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Post by Dinotoyforum on Jan 30, 2008 19:34:37 GMT
I just rented it from the DVD store...somehow I've never seen it...
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Post by EmperorDinobot on Jan 30, 2008 20:42:55 GMT
You're not missing much. But then again, I'm biased.
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Jan 30, 2008 20:53:42 GMT
You're not missing much. But then again, I'm biased. Biased in what way? Were you fired from the BBC? Are you model making skills superior ;D
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Post by tomhet on Jan 31, 2008 18:30:41 GMT
Walking with Monsters has been my favourite BBC release so far but I loved Chased by Sea Monsters as well.
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Jan 31, 2008 18:55:34 GMT
I think the series have different names in different part of the world? My favourite is still the Cruel Sea episode in the original. I think they started to go downhill when Nigel Marven (who I have met by the way got involved. I like the simplcity of the original format, although the benefit of having a human alongide means you get a real good sense of scale. Walking with Cavemen was fine - I was surprised there were only four episodes. The costumes look a little rubbery, and as usual for 'Walking With', no clear line was drawn between what was based on evidence and what is made up. Nevertheless, the program cleared up some popular misconceptions, notably that taken as a whole, human evolution isn't a simple march of progress, different species of hominid lived alongside each other, many becoming extinct without leaving descendents. I'm glad i saw it anyway
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Post by piltdown on Feb 1, 2008 1:10:04 GMT
Heh, I am probably the only person who doesn't give much thought to the origins of Homo sapiens sapiens [sic] I'd rather deal with just the proper members of the Dinosauria (to which Class Aves most certainly does not belong, despite persistent rumours to the contrary ;D ) I do wish BBC would release a proper sequel to Walking with Dinosaurs featuring dinosaurs. I liked the amphibians and fish and tetrapods of Before the Dinosaurs: Walking with Monsters, but I still prefer seeing the thyreophorans ;D And Nigel Marven--well, Chased by Sea Monsters and The Giant Claw (which featured mercifully a featherless therizinosaur, although they committed a grave error cardinal sin in putting feathers on Mononykus, since the Alvarezsaurids are definitely not birds but theropods) are not quite as convincing as the original WwD, but it was fun--Thorondor and I always refer to him as Mr Kerfuffle ;D Poor Nigel was less convincing in Prehistoric Park, because the hour-long episode format allowed for too much padding and because of the numerous fuzzy dinosaurs [sic] flapping and running about ;D
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Post by EmperorDinobot on Feb 1, 2008 1:37:33 GMT
You're not missing much. But then again, I'm biased. Biased in what way? Were you fired from the BBC? Are you model making skills superior ;D Biased as in I only care about the history of Earth up until the end of the Cretaceous period. Mammals really don't interest me. Especially monkey-men. It's just sort of boring and I don't like staring at their gigantic zygomatic arches all day long, either. Bring on the dinosaurs!! Down with the humans. ;D So don't take my comments seriously on "you're not missing much", coz it's all too interesting. Just too many gaps.
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Feb 1, 2008 10:45:41 GMT
Emp , I know what you mean because up until recently, I felt the same. I would always avoid human or mammal units on my degree courses in favour of reptile units. Due to lack of interest, I have almost no mammal toys, and had never seen WWCavemen before yesterday. I started getting more interested in human evolution after reading 'the Ancestor's Tale', but the Cenozoic all seems a bit too close and familiar. Ironically, my first ever Invicta toy was a mammoth..but thats a different story
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Post by EmperorDinobot on Feb 1, 2008 22:05:06 GMT
Close and familiar. Precisely. Eventually I'll have to see it. We have Lucy in the museum right now. I don't wanna see her. I feel I'm defiling her and paying for some fossil business thing that I find unethical and wrong...
I like staring at their large zygomatic arches, though. It's amusing. I wish I had large cheeks like that.
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Dec 21, 2008 10:49:06 GMT
I liked all of the series, myself. I had them all on dvd too, but sold them when we were hurting for cash. I may have to pick them up again. I do have the Ultimate dino set, with WwD, WwMonsters, Big Al, and the chased by series. So, the cavemen and mammals are the ones I need, I suppose. The caveman thing sometimes creeps me out a bit. They start looking too human, and I get shivers. As, I suppose the actors must have, once the costumes went extinct, for a while.....
And yea, I am dredging up old threads. It is 4 am here, and there is not a lot of activity at night, so I have time to read the old stuff more thoroughly. And I feel comfy enough here now that I am responding to more threads and people.
Unlucky you guys, more of the Teton......Hey, I don't just paint all the time...
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Post by sbell on Dec 21, 2008 14:22:10 GMT
I liked all of the series, myself. I had them all on dvd too, but sold them when we were hurting for cash. I may have to pick them up again. I do have the Ultimate dino set, with WwD, WwMonsters, Big Al, and the chased by series. So, the cavemen and mammals are the ones I need, I suppose. The caveman thing sometimes creeps me out a bit. They start looking too human, and I get shivers. As, I suppose the actors must have, once the costumes went extinct, for a while..... And yea, I am dredging up old threads. It is 4 am here, and there is not a lot of activity at night, so I have time to read the old stuff more thoroughly. And I feel comfy enough here now that I am responding to more threads and people. Unlucky you guys, more of the Teton......Hey, I don't just paint all the time... I think you are describing the Uncanny Valley--it usually describe our visceral reaction to robots or the creepy kids in Polar Express (the movie). The cause has to do with how close they approach human-ness. If they are too close to human, but not quite, your brain starts to pick out the parts that are distinctly not right, and it starts giving you bad feelings. I just read about it a couple days ago--Wikipedia has a pretty good explanation of it.
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Post by giganotoigauana on Dec 21, 2008 17:07:25 GMT
i happen to own a walking with caveman prop head that they were starting to paint but stoped for some reason.
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Dec 21, 2008 17:13:38 GMT
I liked all of the series, myself. I had them all on dvd too, but sold them when we were hurting for cash. I may have to pick them up again. I do have the Ultimate dino set, with WwD, WwMonsters, Big Al, and the chased by series. So, the cavemen and mammals are the ones I need, I suppose. The caveman thing sometimes creeps me out a bit. They start looking too human, and I get shivers. As, I suppose the actors must have, once the costumes went extinct, for a while..... And yea, I am dredging up old threads. It is 4 am here, and there is not a lot of activity at night, so I have time to read the old stuff more thoroughly. And I feel comfy enough here now that I am responding to more threads and people. Unlucky you guys, more of the Teton......Hey, I don't just paint all the time... I think you are describing the Uncanny Valley--it usually describe our visceral reaction to robots or the creepy kids in Polar Express (the movie). The cause has to do with how close they approach human-ness. If they are too close to human, but not quite, your brain starts to pick out the parts that are distinctly not right, and it starts giving you bad feelings. I just read about it a couple days ago--Wikipedia has a pretty good explanation of it. Could be. Those early ape-like cgi ones were really just a little TOO real. I guess that is a compliment to the animators though.....I wonder if there is any sort of subliminal "race memory" type of thing going on there. Humans and neanderthals coexisted for a time, right?
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Post by therizinosaurus on Dec 21, 2008 17:16:01 GMT
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Dec 21, 2008 17:28:35 GMT
Hmmmm. Maybe there is a built in distrust there, or for anything that looks like us but isn't quite. interesting thought. ( to me, anyway ). I remember when I first watched it, thinking that those early apemen cgi's reminded me a lot of the bigfoot sightings and descriptions. Just a thought that passed through my mind... Now, we are NOT gonna start a cryptid thing here...it was just creepy is all..
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Post by stoneage on Dec 22, 2008 23:06:10 GMT
There really not sure if Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals could interbreed and if they did wheather their offspring could reproduce. ;D
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