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Post by bucketfoot on Nov 7, 2009 21:18:01 GMT
I don't get it - you're a fan of the Battat paint scheme for the Styracosaurus - so why repaint it?
I have to be very direct here - your paint job on this one is inferior to the original paint job on the figure.
I know you don't want me to lie to you. You've gone seriously off the rails on the last two Battat paints - the Trike is awful as well.
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Post by paleoferroequine on Nov 7, 2009 22:18:32 GMT
I don't get it - you're a fan of the Battat paint scheme for the Styracosaurus - so why repaint it? I have to be very direct here - your paint job on this one is inferior to the original paint job on the figure. I know you don't want me to lie to you. You've gone seriously off the rails on the last two Battat paints - the Trike is awful as well. I guess you wouldn't approve of the bronze paint job on my Battat Ceratosaurus then? ;D ;D ( In my defense, years ago some lacquer thinner got spilled on it and ruined the paint so I consider the bronze as primer if I want to paint it.  ) Maybe these were ruined also? |
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Post by bucketfoot on Nov 7, 2009 22:19:41 GMT
Look - that blue and yellow paint job looks like something that I might have done ... and that ain't no compliment, neither .....
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Post by bucketfoot on Nov 7, 2009 22:25:30 GMT
I don't get it - you're a fan of the Battat paint scheme for the Styracosaurus - so why repaint it? I have to be very direct here - your paint job on this one is inferior to the original paint job on the figure. I know you don't want me to lie to you. You've gone seriously off the rails on the last two Battat paints - the Trike is awful as well. I guess you wouldn't approve of the bronze paint job on my Battat Ceratosaurus then? ;D ;D ( In my defense, years ago some lacquer thinner got spilled on it and ruined the paint so I consider the bronze as primer if I want to paint it. ) Maybe these were ruined also? Due to the uniqueness and rarity of the Battats, I am averse to redoing their paint jobs. I would simply have re-touched the Ceratosaurus where the paint had been ruined. Heck I've done that on most of my Battats where there was a scuff mark or two ... I realize that this is just my preference .... |
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Post by kevin on Nov 7, 2009 22:52:29 GMT
As with the trike, there was paint fading on this figure. All I did was put back the original colors. It is still a good piece. It is also the only Battat paint scheme I tried to even remotly keep.
Let me be clear, then. I really hate the majority of the Battat schemes in general. I hate the trike most of all. But, that is just my taste, and I am aware that others disagree. I am just sharing what I have been up to lately. I have tried brighter colors an many dinos, I just am never satisfied with them. On animals the size of tanks or bigger, I personally do not feel they are convincing. I reall feel that the drabber, more naturalistically subdued schemes are more likely, and more believable to me.
As for repainting Battats in general, I have talked about this before. I have 11, all have been repainted now. I usually do not get mint figures. I seek out paint damaged ones, they are less expensive, and I even get them in trade. Indeed, I have only paid cash for three of the eleven. While I admit they are beautiful toys, for me they are no more valuable or sacred than any other toy. I also repainted all of my invictas. Sue me. You should imagine what I will do to tone down the diplo when I finally get it.....
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Post by paleoferroequine on Nov 7, 2009 22:59:36 GMT
I guess you wouldn't approve of the bronze paint job on my Battat Ceratosaurus then? ;D ;D ( In my defense, years ago some lacquer thinner got spilled on it and ruined the paint so I consider the bronze as primer if I want to paint it. ) Maybe these were ruined also? Due to the uniqueness and rarity of the Battats, I am averse to redoing their paint jobs. I would simply have re-touched the Ceratosaurus where the paint had been ruined. Heck I've done that on most of my Battats where there was a scuff mark or two ... I realize that this is just my preference .... I agree with you except this was more than a scuff, the paint was off of about 3/4 of the figure and some more was damaged not to mention the lacquer thinner made the surface tacky for about a month. I would have loved to have just retouched it up. An Edmontonia also got zapped at the same time. Besides, this was about 1995 so I didn't know they would be rare back then. I also wasted time and kept putting off buying the Apatosaurus until they were gone. Could kick myself now. News traveled slow then  |
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Post by kevin on Nov 7, 2009 23:12:01 GMT
Well, and again. my love of certain Battats has nothing to do with their collectability or rareness. I just like certain sculpts, and the details on them, with are overwheled by garish and sloppy paint shemes. I would almost be tempted to do them monochromatic, like an invicta, just to showcase the sculpted details. I have never repainted a "mint" battat, just ones that had small defects in their paint already. Maybe except for the amargasaurus, but he had to change color to be accepted by my herd....
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Nov 8, 2009 1:03:36 GMT
I guess you wouldn't approve of the bronze paint job on my Battat Ceratosaurus then? ;D ;D ( In my defense, years ago some lacquer thinner got spilled on it and ruined the paint so I consider the bronze as primer if I want to paint it. ) Maybe these were ruined also? Due to the uniqueness and rarity of the Battats, I am averse to redoing their paint jobs. I would simply have re-touched the Ceratosaurus where the paint had been ruined. Heck I've done that on most of my Battats where there was a scuff mark or two ... I realize that this is just my preference .... HA, says the man who DRILLED INTO his WwD ornithocheirus...   |
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Post by bucketfoot on Nov 8, 2009 4:14:42 GMT
Kevin - You hate the Trike paint scheme the most? (Said he to the man who has painted every Trike he's ever made in that pattern :>)
Look I respect your colour preferences. I certainly don't have the skill to paint the way you do. My strength is the customization, not the painting.
I was a bit crabby earlier. I apologize.
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Post by kevin on Nov 8, 2009 4:42:00 GMT
Yea, I know you really likr the trike colors, but for some reason, they have always grated on me....most of the Battat colors do. Maybe not in their design, but perhaps in the mass produced end product. So sloppily and thickly applied in most of the ones I have seen. But, I have always felt that their true strength lie in the subtle details, ones only seen at a second glance, and loud paint sometimes overrides that.
I agree the hadros would have had some bright color, but I'd bet it was all in their head and crest areas. And, yes, I figure many, or even most, ceratopsians had vibrant crest and shield displays. But, most also had those holes in theior shields, covered mainly in skin. I figure that is the area that gets flushed and is brightest, but trikes don't have that. It is all bone. So, I figure one of two things. One: the male trikes joust for mating rights, and or use the horns themselves as display. Or, the theory of torosaurus being a male trike is true. Then, the fenstrae would be skin covered and bright, and trikes are the female and duller version. Either way, I kinda stay duller on trikes, and more colorful on other ceratopsians.....
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Post by kuni on Nov 8, 2009 9:38:04 GMT
The trike is the best of the normal Battats, but I gotta back teton up on the "sloppy/thick" appearance of a typical Battat paintjob. That's why I had him repaint my Carnotaurus and mini Cerato, and both are now wayyyy better than they were before.
I think the "problem" is a simple one - for whatever reason, the black wash doesn't look that great on the Battat repaints, possibly because they're actually not that texturally detailed, whereas on something like a Kinto that has individual scale definition, the wash makes it look great.
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Post by bucketfoot on Nov 9, 2009 4:29:59 GMT
The trike is the best of the normal Battats, but I gotta back teton up on the "sloppy/thick" appearance of a typical Battat paintjob. That's why I had him repaint my Carnotaurus and mini Cerato, and both are now wayyyy better than they were before. I think the "problem" is a simple one - for whatever reason, the black wash doesn't look that great on the Battat repaints, possibly because they're actually not that texturally detailed, whereas on something like a Kinto that has individual scale definition, the wash makes it look great. I think you have something there kuni. That is exactly the explanation that I was groping around for. You've hit the nail on the head. THAT is why the Battats look better with more defined PATTERNS, and less good with undefined washes that point up the texture that does not go down to the level of scales. So....its not Kevin's fault - ITS THE BATTATS FAULT!! |
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Post by EmperorDinobot on Nov 9, 2009 10:12:23 GMT
I never got to see it.
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Post by Megaraptor on Nov 9, 2009 20:31:34 GMT
WHERE ARE THE ACTUAL PICS OF THE REPAINT???
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Post by sbell on Nov 9, 2009 20:41:32 GMT
You have to go to his Photobucket account--its under tetonbabydoll. Due to various circumstances, he removed his pictures from here.
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Post by Ajax on Nov 10, 2009 0:36:24 GMT
You have to go to his Photobucket account--its under tetonbabydoll. Due to various circumstances, he removed his pictures from here. Don't you have the power to delete this thread then? and all the others with removed pictures? |
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Post by sbell on Nov 10, 2009 1:12:54 GMT
You have to go to his Photobucket account--its under tetonbabydoll. Due to various circumstances, he removed his pictures from here. Don't you have the power to delete this thread then? and all the others with removed pictures? Honestly, they had gone past me--he made the announcement in an unrelated thread, so I didn't notice. But I can lock it! |
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