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Post by sid on Mar 23, 2010 23:45:08 GMT
Trex is SO overrated. It wasn't godly. Even the mighty tyrannosaurus could have been killed by something as simple as a virus or a broken leg Yes, T.Rex could have been killed by broken bones, infections, virus and such (like us, and every other living being on this planet, if you think about it), but one fact remains. He was (and still is, if compared to modern animals) the most powerful and efficient land predator who ever lived on this planet, you can't deny that... Nature pushed the basic theropod body plan (which is, IMHO, the best body plan Nature can give to a land vertebrate) to the extreme with this creature, basically making him the peak of meat-eater dinosaurs' evolution. I dare you to find a better hunter, Cordy, i dare ya ;D
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Post by Griffin on Mar 23, 2010 23:46:12 GMT
Trex is SO overrated. It wasn't godly. Even the mighty tyrannosaurus could have been killed by something as simple as a virus or a broken leg I'm pretty sure thats not what they were talking about. First off despite some other carnivorous dinosaurs being longer from nose to tail, I'm pretty confident in saying that Rex is still most likely the most powerful animal out of the bunch of them. I don't want to start a debate here with everybody posting their two cents fun facts about rex bite force and the difference between its teeth and those of a carnosaur and a spinosaur really we have all heard it before so please, refrain. But judging by the outcomes of past threads about this "who is the most powerful carnivore dino" threads and just at the facts we have Rex comes out on top. That being said "I dare you to find a better hunter, Cordy, i dare ya ;D" Don't start I beg of you. As a dinosaur its godly in popularity. There are well over 600 species of dinosaurs named by science. Tyrannosaurus Rex is one of the very very few that is universally recognized across the board by everyone around the world pretty much. Sure sure since Rex was discovered we they have found some other very impressive carnivores that perhaps if discovered at the same time as Rex, would be considered the "king" but really, they are never going to pass Rex in popularity. Ever. The tyrannosaurus has too many years of being on top under its belt to ever be moved from that position. That, my friend, is a godly trait.
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Post by Tyrannax on Mar 24, 2010 21:32:24 GMT
Oh goodness. I'm glad Griffin was able to nip this budding debate before it became too large to handle and ended in the loss of a few members. It's a never ending battle.
I find that every large theropod possesses its own list of interesting traits. One interesting note about the "godly" popularity of Tyrannosaurus rex: although we've discovered many predatory theropods that challenge the animal in length, is it not interesting to note that it is still referred to as one of, if not the most powerful by paleontologists? I believe it is this aspect of strength that attracts the curiosity of the world.
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Post by sid on Mar 25, 2010 18:49:19 GMT
Griffin, you're totally right; with that phrase i got a bit carried away, sorry
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Mar 26, 2010 3:25:17 GMT
Wow I was away from my computer for 2 days and look what happened. I love T rex as much as the next guy. I love allosaurs even more they have always been my favorite. I started this just to state wow its really cool to see a predator on the same scale as T rex in North America. lets not forget that T rex came around some 50 million years after the last allosaurs and spinos. so it has the unfair advantage of being more evolved in many ways but asking what dinosaur was the best killer or the strongest is really useless be cause one we will never now they are extinct and two..they are animals not monsters not pokemon with stats and hit points. Its like asking what do you want to be killed by a lion a tiger or a bear either way you are dead and all these animals were very good at what they did which was being the apex predator of the time.
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Post by stoneage on Mar 26, 2010 15:45:14 GMT
Spinosaurus died out only 25 million years before Tyrannosaurus.
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Mar 27, 2010 2:40:56 GMT
Spinosaurus died out only 25 million years before Tyrannosaurus. OMG and be four that they were scurrying under the footsteps of spinosaurs and allosaurs as little fluffy scavangers lol.
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Post by Megaraptor on Mar 27, 2010 3:50:04 GMT
Trex is SO overrated. It wasn't godly. Even the mighty tyrannosaurus could have been killed by something as simple as a virus or a broken leg So could your wimpy little fish-eaters...Heck, they probably never got a chance to brak a bone 'cos they spent all their time sitting on hills casting their rods! Hope this doesn't offend anyone.
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Post by Griffin on Mar 27, 2010 12:37:58 GMT
Trex is SO overrated. It wasn't godly. Even the mighty tyrannosaurus could have been killed by something as simple as a virus or a broken leg So could your wimpy little fish-eaters...Heck, they probably never got a chance to brak a bone 'cos they spent all their time sitting on hills casting their rods! Hope this doesn't offend anyone. Could we not get into this please?
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Mar 27, 2010 15:02:10 GMT
This topic is about North American theropods.
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Mar 27, 2010 17:21:11 GMT
LOL , look at all this fanboyism! I'm sorry, but all of the " Rex is the baddest and most efficient and coolest and pwnziest predator ever" talk made me do it
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Post by Horridus on Mar 28, 2010 16:38:40 GMT
I was just messing about! As I think everyone is here. If you're offended by this talk then you're either 10 years old or a complete idiot.
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Post by Griffin on Mar 28, 2010 17:04:49 GMT
Yeah I'm kinda weirded out how this got as far as it did. I thought i did a decent job cutting it off before but some people can't control themselves lol.
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Mar 28, 2010 19:00:55 GMT
Its human nature to Idolize things weather its actors athletes or in this case dinosaurs.
Since every one wants to debate it lets talk about the predatory habits of Tyrannosaurs and allosaurs.
the one thing that always stood out to me is that the mighty Rex who appeared a mere 2 millions years be four the K/T extinction. at that time they liven in a dieing world poisoned by volcanic activity and a harsh changing climate. this certainly produced a only the strong will survive ecosystem culminating in the "all power full T rex". My question is where is the rex's competition? and don't say they ate them. If you look at any ecosystem today there is always a apex predator or 2 or 3 or 4 look at Africa for example ,lions, leopards, hyenas, cape hunting dogs, cheetahs and Nile crocodiles. all we have in the fossil record around T rex's time are some small dromeosaurs none over 7 feet long compared to a 42 foot rex. In contrast if you look back at allosaurs they all almost always live alongside some type of ceratosaur/albeliasaur spinosaur or megalosaur.
Allosaurids hunted some very large animals (sauropods) many over 4 times there own mass. as aposed to tyrannosaurs typically hunting down animals with in there own size range or smaller (hadrosaurs and ceratopsians)
both familys of animals show many healed and or fatal injury's in there skeletons showcaseing there violent life style.
Most tyrannosaurs had typical theropod teeth for slicing culminating with daspleatasaurs an T rex in to bone crushers. allosaurids are basically oversize land sharks on 2 legs striping flesh down to the bone and even sawing threw bone. Combined that with the formidable claws on many species arms and you have a walking butcher shop.
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Post by Griffin on Mar 28, 2010 21:04:49 GMT
"Since every one wants to debate it lets talk about the predatory habits of Tyrannosaurs and allosaurs."
NO PLEASE! I have heard it all before and we are just gonna end up right back where we started.
HEY WOW LOOK AT THOSE COOL SKELETONS ON PAGE ONE! LETS TALK ABOUT THAT SHALL WE???
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Post by Horridus on Mar 28, 2010 21:12:50 GMT
Cool skeletons are cool. Is that an Edmontosaurus at the front there?
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Mar 28, 2010 23:23:34 GMT
Ok just so long as every one is conversating. Yes I belive it is an edmonto. Dose any one know wich rex this is since most have names now like sue stan and pex rex.
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Post by kuni on Mar 29, 2010 6:22:53 GMT
I'd like to see more about Torvosaurus. It seems like a really cool Jurassic predator, but it gets overshadowed by, well, everything...
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Post by sid on Mar 29, 2010 10:14:55 GMT
The Rex in that pic is, if i'm not mistaken, the subadult known as "Bucky"; i just checked the (awesome, fantastic, kickass, etc) Larson & Carpenter's book about T.Rex and it looks really similar to that specimen. Even the Edmonto looks like a young one... Maybe they were placed alongside the Acro (which i think he's an adult) to make him look bigger
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Mar 29, 2010 15:04:06 GMT
The Rex in that pic is, if i'm not mistaken, the subadult known as "Bucky"; i just checked the (awesome, fantastic, kickass, etc) Larson & Carpenter's book about T.Rex and it looks really similar to that specimen. Even the Edmonto looks like a young one... Maybe they were placed alongside the Acro (which i think he's an adult) to make him look bigger I agree it dose look small and graciel like a subadult not robust like an adult Trex ex Sue and the AMNH specimen. Yes that acro is "fran"an adult acrocanthasaurs. " I'd like to see more about Torvosaurus. It seems like a really cool Jurassic predator, but it gets overshadowed by, well, everything..." Yes me too Tovi is a rely unrated carnivore
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