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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jun 30, 2009 20:09:17 GMT
Are any of the Bullylands in 1:30? Sure doesn't seem so. Bully Brach is 1:50.
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Jun 30, 2009 20:51:27 GMT
Bully's new allo worked out to 1/37. A larger 1/40 animal, or a med 1/35 animal. Or, a sub-adult 1/30. All are mostly possible I supose. That stego is not 1/30 either. !/35, maybe, I'd have to measure it out, and am not able to do that right now. We need a list that can be added to, that is separate from all the other posting...
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jun 30, 2009 21:00:42 GMT
Bully's new allo worked out to 1/37. A larger 1/40 animal, or a med 1/35 animal. Or, a sub-adult 1/30. All are mostly possible I supose. That stego is not 1/30 either. !/35, maybe, I'd have to measure it out, and am not able to do that right now. We need a list that can be added to, that is separate from all the other posting... Agreed on the list, how can it be done? Can more than one person have access to modify posts? I'll make a new thread and manage it if that is the way to do it. I could keep it all by brand and people could post in it and I'll add it to the master list. I'm open to suggestions.
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jun 30, 2009 21:06:52 GMT
Bully's new allo worked out to 1/37. A larger 1/40 animal, or a med 1/35 animal. Or, a sub-adult 1/30. All are mostly possible I supose. That stego is not 1/30 either. !/35, maybe, I'd have to measure it out, and am not able to do that right now. We need a list that can be added to, that is separate from all the other posting... Agreed on the list, how can it be done? Can more than one person have access to modify posts? I'll make a new thread and manage it if that is the way to do it. I could keep it all by brand and people could post in it and I'll add it to the master list. I'm open to suggestions. Further thoughts, we would need it to contain: length of figure and length of animal used for scale(which is often subject to interpretation) and both metric and "standard" measurings.
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Jun 30, 2009 21:58:00 GMT
wellif you know how to organize something like that, it would be great. there is sporadic interest in this on and off. I find it interesting anyway.
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jun 30, 2009 22:05:37 GMT
Me too, and it would be cool to have a comprehensive list of all scales. I'll try to figure out the best way to do it, maybe add on to Tyrannax's figure list.
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Post by sauropodlet on Jun 30, 2009 22:41:14 GMT
there is sporadic interest in this on and off. I find it interesting anyway. At the risk of a "me too" post, um, well, me too.
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Post by Ajax on Jul 1, 2009 0:19:47 GMT
Me too, and it would be cool to have a comprehensive list of all scales. I'll try to figure out the best way to do it, maybe add on to Tyrannax's figure list. The best way to make the scale chart would have Teton who was the first to start this thread just keep adding new dinosaurs and scales to his first post untill the list is complete. You guys keep working more out and Teton can add them to his first post.
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jul 1, 2009 0:24:28 GMT
If Tetons up for it, if not I am happy to take the helm.
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Post by Ajax on Jul 1, 2009 0:34:09 GMT
If Tetons up for it, if not I am happy to take the helm. You may need an Admin to let you add to Teton's first post. Call for an Admin,,,,,,,,,,,,ADMIN, ADMIN!
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Post by tomhet on Jul 1, 2009 3:30:56 GMT
Just add them and I will edit teton's original post
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jul 1, 2009 19:52:02 GMT
Sounds good Tomhet, I'll let you know when stuff comes up. Thanks
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Post by sauropodlet on Jul 2, 2009 17:07:15 GMT
I'm happy to measure stuff and do the calculations. I'm severely underemployed at the moment, so my time is largely my own to schedule, as it were... LOL
But I have some questions:
1) shouldn't we all be using the same source for "actual" sizes? Preferably something free and online so it's open to everyone. Preferably NOT Wikipedia since it's only as good as its last edit.
2) are we measuring along the spine or along the ground? And, in general, when one sees a length stat, is that along the spine or along the ground?
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jul 2, 2009 17:15:32 GMT
I think that whatever length referance we use should be placed with the scale of figure so if there is any contention it is documented. I will begin search for comprehensive dino length website. I doubt there will be one be all end all site for this, as I get numerous figures every time I search for a particular length. Also, we could devide up the labor by Brand so eventually we will have all figures scaled. Unsure weather we should place figures in catagory of scale or brand. Might be cool to have everything in its appropriate scale field. Oh, I think most length stats are for the spine.
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jul 2, 2009 17:32:27 GMT
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Post by sbell on Jul 2, 2009 17:40:00 GMT
In general, the best way to avoid issues is to state the source for the data. This way, if someone disagrees with a length, at least they know where you got it (maybe there is no info they weren't aware of; maybe they found something very new you didn't know about).
The other thing to keep in mind with scales is that most animals have a range of size--so it may be possible to give different scales for the same figure.
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jul 2, 2009 17:48:32 GMT
The other thing to keep in mind with scales is that most animals have a range of size--so it may be possible to give different scales for the same figure. True, but I assume that most toys are created to be Max size unless indicated baby or adolescent. We could do it so there is scale listings for age of said dino. Although there is most likely contention as to the growth rates regarding age. Example,(not real calculations) papo allo Baby 1:10 juvinile 1:16 adolescent 1:20 sub adult 1:30 Full Grown 1:40 Pretty cool idea, but we will see if that is shared among members
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Post by Radman on Jul 2, 2009 18:07:39 GMT
The other thing to keep in mind with scales is that most animals have a range of size--so it may be possible to give different scales for the same figure. True, but I assume that most toys are created to be Max size unless indicated baby or adolescent. We could do it so there is scale listings for age of said dino. Although there is most likely contention as to the growth rates regarding age. Example,(not real calculations) papo allo Baby 1:10 juvinile 1:16 adolescent 1:20 sub adult 1:30 Full Grown 1:40 Pretty cool idea, but we will see if that is shared among members One other thing to keep in mind, is that except for the Battat models and the ubiquitous T. rex, most replicas are not identified to the species level. So is our new Procon Lambeosaur L. lambei or L. laticaudus? As was pointed out in another thread, these species were vastly different in size. I'm sure there are similar examples in other genera as well.
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jul 2, 2009 18:17:23 GMT
True, but I assume that most toys are created to be Max size unless indicated baby or adolescent. We could do it so there is scale listings for age of said dino. Although there is most likely contention as to the growth rates regarding age. Example,(not real calculations) papo allo Baby 1:10 juvinile 1:16 adolescent 1:20 sub adult 1:30 Full Grown 1:40 Pretty cool idea, but we will see if that is shared among members One other thing to keep in mind, is that except for the Battat models and the ubiquitous T. rex, most replicas are not identified to the species level. So is our new Procon Lambeosaur L. lambei or L. laticaudus? As was pointed out in another thread, these species were vastly different in size. I'm sure there are similar examples in other genera as well. Good point. In one of my previous messages I did just that, gave the scale for both Lambeos in referance to the Collecta one. Again we could post scale for all species (if that info is given it will make it easier). Man, what a cool project. I'll start with the Collecta line and anyone else can pick a line. Get to work people!
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Post by sbell on Jul 2, 2009 18:19:38 GMT
The other thing to keep in mind with scales is that most animals have a range of size--so it may be possible to give different scales for the same figure. True, but I assume that most toys are created to be Max size unless indicated baby or adolescent. We could do it so there is scale listings for age of said dino. Although there is most likely contention as to the growth rates regarding age. Example,(not real calculations) papo allo Baby 1:10 juvinile 1:16 adolescent 1:20 sub adult 1:30 Full Grown 1:40 Pretty cool idea, but we will see if that is shared among members I wasn't even thinking in terms of allometry--after all, physical proportions are often very different between juveniles and adults, etc. But there are some species that can range so vastly (or whose measurements are so contentious) that a single figure could easily work out to be 1:40, 1:30 or 1:25. As an example I am thinking of the Procon Sarcosuchus--sure, SuperCroc is huge, but there are smaller specimens.
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