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Post by tanystropheus on Dec 12, 2011 14:07:02 GMT
And here it is next to the original. They are both about the same size and more or less share the same proportions: I'm torn on which I like more, personally. I think they look good together. You have absolutely no idea how epic this picture looks with the two Rexes side-by-side (just imagine this very pic w/o the tags). It's like a scene taken out of "the Lost World" ;D
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Post by sbell on Dec 12, 2011 14:18:02 GMT
Hey guys, that T.rex is amazing! I just don't get what most of you guys want in toys? I know that 15 - 20 years ago figures that weren't half as good as this T.rex were being sold as museum line pieces and every dino collector was happy with them. Now seems that Papo finally heard and considered our claims for a new reposed T.rex and you guys get nitpicky? Look how awesome that beast is! As blade said, you can pretend it's an old sick individual. What's the point of collecting if every figure represents a perfect animal? As far as I remember everyone was happy with collecta taking risks and making dead animals, families... someone have to make some sick ones too! And who better than Papo to add so much character in a rex... Despite the long arms, that T.rex really looks like a T.rex, no one can say otherwise. Actually, I think it's just me who hates him and who has been harshly critiquing him. Maybe I would have felt more forgiving if it were not for my recent string of disappointments with Papo. Since 2010 their only really amazing releases have been the pachyrhino and the styrac, and perhaps their decent attempt at an ankliosaurid last year. But then we have to put up with a featherless egg-stealing oviraptor, nessie, an awful velociraptor repaint, a half-arsed smilodon, and this thing they are calling a "tylosaurus". Now they top it all off with a JP rex/V-rex chimera. I'm just not seeing the leaps and bounds in quality and accuracy that I was hoping for when they released the pachyrhino. I was really hoping for something a little more... awe-inspiring... than this, by now. And I was certainly hoping for more than 1 theropod since 2009. Don't get me wrong, the new rex is a great "movie-monster" figure, but it's just not what I was hoping for given Papo's potential. I can honestly say I will never buy this figure. It's just too much movie-monster. For me, Papo is often hit or ignore, and most of the time I ignore them (despite having a nearby store where I can get all of them).
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Post by pylraster on Dec 12, 2011 14:30:28 GMT
Inaccuracies aside, it's still a nice dinosaur figure. The simple solution would be "if you don't like it, don't buy it."
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Post by lucidstillness on Dec 12, 2011 15:31:58 GMT
Wow, I love that Rex! I'll definitely be getting it the moment I see it. What's Mastermind Toys exactly? Where are you from, lucidstillness? I could understand this being already available in France (like the Tylosaurus). Oh, I should have mentioned that; Mastermind Toys is a newer Canada chain of stores that sells primarily educational toys and books. You can check out their website here: www.mastermindtoys.com/They still don't have the new Rex up on their site though.
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Post by postsaurischian on Dec 12, 2011 16:11:40 GMT
..... I like the new Paporex ---- sorry, purists. My childish motivated hands will probably ignore the orders of my brain's paleontologically educated part while pressing the 'buy' button ;D.
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Post by roselaar on Dec 12, 2011 16:43:08 GMT
Wow, I love that Rex! I'll definitely be getting it the moment I see it. What's Mastermind Toys exactly? Where are you from, lucidstillness? I could understand this being already available in France (like the Tylosaurus). Oh, I should have mentioned that; Mastermind Toys is a newer Canada chain of stores that sells primarily educational toys and books. You can check out their website here: www.mastermindtoys.com/They still don't have the new Rex up on their site though. Thanks for the info! First appearance in Canada, that's odd. You'd think it would be in France as always. I doubt this will be some sort of 'Mastermind Toys only' figure though, that's not Papo's style so far.
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Post by sid on Dec 12, 2011 17:32:33 GMT
You have absolutely no idea how epic this picture looks with the two Rexes side-by-side (just imagine this very pic w/o the tags). It's like a scene taken out of "the Lost World" ;D Yep, that's right! And, seriously... Everyone has tastes, some like Papo while others don't but please, PLEASE, could you make me the favor to not use the term "movie monsters" anymore regarding JP-saurs? It always irks me whenever i hear it! Maybe (probably) it's just my JP fanboy-ism that talks, but it would be more correct to call 'em "movie animals"... As i said so many times, "monsters" are creatures which are absolutely NOT based on real creatures, like Xenomorphs, demons, eldritch abominations and such... Heck, even when some people call King Kong a monster it annoys me to no end!
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Post by hkhollinstone on Dec 12, 2011 17:41:43 GMT
..... I like the new Paporex Me too, he's just fantastic!
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Post by sbell on Dec 12, 2011 17:56:15 GMT
You have absolutely no idea how epic this picture looks with the two Rexes side-by-side (just imagine this very pic w/o the tags). It's like a scene taken out of "the Lost World" ;D Yep, that's right! And, seriously... Everyone has tastes, some like Papo while others don't but please, PLEASE, could you make me the favor to not use the term "movie monsters" anymore regarding JP-saurs? It always irks me whenever i hear it! Maybe (probably) it's just my JP fanboy-ism that talks, but it would be more correct to call 'em "movie animals"... As i said so many times, "monsters" are creatures which are absolutely NOT based on real creatures, like Xenomorphs, demons, eldritch abominations and such... Heck, even when some people call King Kong a monster it annoys me to no end! And a movie monster is something that while based on reality was altered for a movie for effect (or poor decision making). Therefore, a toy based on one of those is a movie monster. Therefore, many Papo figures are movie monster toys.
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Post by Himmapaan on Dec 12, 2011 17:56:55 GMT
Oh, for pity's sake.
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Post by simon on Dec 12, 2011 17:59:34 GMT
Horribly well done, isn't it? (The emphasis being on "horrible"). You know, the more I look at it, the more PO'd I get about the wasted opportunity. They COULD have made an anatomically correct Trex that would have been EPIC. Instead they gave the sculptor the body of the '98 Godzilla figure and the head of Jackson's V-Rex and said "here's something to make your work easier." The very fact that it is so well done, and so well detailed in its ... INACCURACY - ah well. Papo is now going on my Blacklist. I shan't discuss them again.
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Post by lucidstillness on Dec 12, 2011 18:07:07 GMT
I think it's fair to say that, while Papo's dinosaurs aren't all the most scientifically accurate, they are still more accurate than a lot of dinosaur toys kids will play with. You can still find the good old tail-dragging dinosaurs at every dollar store around the world.
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Post by dinodinkies on Dec 12, 2011 18:20:07 GMT
I think it's fair to say that, while Papo's dinosaurs aren't all the most scientifically accurate, they are still more accurate than a lot of dinosaur toys kids will play with. You can still find the good old tail-dragging dinosaurs at every dollar store around the world. I love it my other papo rex needs some company. But very unpapo to release it first outside France. Hope it will get soon abroad.
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Post by pawnosuchus on Dec 12, 2011 18:33:04 GMT
I certainly understand the "if you don't like it, don't buy it" mentality, but there is a little more to it. Looking at it from a selfish perspective (I'm very good at that) if I can convince others not to buy a Papo (or any other company) animal that I don't like, low sales may cause that company to reconsider and re-do its Trex so it's arms don't reach down to it's knees.
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Post by takama on Dec 12, 2011 19:11:37 GMT
Thanks guys! You're welcome. The new one's lower jaw is a little bit bulkier than the original. Here it is from the side with its mouth closed: And here it is next to the original. They are both about the same size and more or less share the same proportions: I'm torn on which I like more, personally. I think they look good together. Well i am surprised. I'm loving the new papo T-Rex However, I wish that it kept the same coler scheme as the first one. Oh well Looks like Mama is sitten over the eggs while daddy goes and hunt for some food
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Post by Trexroarr on Dec 12, 2011 19:12:42 GMT
Must we have this conversation EVERYTIME a new Papo figure is revealed?!
"Now what John Hammond and Ingen did at Jurassic Park was create genetically engineered theme park monsters. Nothing more, and nothing less." ~ Dr. Alan Grant (Jurassic Park 3)
Papo figures are NOT supposed to be accurate so don't judge them by saying that they aren't accurate! If you don't like it, don't buy it, but don't judge others for liking something that you don't.
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Post by Horridus on Dec 12, 2011 19:29:05 GMT
Papo figures are NOT supposed to be accurate so don't judge them by saying that they aren't accurate! Nah, they don't claim to be 'museum' figures (although one should point out that they are not licensed JP merchandise either - they're shameless knock-offs). However, more 'accurate' dinosaurs tend to look better just through being more accurate. Greg Paul (for it is he) has it right - I forget exactly what he said, but it was something along the lines of 'greater research and attention to detail results in a more aesthetically pleasing result'. As for this new one...well...I wouldn't mind so much if they'd just 'fixed' the posture of the old JP movie monster (yes, they are). However, compare the heads. They've deviated with the head for the new one, and the results are rather ugly. As for something that actually looks like a T. rex, forget it. Just look at the arms. The arms alone! ...I'll probably end up still buying it anyway. It wouldn't be the worst T. rex I own. ;D
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Post by roselaar on Dec 12, 2011 21:05:48 GMT
And a movie monster is something that while based on reality was altered for a movie for effect (or poor decision making). Therefore, a toy based on one of those is a movie monster. Therefore, many Papo figures are movie monster toys. In that case, dinosaur movies don't exist.
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Post by sid on Dec 12, 2011 22:31:00 GMT
And a movie monster is something that while based on reality was altered for a movie for effect (or poor decision making). Therefore, a toy based on one of those is a movie monster. Therefore, many Papo figures are movie monster toys. I disagree. While JP dinos (and many other animals which appeared in movies) more or less deviate from reality (both in the appearance and behavior), they're still restorations of REAL creatures, so it's a bit offensive, at least to me, to call 'em "monsters"... It's just like when someone calls an animal "thing", doesn't sounds right to me However, if we use the term "monster" in its original, more positive meaning, as something spectacular and unusual, well, then JP (and Papo) critters truly are what you keep calling on... ;D
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Post by gwangi on Dec 12, 2011 22:39:22 GMT
I just don't see a reason why any company would deliberately make such an inaccurate representation of something when the real thing is so much more fascinating. I was thinking the same thing when watching Terra Nova. With all the strange prehistoric animals we know of why make fake or inaccurate "monsters" that end up being less interesting than the real thing? I like this Papo rex and will likely get it but if they put their efforts into making accurate dinosaurs they would go unchallenged in the toy department and I think that is what is frustrating about Papo. Movie monsters are great but this rex and the tylo are not even movie monsters, they're just inaccurate toys. This rex does not look like the JP animal and I would actually prefer it if they made it look more like the rex in King Kong. Hell, they could make it look like the rex in the original Kong and I would like it more, at least then there would be something I could relate it to.
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