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Post by brontodocus on Sept 27, 2010 10:16:14 GMT
About the Apato, hm I cannot find a good big photo of it to really tell, but does it have sculpted scales too, like the brachio? To me, it always looked like a totally mammalian skin (maybe not so elephant as hyppo?) Yeah I looked in the Schleich catalogue and the Apato has a different skin than the Brachio. Apato's is totally mammalian. It does look great IMO, the whole figure is a totally innacurate and retro design, so the mammal skin fits there. It's really one of the very best Schleich figures imo, in terms of artistic detail and quality. I really really want one, but in Spain they are very expensive and I won't pay shipping cost for that behemoth to be bought online. Here's a photo of the Schleich ReplicaSaurus Apatosaurus (2009) skin texture:  No scales. The wrinkles are rather crude.  But the neck of the Schleich 2008 Brachiosaurus has a texture quite similar to this. By the way, did you know that the Apatosaurus is hollow? However, it still weighs more than 1Kg. Despite its retro look, it's my favourite Schleich dinosaur figure. |
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Post by Himmapaan on Sept 27, 2010 12:49:51 GMT
Ah, yes.  You're right, Fox; now I see Dr. Andre's picture, it does have much more mammalian skin. But it also does look good in its retro way, as you say. I've been eyeing it for some time myself, not previously knowing (or indeed, caring a great deal ;D) what the skin really looked like up close (but of course, it would be nice in any case were they eventually to try to improve on it ;D). I still like it as an overall design. Perhaps you shall have a Schleich Apatosaurus for Christmas, Fox.  |
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Post by thelordsgym on Sept 27, 2010 14:11:30 GMT
About the Apato, hm I cannot find a good big photo of it to really tell, but does it have sculpted scales too, like the brachio? To me, it always looked like a totally mammalian skin (maybe not so elephant as hyppo?) Yeah I looked in the Schleich catalogue and the Apato has a different skin than the Brachio. Apato's is totally mammalian. It does look great IMO, the whole figure is a totally innacurate and retro design, so the mammal skin fits there. It's really one of the very best Schleich figures imo, in terms of artistic detail and quality. I really really want one, but in Spain they are very expensive and I won't pay shipping cost for that behemoth to be bought online. Here's a photo of the Schleich ReplicaSaurus Apatosaurus (2009) skin texture: No scales. The wrinkles are rather crude. But the neck of the Schleich 2008 Brachiosaurus has a texture quite similar to this. By the way, did you know that the Apatosaurus is hollow? Just curious, how do you know for certain that it is hollow? |
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Post by brontodocus on Sept 27, 2010 15:15:55 GMT
Just curious, how do you know for certain that it is hollow? It's significantly bigger and more voluminous than its predecessor but the latter is nearly a third heavier (mine are 1005 g and 1304 g, respectively). And you hear it when you knock at it. Did you see the little, almost rectangular area on the flank? I've indicated its margins by arrows:  This is obviously a part that has been inserted, there is another part on the other side only more ovally shaped. I don't know what they exactly did and what these inserted parts are good for but I'd recommend to everyone who has the figure just knock at it and examine this little area on the flanks. Or, of course, if you don't like your Apato anymore, take out your jigsaw... ;D Sorry, I like mine too much and it is quite expensive even here in Germany, I can't do that. |
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Post by Horridus on Sept 27, 2010 15:38:08 GMT
The elephant feet are an affront to sauropods. An affront, I tell you!
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Post by foxilized on Sept 27, 2010 15:53:36 GMT
Perhaps you shall have a Schleich Apatosaurus for Christmas, Fox. I'll writte Santa Claus but I'm afraid I've been a bad boy. ;D |
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Post by Himmapaan on Sept 27, 2010 17:34:40 GMT
The elephant feet are an affront to sauropods. An affront, I tell you! Oh, there, there. If I can forgive them now and again, surely you can. ;D Perhaps you shall have a Schleich Apatosaurus for Christmas, Fox. I'll writte Santa Claus but I'm afraid I've been a bad boy. ;D I have been known to act as Father Christmas's envoy on special occasions. How bad have you been? Perhaps there has been a greater share of good? ;D |
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Post by thelordsgym on Sept 27, 2010 17:36:52 GMT
Just curious, how do you know for certain that it is hollow? It's significantly bigger and more voluminous than its predecessor but the latter is nearly a third heavier (mine are 1005 g and 1304 g, respectively). And you hear it when you knock at it. Did you see the little, almost rectangular area on the flank? I've indicated its margins by arrows: This is obviously a part that has been inserted, there is another part on the other side only more ovally shaped. I don't know what they exactly did and what these inserted parts are good for but I'd recommend to everyone who has the figure just knock at it and examine this little area on the flanks. Or, of course, if you don't like your Apato anymore, take out your jigsaw... ;D Sorry, I like mine too much and it is quite expensive even here in Germany, I can't do that. That's an impressive use of observation and logic to draw that conclusion. Well done! By the way, is this figure better or worse than the schleich brachiosaurus in your opinion? If it is, why would you say so? Detail, accuracy, creativity? |
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Post by sumo on Sept 27, 2010 17:46:37 GMT
Hey, that Apato isn't as bad as I'd expected it to be. *grimace* Apologies for the backhanded compliment... I just don't like Schleich's approach to skin, period. (And that goes for their mammals as well, with pointless hair texture on even the smoothest-coated animal.) Honestly didn't think I'd be this picky, but several times I've passed up the Spino because that annoying crosshatching they pass off as scales bugs me.
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Post by postsaurischian on Sept 27, 2010 18:25:24 GMT
That's an impressive use of observation and logic to draw that conclusion. Well done! By the way, is this figure better or worse than the schleich brachiosaurus in your opinion? If it is, why would you say so? Detail, accuracy, creativity? They're both nicely sculptured figures, even if scientifically inaccurate - just at a higher level than their average models. I cannot decide which one's better. Normally I don't like the Schleich figures as well, but when it comes to Sauropods they're not afraid of producing them at a bigger scale (like other companies are  ) and size does matter ;D! Back to topic: The Brachio's design is more in the vein of the Papo figures, but it's a bit too small. The Apato is about the right size next to the Papo T. rex. BTW: Nice investigation, brontodocus . One can tell that you're a scientist. |
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Post by foxilized on Sept 27, 2010 19:51:48 GMT
I'll writte Santa Claus but I'm afraid I've been a bad boy. ;D I have been known to act as Father Christmas's envoy on special occasions. How bad have you been? Perhaps there has been a greater share of good? ;D Yeah I suppose there was a sort of equilibrium between darkness and light.  Don't offer things that later you won't do, Father Christmas. Neanderthal's hearts break easily. |
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Post by Himmapaan on Sept 27, 2010 20:35:26 GMT
The hearts of messengers and other akin spirits of half-life break exceedingly easily too. It's what makes them what they are. Well, Father Christmas has made no promise yet. But he and I will consult further in due course... |
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Post by bokisaurus on Sept 28, 2010 18:35:27 GMT
Ok, so I checked my Apato figurte for that "patch", and yes, it has a patch that appears larger than yours! It was nicely "blended" that its hard to notice it. Anyway. here are the two giants side-by-side, they are both wonderful figures... and very big! ;D As you can see, the Brachi has lots of circular "bumps" on its skin, unlike the smoother Apato And the Apato is much bigger and bulkier than the brachi ;D  |
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Post by brontodocus on Sept 28, 2010 18:53:12 GMT
Thanks, postsaurischian, thelordsgym - and thanks, Boki! If the patch is bigger, was it on the right side? In my figure the right side has a larger, more oval patch. My preference for the Apatosaurus is simply its sheer size (it's really huge for a toy figure), its retro charm, and its graceful pose despite its bulk. I completely agree with Libraraptor's review. For those who may have missed it (okay, you didn't ): www.dinotoyblog.com/2009/12/28/apatosaurus-schleich-2008/But the 2008 Brachiosaurus is also one of my favourite Schleich figures. |
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Post by bokisaurus on Sept 28, 2010 19:35:02 GMT
Thanks, postsaurischian, thelordsgym - and thanks, Boki! If the patch is bigger, was it on the right side? In my figure the right side has a larger, more oval patch. My preference for the Apatosaurus is simply its sheer size (it's really huge for a toy figure), its retro charm, and its graceful pose despite its bulk. I completely agree with Libraraptor's review. For those who may have missed it (okay, you didn't ): www.dinotoyblog.com/2009/12/28/apatosaurus-schleich-2008/But the 2008 Brachiosaurus is also one of my favourite Schleich figures. Aha! there are two patches! Yes, the other one is smaller and more square, while the other is more rounded and bigger I do like the two figures a lot. |
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Post by tanystropheus on Sept 29, 2010 6:40:58 GMT
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Post by Himmapaan on Sept 29, 2010 10:36:45 GMT
I'd like to know, too. That's another one on my possible wishlist.
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Post by foxilized on Sept 29, 2010 11:24:59 GMT
Hm that last Saltasaurus photo was either the prototype (wich is always more elaboratedly painted and looks way better than the final product) or a photo with the colours altered (with more contrast or something).
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Post by gfxtwin on Sept 29, 2010 20:55:53 GMT
Posts like these are what make me think that everyone here believes there is little more to Papo sculpts than detailed scales. That Saltosaurus is detailed, but lacks most of the muscle tone, attention to muscle anatomy (some would say too much), and fluid, lifelike poses of Papo's best. Like the Allosaur, Pachyrhinosaur, Tyrannosaur, etc. |
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Post by Himmapaan on Sept 29, 2010 21:31:12 GMT
Posts like these are what make me think that everyone here believes there is little more to Papo sculpts than detailed scales. That Saltosaurus is detailed, but lacks most of the muscle tone, attention to muscle anatomy (some would say too much), and fluid, lifelike poses of Papo's best. Like the Allosaur, Pachyrhinosaur, Tyrannosaur, etc. Not quite everyone. I agree with you about those Papo pluses but hadn't fully elaborated on them before. I mentioned once somewhere on the forum in the context of their defence that I'm not an unconditional Papo fan; which is to say that I recognise their faults, but I do appreciate a great deal all those things that commend them. And those same sentiments stand for any other manufacturer. Oh, here is the thread. I've just realised it was started by you, in fact, haha. ;D |
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But the neck of the Schleich 2008 Brachiosaurus has a texture quite similar to this.
You're right, Fox; now I see Dr. Andre's picture, it does have much more mammalian skin. But it also does look good in its retro way, as you say. I've been eyeing it for some time myself, not previously knowing (or indeed, caring a great deal ;D) what the skin really looked like up close (but of course, it would be nice in any case were they eventually to try to improve on it ;D). I still like it as an overall design. 
) and size does matter ;D!
