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Post by kevin on Aug 29, 2009 22:11:35 GMT
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Aug 30, 2009 1:42:21 GMT
Too bad you couldn't fix that neck  Fantastic paintwork sir  |
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Post by kevin on Aug 30, 2009 1:50:54 GMT
Well, it is vinyl, so I suppose if one had the skill, they could heat the neck, making it pliable, and reposition it it. It does join the body at the base, and moving it will mess up the join for the head. I also think that straightening it will destroy the flow, and sense of movement for the piece, it is designed with a definite flow in mind, and I kinda like it like that....
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Aug 30, 2009 2:08:33 GMT
Necks can be held horizontally and have flow  |
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Post by Radman on Aug 30, 2009 3:10:04 GMT
Well, this is a timely thread. 'Cause I've had this beast sitting in a drawer for a few moons, I got it on ebay a while back, I think it said Horizon or JP, for an unreasonably cheap price. But here's the rub - it came without instructions and while it should seem obvious, I don't want to assemble it incorrectly. So, what's the best procedure for removing flash from these - soaking in hot water, then using an exacto? Anyway, here's the pic, with the number as marked on each piece:  flash is numbered 1-head, 2-neck, 3-body ( so far, so good), right front flipper-5, rbf-6, lff7, lbf-4. That doesn't seem logical the way I have it laid out, and all the flippers are slightly different.... anyone who can help me out here, thanks! |
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Post by kevin on Aug 30, 2009 3:57:03 GMT
The one I got from Boki already had the flash cut off, all the wat down. That left gaps to fill on the neck in particular. Heating the vinyl first is best, and a sharp knife. Just cut the flash on the neck in sections, then test fit. Once you get a tight fit, good. But if you go all the way, you cant put it back.
As for the flippers, I had no numbers to go by, but the recieving end on the body, if you look, each one is shaped differently, and will match up to the flipper. Like I said, just go slow, and fit them to the matching end. I asked at the hobby shop about the best adhesive, and they told me to use a med. viscosity superglue. I got it there, so i don't know if it as a local brand or what. The stuff I used was called Mercury adhesives M300M. I am tellin you, after it dries--in seconds--it will NOT break. Not easily, anyway. I also stuffed every piece of the head, neck, and body with newspaper, as tight as it would go, using a brush handle to tamp it all the way down in. Heat can cause warpage in the vinyl, and hollow forms like this can suck in deforming the figure. If tou do a figure with legs, like a trike or rex, or when i was doing them, superheros, you can pour plaster into the legs, which will keep it from warping, and add weight. I primed and painted this one like I would have any other figure. You may well need putty to smooth out the seams too.
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Post by Radman on Aug 30, 2009 4:25:52 GMT
The one I got from Boki already had the flash cut off, all the wat down. That left gaps to fill on the neck in particular. Heating the vinyl first is best, and a sharp knife. Just cut the flash on the neck in sections, then test fit. Once you get a tight fit, good. But if you go all the way, you cant put it back. As for the flippers, I had no numbers to go by, but the recieving end on the body, if you look, each one is shaped differently, and will match up to the flipper. Like I said, just go slow, and fit them to the matching end. I asked at the hobby shop about the best adhesive, and they told me to use a med. viscosity superglue. I got it there, so i don't know if it as a local brand or what. The stuff I used was called Mercury adhesives M300M. I am tellin you, after it dries--in seconds--it will NOT break. Not easily, anyway. I also stuffed every piece of the head, neck, and body with newspaper, as tight as it would go, using a brush handle to tamp it all the way down in. Heat can cause warpage in the vinyl, and hollow forms like this can suck in deforming the figure. If tou do a figure with legs, like a trike or rex, or when i was doing them, superheros, you can pour plaster into the legs, which will keep it from warping, and add weight. I primed and painted this one like I would have any other figure. You may well need putty to smooth out the seams too. Thanks. Kevin! Now that you've mentioned it, it seems obvious that after I cut off the flash, each piece, i.e., flipper, should fit uniquely into each designed receptacle on the body. And I commiserate with you; I have a bad cold and took a 4 hour nap today. Now it's like midnight,; I'm wide awake, wife and kids are asleep and I can't make any noise, SNL is a rerun, I'm down to my last Heineken. I have nothing to read. Suggestions? I do like painting the dinos, I have a Rader camaro project on tap,but I'm just not motivated  Anyway, see y'all in the morning |
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Post by bokisaurus on Aug 30, 2009 5:17:20 GMT
 :oOMG! Wow! You really gave this old guy a brand new life! ;D Amazing work as always Kev I hardly can tell it was the same model that I had for a while  I'm glad that you were able to give him a second chance, and I'm more than glad to give it to yah You really did an amazing job on this one, in fact I think it's one of my favorite piece of yours Cheers! B ;D
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Post by Seijun on Aug 30, 2009 7:26:14 GMT
Too bad you couldn't fix that neck Fantastic paintwork sir What is wrong with its neck...? |
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Post by Megaraptor on Sept 1, 2009 21:38:59 GMT
Too bad you couldn't fix that neck Fantastic paintwork sir What is wrong with its neck...? Plesiosaur necks don't bend that way..... |
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Post by kevin on Sept 1, 2009 22:55:53 GMT
yea, it appears now that they were held out horizontally--and somewhat down?--similar to the new view on sauropod necks. It seems the plesio and elasmo necks were not very flexible at all, and could not be bent up into a swan position, likelt not raised much at all. There is some motion side to side and a bit more downwards, is that right guys?
Howevet, to straighten this neck would be tough. aside from the fact that the head needs to attatch as a separate piece, the sculpt clearly shows a lot of muscle and such at the neck/body join. The angle of the join is clearly upward, so it would look wierd straight after that. Sorta like its neck got broke. Picture cutting off a brachio neck, then reattatching it straight out instead...the angles are just all wrong. Which is why I said the elasmo's flow would be ruined. From tail tip to snout, this sculpt has a movement that is carried through by well defined muscle and bone and skin texture. You can heat up and reposition any part you want, all the details will just be off, and I think the piece would be ruined. It should be looked at these days as a piece of art, not a scientifically accurate representaton, I suppose. Remember, it was put out in 93, and was quite accurate and impressive thewn, and I think she is still a beauty. Named her Ellie. Ellie the Elasmo......
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Post by Meso-Cenozoic on Sept 2, 2009 4:11:18 GMT
OMG, Kevin! Hands down, this is my favorite marine reptile paint job of yours! Spectacular!! I guess it doesn't hurt that the Elasmo is my favorite marine reptile, lol!
I'm glad you explained the building process of this guy. I always thought you were suppose to cut open the holes on the sides and stick the fins, flash and all, in the holes before gluing them. Duh!
I know you have Hans in a pic for size reference, but would you mind taking a pic with some of the other marine reptiles? Maybe at least the Carnegie one. I'm really considering trying to get one of these. But, it seems it might be too big compared to the other 1/40's. Earlier, I think you figured this one was bigger than 1'40's. But, I was wondering if it was unrealistically too much bigger.
Anyway, superb job, man! I could almost trade my Battat Diplo for this one! Almost, hehe!! ;D
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Post by foxilized on Sept 16, 2009 19:02:33 GMT
Wow, beautiful job, Kevin.
Really.
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Post by kevin on Sept 16, 2009 19:08:58 GMT
Thanks. It is a favorite of mine too. Now, to work on the horizon trike. It is way massive and cool. I get it soooooooonnnnn my precioussssss. i hope, anyway
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Post by sid on Sept 27, 2009 18:18:37 GMT
Too bad you couldn't fix that neck Fantastic paintwork sir Extremely nitpicking Cordy!  ;D This beautiful sculpt works the way it is |
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Post by Griffin on Sept 29, 2009 14:49:46 GMT
I see how it is assembled it would be extremely difficult to straighten the neck because of where its divided. Your paint job is too nice to risk it at this point. The curvy neck makes it look really graceful. I agree with everyone else this is one of my favorites of yours. Nice work.
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Post by wheezy on Nov 8, 2009 7:01:19 GMT
really cool pattern and detail on this guy, i like it lots.
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Post by kevin on Nov 8, 2009 7:10:52 GMT
Ok, but how is it any different from the Battats? It is exactly the same style, and shows exactly the same sorta detail?  ?? |
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Post by bucketfoot on Nov 8, 2009 9:24:41 GMT
Fantastic paint job.
How is it different from the Battats? Well, it has nice patterns on it, and the colors are brighter. Its also larger - so maybe the indentations blend in better than on a small piece.
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