that display case when i was a kid. Not too sure if they still have it though- they have been changing so much there in the last ten years or so, and i really don't get down there any more, living out in the burbs like I do.
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Dec 18, 2008 9:44:39 GMT
Imagine what a white Tyrannosaurus with red eyes would look like. That would be incredible. I could get into that. Should it be the 10th anniversary carnegie rex, or the original carnegie rex? The original is missing a toe. Uh, if I paint one albino, would anyone be interested in trading for it? |
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Post by sid on Dec 18, 2008 10:37:57 GMT
The Albino Alligator is beautiful  Anyway,yes,i believe there were some albino dinos |
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