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Post by Himmapaan on Jun 4, 2011 3:11:55 GMT
Before we stray too far away from Martin's thread, gentlemen... Much as I enjoyed the discussion...
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Post by Jeremy on Jun 4, 2011 3:25:44 GMT
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Post by arioch on Jun 4, 2011 3:51:05 GMT
Simply awsome. Love the colours, the broken horn, the scars and ...everything!
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Post by Griffin on Jun 4, 2011 4:34:02 GMT
"We can´t predict how they behaved seeing the niche they occupied, but fair enough."
Did you read my last paragraph?
"any type of pack hunting by birds is rare"
Keas and golden eagles have been known to work in groups to take out MUCH larger prey. There could be more those are just the ones I could think of off the top of my head. When it comes to group cooperation by birds in general there are plenty of other examples.
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Post by simon on Jun 4, 2011 5:26:26 GMT
Don't forget, fellas, that several Tenontosaurus remains found closely associated with several Deinonychus remains and teeth tantalizingly raise the possibility of pack hunting .... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinonychus
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jun 4, 2011 5:34:07 GMT
Awesome...def my favorite Torosaurus pieces....EVER. ;D
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Post by arioch on Jun 4, 2011 8:19:56 GMT
"We can´t predict how they behaved seeing the niche they occupied, but fair enough." Did you read my last paragraph? Excuse me. I thought it was implicit in my reply. I believe mammals shouldn´t be used as an inspiration in any case, even slightly. Is a mistake we have been doing for years.
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Post by Griffin on Jun 4, 2011 11:31:49 GMT
So you think for instance that comparing the behavior of something like an elephant or a giraffe to a sauropod even in the slightest bit is flat out wrong?
I guess we just disagree on it then.
And on the tenontosaurus deinonychus remains. That is pretty much the leading evidence backing up the pack hunting idea. However it can be portrayed as scavenging as well.
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Post by stoneage on Jun 4, 2011 21:26:20 GMT
So you think for instance that comparing the behavior of something like an elephant or a giraffe to a sauropod even in the slightest bit is flat out wrong? I guess we just disagree on it then. And on the tenontosaurus deinonychus remains. That is pretty much the leading evidence backing up the pack hunting idea. However it can be portrayed as scavenging as well. Still few birds hunt in packs. Also Dromaeosaurs weren't as smart as modern birds. A recent study by Roach and Brinkman found that Deinonychus which were found with Tenontosaurus remains were sub-adults. They had missing parts that were consistant with having been eaten by other Deinonychus. Which means they probably fought over a Tenotosaurus which was already dead instead of hunting in a cooperative pack.
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Post by Griffin on Jun 5, 2011 0:14:12 GMT
So you think for instance that comparing the behavior of something like an elephant or a giraffe to a sauropod even in the slightest bit is flat out wrong? I guess we just disagree on it then. And on the tenontosaurus deinonychus remains. That is pretty much the leading evidence backing up the pack hunting idea. However it can be portrayed as scavenging as well. Still few birds hunt in packs. Also Dromaeosaurs weren't as smart as modern birds. A recent study by Roach and Brinkman found that Deinonychus which were found with Tenontosaurus remains were sub-adults. They had missing parts that were consistant with having been eaten by other Deinonychus. Which means they probably fought over a Tenotosaurus which was already dead instead of hunting in a cooperative pack. I never assumed they could hunt in packs as advanced as something like a wolf but some basic cooperation always seemed plausible to me. Do you have a link for that info? I've never heard that before.
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Post by stoneage on Jun 5, 2011 1:49:40 GMT
Still few birds hunt in packs. Also Dromaeosaurs weren't as smart as modern birds. A recent study by Roach and Brinkman found that Deinonychus which were found with Tenontosaurus remains were sub-adults. They had missing parts that were consistant with having been eaten by other Deinonychus. Which means they probably fought over a Tenotosaurus which was already dead instead of hunting in a cooperative pack. I never assumed they could hunt in packs as advanced as something like a wolf but some basic cooperation always seemed plausible to me. Do you have a link for that info? I've never heard that before. www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.3374/0079-032X(2007)48%5B103%3AAROCPH%5D2.0.CO%3B2
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Post by Griffin on Jun 5, 2011 17:16:52 GMT
Hm yeah there was always the chance that that tenonto find was just agressive scavenging. But it still doesnt mean they weren't capable of some group hunting of some kind.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jun 6, 2011 8:30:47 GMT
This is Martin's 3rd repaint..with a slight tail mod.
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Post by Jeremy on Jun 8, 2011 19:29:21 GMT
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Post by Himmapaan on Jun 8, 2011 22:15:12 GMT
Heavens above...
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Post by arioch on Jun 8, 2011 23:04:15 GMT
Indeed! simply fantastic.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jun 9, 2011 2:55:38 GMT
It's a beautiful paint job ! I just can't seem to get past some details of the sculpt though.. :/
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Post by Himmapaan on Jun 9, 2011 3:03:05 GMT
Aw, never mind. Variety is to be celebrated, after all. ;D
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jun 9, 2011 6:01:27 GMT
Aye, I'll admire it for sure...just can't see myself buying it you know ? ;D
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jun 9, 2011 6:03:07 GMT
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