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Post by Horridus on Feb 11, 2011 0:37:27 GMT
So, how's that the precolumbian people couldn't build the pyramids by their own? Were they so retarded, or monkey-like or what? Of course they were able to build them by their own. Also were able to achieve a so amazing knowledge on astronomy and maths, without computers or high-tech. They had the brain, the instinct, and the open mind. And the peyote. Absolutely. Since this is a relevant topic, I think we can open this whole can o' worms again - humanity is truly remarkable as a species. Not AS remarkable as we may have thought in the past (ie. we ARE primates, and do act according to our heritage on occasion) but still remarkable.
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Post by Horridus on Feb 11, 2011 1:13:16 GMT
Why do you think so?
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Post by simon on Feb 11, 2011 1:16:09 GMT
I believe atlantis existed as well as global civilization and it has been thrown out of the text books Atlantis was, almost certainly, the lost Minoan civilization of Crete that once dominated the Mediterranean. It was blown away by the Santorini volcanic eruption and subsequent tsunamis around the 17th century BC. Wiki link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_eruption
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Post by Permiantriassic on Feb 11, 2011 1:16:29 GMT
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Post by darwinian on Feb 13, 2011 18:14:21 GMT
So your saying they are being unethical? Anyway that was on history channels ancient aliens History channel (and most TV channels) are notoriously unethical when it comes to ratings. Look at Monster Quest. See what the experts appear to say, and then see what they say when their words are neither scripted nor edited. The reason is "Is there a big foot?" "No." isn't long enough to get in a commercial.
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Post by darwinian on Feb 13, 2011 18:15:40 GMT
I believe atlantis existed as well as global civilization and it has been thrown out of the text books I believe I am the pinnacle of evolution. That never made it into the textbooks.
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Post by darwinian on Feb 13, 2011 18:18:04 GMT
I hope you are careful with your internet security, because speaking these sorts of things can draw all sorts of attention from the powers that be, and we all know what they do to keep the truth hidden. At the very least this thread will be deleted within a week - I guarantee it.
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Post by foxilized on Feb 13, 2011 18:34:57 GMT
I hope you are careful with your internet security, because speaking these sorts of things can draw all sorts of attention from the powers that be, and we all know what they do to keep the truth hidden. At the very least this thread will be deleted within a week - I guarantee it. Hey, can you say those lines with a Darth-Vader voice?
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Post by sbell on Feb 13, 2011 18:46:39 GMT
I hope you are careful with your internet security, because speaking these sorts of things can draw all sorts of attention from the powers that be, and we all know what they do to keep the truth hidden. At the very least this thread will be deleted within a week - I guarantee it. We probably won't delete it--but anyone that understands basic geology will know why there cannot be a 'continent' there--the mid-Atlantic is bisected by the mid-Atlantic ridge, where molten magma rises up, out of a ridge in the ocean floor, and causes the sea floor to spread. No continent there, just a wide plain of fresh sea floor--that is of the same age and magnetic signature on both sides. Atlantis, if it is at all real, probably referred to an island in the Mediterranean that went under the water after an earthquake or volcanic event. That's assuming it wasn't just some sort of literary device.
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Post by paleofreak on Feb 13, 2011 22:40:22 GMT
We probably won't delete it No, but they will. ;D
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Post by darwinian on Feb 14, 2011 5:47:43 GMT
The cone-heads of these skulls were related to meso-american corn gods. Mayans they used to modify the skulls of the noble babies using wood plates so they got that shape. So the rulers and high shamans had the head with a corn shape because the corn was the main food source of the population (they were a lot!) and their lifes depended on it. So they needed to be sure a concrete amount of corn was about to grow. If the shamans and rulers had a direct connection with the corn spirits, then they surely had power to assure a good harvest. Natural forces like rain were also crucial to assure a good harvest, reason why the "water shamans" became so powerful in the last years of the Mayan. In times of severe drought, many people suffered and died of hunger so they started to sacrifice a few chosen persons throwing them to the cenotes, where they died drown, as a gift to Chac (god of rain). The purpose was Chac to give them the rain back. Mayans identified water as the blood of Chac, reason why they gave him human blood by change. They were desperate. It's not like they enjoyed sacrificing people cause they were crazy psycho sadists like they love to depict them in movies today. I consider that depiction a huge lack of respect and also a pretty ignorant and arrogant view of these cultures. Of course they could have used human sacrifices to assure political power, and also they were violent warriors and practiced slavery to the others they subjugated. But that happened only in certain times and places and sadly today that has been taken as definitory of all these cultures as violence-based. It's like if an alien archeologist from the future researched on European history and defined us by Hitler and Nazi fascism. The point to all this is that we tend to look at these ancient cultures and remains from a very, very, very limited point of view and of course many many things look "alien" to us. So "alien" that sometimes one thinks they are actually, literally, alien. There have been a lot of TV programs and books and magazines in Spain from the 70's to today talking about the subject, of Aliens helping ancient precolumbian cultures to develop their knowledge and build the pyramids. I don't deny the existence of alien beings, indeed I pretty much believe they exist and all. But I consider a mistake trying to explain mysteries of humanity's past through aliens. It's like denying our amazing potential. So, how's that the precolumbian people couldn't build the pyramids by their own? Were they so retarded, or monkey-like or what? Of course they were able to build them by their own. Also were able to achieve a so amazing knowledge on astronomy and maths, without computers or high-tech. They had the brain, the instinct, and the open mind. And the peyote. I think most reasonable people have an open mind when it comes to the possibility of intelligent alien life. The real question is whether they spend their holidays coming to Earth giving free prostate exams.
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Post by Horridus on Feb 14, 2011 16:55:40 GMT
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Post by darwinian on Feb 15, 2011 22:42:24 GMT
Yeah, but could he dunk? I think not. Homo sapiens FTW!
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Post by Radman on Feb 15, 2011 22:47:12 GMT
I would be amazed if any reader of this forum could dunk.
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Post by Horridus on Feb 15, 2011 22:58:28 GMT
I would be amazed if any reader of this forum could dunk. You'd be surprised - it turns out that not everyone who collects dinosaur models is a nerdy weakling. Although I am.
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Post by Himmapaan on Feb 15, 2011 23:05:32 GMT
I would be amazed if any reader of this forum could dunk. Only if it involves a biscuit and a cup of chocolate for me.
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Post by Horridus on Feb 15, 2011 23:16:45 GMT
Niroot wins.
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Post by Himmapaan on Feb 16, 2011 0:01:50 GMT
;D Also, Nerdy weaklings FTW! ;D
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Post by simon on Feb 16, 2011 1:24:47 GMT
I would be amazed if any reader of this forum could dunk. You'd be surprised - it turns out that not everyone who collects dinosaur models is a nerdy weakling. Although I am. *Chuckle*, Well, I never had much lift, but I used to be able to hit a baseball 400 feet once upon a time. Will that do?
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Post by Megaraptor on Feb 16, 2011 9:03:36 GMT
The cone-heads of these skulls were related to meso-american corn gods. Mayans they used to modify the skulls of the noble babies using wood plates so they got that shape. So the rulers and high shamans had the head with a corn shape because the corn was the main food source of the population (they were a lot!) and their lifes depended on it. So they needed to be sure a concrete amount of corn was about to grow. If the shamans and rulers had a direct connection with the corn spirits, then they surely had power to assure a good harvest. Natural forces like rain were also crucial to assure a good harvest, reason why the "water shamans" became so powerful in the last years of the Mayan. In times of severe drought, many people suffered and died of hunger so they started to sacrifice a few chosen persons throwing them to the cenotes, where they died drown, as a gift to Chac (god of rain). The purpose was Chac to give them the rain back. Mayans identified water as the blood of Chac, reason why they gave him human blood by change. They were desperate. It's not like they enjoyed sacrificing people cause they were crazy psycho sadists like they love to depict them in movies today. I consider that depiction a huge lack of respect and also a pretty ignorant and arrogant view of these cultures. Of course they could have used human sacrifices to assure political power, and also they were violent warriors and practiced slavery to the others they subjugated. But that happened only in certain times and places and sadly today that has been taken as definitory of all these cultures as violence-based. It's like if an alien archeologist from the future researched on European history and defined us by Hitler and Nazi fascism. The point to all this is that we tend to look at these ancient cultures and remains from a very, very, very limited point of view and of course many many things look "alien" to us. So "alien" that sometimes one thinks they are actually, literally, alien. There have been a lot of TV programs and books and magazines in Spain from the 70's to today talking about the subject, of Aliens helping ancient precolumbian cultures to develop their knowledge and build the pyramids. I don't deny the existence of alien beings, indeed I pretty much believe they exist and all. But I consider a mistake trying to explain mysteries of humanity's past through aliens. It's like denying our amazing potential. So, how's that the precolumbian people couldn't build the pyramids by their own? Were they so retarded, or monkey-like or what? Of course they were able to build them by their own. Also were able to achieve a so amazing knowledge on astronomy and maths, without computers or high-tech. They had the brain, the instinct, and the open mind. And the peyote. Well done Foxillized!!! Respect for you=skyrocketing. And Permiantriassic, there's this thing called faking a map. And another thing, what the hell is "Mu" and why is it where Australia is meant to be? Severely idiotic theory.
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