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Post by sbell on Sept 10, 2010 2:47:37 GMT
The ones that snap together from little parts, i.e., all of the Kaiyodo Dinotales, are made of plastic. Only some of the expo and specialty figures are made of resin. Are you sure? I thought it was confirmed they were made out of colored resins (sometimes they aren't even colored, they're transparent!) I'm pretty sure that all dinotales are resin-based figures; at their small size, the texture and feel is not much different from plastic. However--when they break, they repair much more easily when treated like a resin than plastic (according to the friend of mine that does it for me!). |
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Post by sbell on Sept 10, 2010 2:49:15 GMT
I'll reserve final judgement for better pictures, but I think they look pretty cool. The only gripe I have is that they could have done something more interesting with the Guanlong's colours. And then someone would complain that it is too garish, or outrageous, or unrealistic. I think they found a decent middle ground--some imagination, but nothing too out there. |
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Post by Meso-Cenozoic on Sept 10, 2010 3:36:49 GMT
I thought it had them also -- like in the siggy pic Dan is using. Hmm? The original paper doesn't mention them...and it appears as though much of the shoulder and forelimbs have been found. It seems as though other closely related stegosaurs (such as Dacentrurus) are reconstructed either with or without shoulder spikes as well. I'm not sure why....perhaps because they closely resemble the build of Kentrosaurus? Maybe just artistic license? Anyway, here's the paper if you'd like to read it. rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2009/02/21/rspb.2008.1909.full.pdfHey, thanks for finding this. I'll give it a read. ;D |
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Post by Meso-Cenozoic on Sept 10, 2010 4:53:42 GMT
Very interesting read, Praehistoricus. According to the skeletal pic they include, it appears we only know about the Miragaia from it's front half of actual bones that have been found.   The article often brings up comparisons to Dacentrurus armatus, the most complete stegosaur skeleton from Europe. Except for the four pairs of tail spikes, the new Carnegie figure seems to emulate this artist's life restoration of Dacentrurus armatus, with it's plates changing to tall spiky things running down the top if it's tail...  Now, in this life restoration and skeletal recreation, it appears that there are shoulder spikes that have been found. (note: actual bones found in white).  Artistic interpretation of the stegosaur dinosaur Miragaia longicollum and the preserved skeletal material of the specimen ML433 (illustration by Simão Mateus). For osteological purposes see Mateus et al. (2009). |
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Post by tanystropheus on Sept 10, 2010 15:30:30 GMT
Here's a thought: Maybe the Miragaia's shoulder spike is on the opposite shoulder ( you know, the shoulder that we can not see)?  |
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Post by precambrian on Sept 10, 2010 16:39:38 GMT
Anyone getting all excited about those plants like I do? Finally something for my plant-eaters after all these long years!
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Post by Himmapaan on Sept 10, 2010 16:40:18 GMT
Yes, I am.  |
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Post by Griffin on Sept 10, 2010 19:00:39 GMT
Anyone getting all excited about those plants like I do? Finally something for my plant-eaters after all these long years! Yes I actually am. Initially I was a little annoyed that that spot could have been occupied by another cool animal but once I saw the plants they really ahem...grew on me. No pun intended. BAHAHAHAHAHA |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Sept 10, 2010 20:15:03 GMT
I think it would be much more alarming if you found prehistoric fungus replicas "growing" on you ;D The tree fern is my favorite! |
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Post by sbell on Sept 10, 2010 20:19:37 GMT
Anyone getting all excited about those plants like I do? Finally something for my plant-eaters after all these long years! Yes I actually am. Initially I was a little annoyed that that spot could have been occupied by another cool animal but once I saw the plants they really ahem...grew on me. No pun intended. BAHAHAHAHAHA I can foresee having a lot of them in our shop--we already incorporate trees along with some figures for our shop displays, but these ones will make things look that much cooler. And yeah, people will probably buy them too, we won't stop them. Just like how, in theory, we have the CollectA 36" T.rex for displays, but they keep selling! |
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Post by Dan on Sept 10, 2010 20:40:25 GMT
Just like how, in theory, we have the CollectA 36" T.rex for displays, but they keep selling! I finally got to see this thing in person, and it definitely grabs the eye. Makes the JP Bull Rex look like a puppy. |
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Post by Meso-Cenozoic on Sept 10, 2010 20:42:26 GMT
Hey sbell, I know it's really early yet, but, do you have any approximate price ranges on these plants?
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Post by sbell on Sept 10, 2010 22:00:49 GMT
Hey sbell, I know it's really early yet, but, do you have any approximate price ranges on these plants? I have asked, but I was told that they don't know for sure just yet. Judging by the sizes, I would assume similar prices to the existing pine tree, maybe a little higher (there is a lot more to these trees than just the tree--they all seem to have a bit of a 'base' to them, while the pine tree is just a tree). But I hope they top out at around $10-$15; higher than that, and it will be hard for many buyers to build the forests they want! |
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Post by Praehistoricus on Sept 10, 2010 23:07:41 GMT
Very interesting read, Praehistoricus. According to the skeletal pic they include, it appears we only know about the Miragaia from it's front half of actual bones that have been found. The article often brings up comparisons to Dacentrurus armatus, the most complete stegosaur skeleton from Europe. Except for the four pairs of tail spikes, the new Carnegie figure seems to emulate this artist's life restoration of Dacentrurus armatus, with it's plates changing to tall spiky things running down the top if it's tail... Now, in this life restoration and skeletal recreation, it appears that there are shoulder spikes that have been found. (note: actual bones found in white). Artistic interpretation of the stegosaur dinosaur Miragaia longicollum and the preserved skeletal material of the specimen ML433 (illustration by Simão Mateus). For osteological purposes see Mateus et al. (2009). What makes this even more bizarre is that both reconstructions (including the illustrations showing the skeletal material that has been found) are based on the same type specimen (ML433). I have no idea why they would include the shoulder spikes in one instance and not the other. Either way, the new figure is going to look great next to my other stegosaurs, shoulder spike or no shoulder spike! |
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Post by Meso-Cenozoic on Sept 11, 2010 5:03:38 GMT
Yep, totally agree with you, Praehistoricus! It still looks like it's going to be an awesome figure, even by the not-so-great pic we have so far. ;D And thanks, sbell. Hope you're right. Those price guesstimates sound much better than the other companies' ridiculously much higher prices. It'd be a nice change from those $20/30 and up prices per tree we have to choose from now!  |
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Post by Griffin on Sept 11, 2010 6:18:27 GMT
I just realized something. Shouldn't the Edmonto have the little dragon ridges down the back? Or was that a different dinosaur mummy that was discovered. I know there was a brachylophosaurus one too but I can't remember which one it was that showed the ridges and the banded tail pattern.
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Post by blackdanter on Sept 11, 2010 11:16:50 GMT
Anyone getting all excited about those plants like I do? Finally something for my plant-eaters after all these long years! Me ;D Although, I'm a bit dissapointed about the tree fern from the photos although I'll buy them all anyway  |
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Post by blackdanter on Sept 11, 2010 11:22:51 GMT
I'm not a big fan of safari toobs...why don't they just make them like those Kaiyodo critters? Then, I would be a believer. ;D I don't know how you want them to be MORE like kaiyodoes - they're already extremely detailed, with great paint apps. The only thing that makes them different is the fact that kaiyodos are made of resin! Kaiyodo's are actually styrene plastic which is hard and brittle but doesn't fracture in the same way as resin does. Not sure why everyone says they're resin as it's not the case at all. If you think about it logically, it would have been seriously cost prohibitive to produce what is basically a premium figure in resin Not wishing to step on anyones toes here but, with that in mind, if you use the wrong glue on a Kaiyodo Dinotale figure (say the old style model kit glues us oldies used to use back in the day that melt the plastic parts together) it will melt! Best to use non reactive cyanocrylate glues (super glue) to be on the safe side |
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Post by Himmapaan on Sept 11, 2010 13:44:15 GMT
I thought the Dinotales were plastic too (and also thought they would have been too expensive to produce in resin). I'm no expert in these materials, but I've worked quite a bit with resin models when cleaning them up or customising (both horses and dinosaurs ;D), and the Dinotales felt more like plastic to me when I had to shave off excess bits, etc.
Anyway, back to thread. ;D
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Post by Megaraptor on Sept 11, 2010 22:47:03 GMT
The ones that snap together from little parts, i.e., all of the Kaiyodo Dinotales, are made of plastic. Only some of the expo and specialty figures are made of resin. Are you sure? I thought it was confirmed they were made out of colored resins (sometimes they aren't even colored, they're transparent!) The ones I have are made of plastic I think. |
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