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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jul 2, 2009 18:25:45 GMT
^Agreed, which is where the reference to source comes into critical play. I'm sure that some scales posted will be disagreed upon.
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Post by Radman on Jul 2, 2009 18:44:33 GMT
One other thing to keep in mind, is that except for the Battat models and the ubiquitous T. rex, most replicas are not identified to the species level. So is our new Procon Lambeosaur L. lambei or L. laticaudus? As was pointed out in another thread, these species were vastly different in size. I'm sure there are similar examples in other genera as well. Good point. In one of my previous messages I did just that, gave the scale for both Lambeos in referance to the Collecta one. Again we could post scale for all species (if that info is given it will make it easier). Man, what a cool project. I'll start with the Collecta line and anyone else can pick a line. Get to work people! On the other hand, you could just use the "type" species, or best known/characterized as the reference. So for Allosaurus it would be A. fragilis, Lambeosaurus - L. lambei, Pteranodon - P. sternbergi, Tyrannosaurus - T. rex (duh), and so on. Although there are probably some cases where the "type" species is in debate. Anyway, have fun with it ;D
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Post by sbell on Jul 2, 2009 19:06:33 GMT
Good point. In one of my previous messages I did just that, gave the scale for both Lambeos in referance to the Collecta one. Again we could post scale for all species (if that info is given it will make it easier). Man, what a cool project. I'll start with the Collecta line and anyone else can pick a line. Get to work people! On the other hand, you could just use the "type" species, or best known/characterized as the reference. So for Allosaurus it would be A. fragilis, Lambeosaurus - L. lambei, Pteranodon - P. sternbergi, Tyrannosaurus - T. rex (duh), and so on. Although there are probably some cases where the "type" species is in debate. Anyway, have fun with it ;D Extending from that--you could use the measurements based on the holotypes of each species (as opposed to the genotypes, which is what you describe). In other words, there are lots of ways to do it, and lots of ways to start friendly arguments!
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jul 2, 2009 19:10:01 GMT
well, i'm going with generic estimated lengths for now. If a species comes into contention we can allways change anything. The only thing perminant about science is impermanance.
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Post by sauropodlet on Jul 2, 2009 20:12:49 GMT
I'll start with the Collecta line and anyone else can pick a line. Get to work people! I own roughly 80% of the Schleich and Bullyland lines. Otherwise I only really pick up stuff in my "categories," ornithopods and sauropods...
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jul 2, 2009 20:23:46 GMT
OK, The Collecta series totally unofficial scale! Feel free to correct anything on this post as i only did rough estimates based on different websites. If there was a huge gap in size I went right down the middle. This is only intended for fun so don't freak out if my lengths of animal are off, just correct me. Hope to see the rest of the toy lines here soon. Figures are estimated length of animal and estimated scale.
Velociraptor 2.7m 1:20 T Rex 13m 1:76 Trike 8.5m !/45 Stego 9m 1:58 Pteranodon (wingspan) 7m 1:43 Eustreptospondylus 4.5m 1:35 Agustinia 15m 1:78 Neovenator 7.5m 1:53 Baryonyx 8.5m 1:44 Allosaurus 9m 1:58 Brachiosaurus 25m 1:135 Spinosaurus 17m 1:109 Dilophosaurus 6m 1:60 Hydrotherosaurus 13m 1:65 Parasaurolophus 9m 1:75 Ankylosaurus 7.5m 1:48 Iguanodon 10m 1:66 Styracosaurus 5.5m 1:40 Amargasaurus 10m 1:60 Becklespinax 8m 1:47 Lexovisaurus 5m 1:38 Nothronychus 5m 1:40 Olorotitan 12m 1:82 Pachyrhinosaurus 5.5m 1:42 Shunosaurus 10m 1:60 Liopleurodon 10m 1:58 Ouranosaurus 7m 1:45 Polacanthus 4.5m 1:32 Rebbachisaurus 20m 1:108 Dracorex 3m 1:33 Cetiosaurus 18m 1:81 Alioramus 5.5m 1:35 Smilodon 2m 1:17 Mammoth 3.5m 1:20 Wuerhosaurus 6m 1:42 Gigantoraptor 8m 1:60 Rhoetosaurus 13m 1:100 Chasmosaurus 5.5m 1:42 Megalosaurus 9m 1:64 Corythosaurus 10m 1:80 Lambeosaurus (L. lambei) 1:57 (L. laticaudus) 1:92 Tylosaurus 15m 1:92 Sarcosuchus 12m 1:60 Muttaburrasaurus 8m 1:53 Tarbosaurus 11m 1:66 Psittacosaurus 2m 1:17 Achelosaurus 6m 1:40 Tenontosaurus 7m 1:48
DELUXE Agustinia 15m 1:38 Ankylosaurus 7.5m 1:30 Baryonyx 8.5m 1:32 Pteranodon(wingspan) 7m 1:20 Spinosaurus 17m 1:53 Rex 13m 1:44 Hylaeosaurus 7.6m 1:30 Nigersaurus 9m 1:28 Paraceratherium 8m 1:40 Paralititan 26m 1:104 Scelidosaurus 4m 1:17 Stegosaurus 9m 1:35
Phew!
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Post by Radman on Jul 2, 2009 20:47:45 GMT
OK, The Collecta series totally unofficial scale! Feel free to correct anything on this post as i only did rough estimates based on different websites. If there was a huge gap in size I went right down the middle. This is only intended for fun so don't freak out if my lengths of animal are off, just correct me. Hope to see the rest of the toy lines here soon. Figures are estimated length of animal and estimated scale. Velociraptor 2.7m 1:20 T Rex 13m 1:76 Trike 8.5m !/45 Stego 9m 1:58 Pteranodon (wingspan) 5m 1:30 Eustreptospondylus 4.5m 1:35 Agustinia 15m 1:78 Neovenator 7.5m 1:53 Baryonyx 8.5m 1:44 Allosaurus 9m 1:58 Brachiosaurus 25m 1:135 Spinosaurus 17m 1:109 Dilophosaurus 6m 1:60 Hydrotherosaurus 13m 1:65 Parasaurolophus 9m 1:75 Ankylosaurus 7.5m 1:48 Iguanodon 10m 1:66 Styracosaurus 5.5m 1:57 Amargasaurus 10m 1:60 Becklespinax 8m 1:47 Lexovisaurus 5m 1:38 Nothronychus 5m 1:40 Olorotitan 12m 1:82 Pachyrhinosaurus 5.5m 1:42 Shunosaurus 10m 1:60 Liopleurodon 10m 1:58 Ouranosaurus 7m 1:45 Polacanthus 4.5m 1:32 Rebbachisaurus 20m 1:108 Dracorex 10m 1:111 Cetiosaurus 18m 1:81 Alioramus 5.5m 1:35 Smilodon 2m 1:17 Mammoth 3.5m 1:20 Wuerhosaurus 6m 1:42 Gigantoraptor 8m 1:60 Rhoetosaurus 13m 1:100 Chasmosaurus 5.5m 1:42 Megalosaurus 9m 1:64 Corythosaurus 10m 1:80 Lambeosaurus (L. lambei) 1:57 (L. laticaudus) 1:92 Tylosaurus 15m 1:92 Sarcosuchus 12m 1:60 Muttaburrasaurus 8m 1:53 Tarbosaurus 11m 1:66 Psittacosaurus 2m 1:17 Achelosaurus 6m 1:40 Tenontosaurus 7m 1:48 DELUXE Agustinia 15m 1:38 Ankylosaurus 7.5m 1:30 Baryonyx 8.5m 1:32 Pteranodon(wingspan) 5m 1:13 Spinosaurus 17m 1:53 Rex 13m 1:44 Hylaeosaurus 7.6m 1:30 Nigersaurus 9m 1:28 Paraceratherium 8m 1:40 Paralititan 26m 1:104 Scelidosaurus 4m 1:17 Stegosaurus 9m 1:35 Phew! Cool! That's alotta measuring that I'm sure will provoke some discussion. My only (okay, first) nitpick is Dracorex. I think it's only 10 feet, not meters, so scale would be more like 1:30. Anyway, way to go!
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jul 2, 2009 21:19:52 GMT
Dracorex fixed. whoops.
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Post by sbell on Jul 2, 2009 21:31:59 GMT
Poor Dracorex. Now we know why there aren't anymore ;D
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Post by sauropodlet on Jul 2, 2009 21:59:00 GMT
Poor Dracorex. Now we know why there aren't anymore ;D So now we have it from a paleontologist; the K/T Event was a massive, worldwide trip to the vet's office. I look forward to reading the article in Nature.
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Post by Ajax on Jul 3, 2009 0:26:48 GMT
I think the CollectA Styracosaurus is bigger than 1/57, I know its in a strange pose but its the same size as the Carnegie which is scaled at 1/40, also same size as the Battat. I think its body is slightly scrunched up because of its stance.
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jul 3, 2009 0:31:41 GMT
Ajax you are right. Styraco fixed.
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Jul 3, 2009 1:56:50 GMT
Although, don't assume Carnegie's is spot on, they are often wrong too. I don't know about Battat, we should check some of them. I think we should do the diplo first, so in the name of science, someone needs to mail me their diplo so I can work out the scale...... ;D
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jul 3, 2009 2:04:01 GMT
Poor Dracorex. Now we know why there aren't anymore ;D "Clever girl" Good to see a creative thinker on the loose.
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Post by Ajax on Jul 3, 2009 2:07:01 GMT
Although, don't assume Carnegie's is spot on, they are often wrong too. I don't know about Battat, we should check some of them. I think we should do the diplo first, so in the name of science, someone needs to mail me their diplo so I can work out the scale...... ;D ;D Good Idea, I also need one to double check Teton's measurements.
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jul 3, 2009 2:14:13 GMT
I'll cut mine in half and mail you each a piece. Ok?
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Post by Ajax on Jul 3, 2009 2:38:30 GMT
I'll cut mine in half and mail you each a piece. Ok? I call the top half,
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Post by sauropodlet on Jul 3, 2009 15:43:26 GMT
I won't be able to get to most of the rest until Monday, but I'll have the Battat diplo data up in an hour or two.
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Jul 3, 2009 16:25:12 GMT
Show off !! ;D
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Post by sauropodlet on Jul 4, 2009 0:17:23 GMT
The Battat Diplodocus is 30.5 inches (77 cm) from nose to tail tip, along the spine with a string and four hands holding it flush; as close as you're likely to get. The MNH website gives the length as 26 m (85.3 feet). If you don't like this figure, at least now you have a length on the figure and can do 30 seconds of calculations. 85.3 feet x12 = 1032.6 in. 1/33.5
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