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Post by lio99 on Mar 16, 2011 23:45:34 GMT
Here are the largest sea monsters ever, minus basilosaurus.  red: shonisaurus 23m green: liopleurodon 19m dark green: megalodon 16m orange : mosasaurus 18m Some of you will disogree.  |
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Post by Gorgonopsid on Mar 16, 2011 23:56:08 GMT
interesting. ;D
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Post by lio99 on Mar 16, 2011 23:59:20 GMT
Shonisaurus, the largest carnivore ever.
Megalodon the largest shark ever.
liopleurodon the largest predator ever lived.
Mosasaurus the largest mosasaur.
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Post by Trexroarr on Mar 17, 2011 0:13:19 GMT
Shonisaurus, the largest carnivore ever. Megalodon the largest shark ever. liopleurodon the largest predator ever lived. Mosasaurus the largest mosasaur. Aren't the descriptions for Shonisaurus and Liopleurodon basically the same thing? lol |
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Post by sbell on Mar 17, 2011 0:17:05 GMT
Here are the largest sea monsters ever, minus basilosaurus. red: shonisaurus 23m green: liopleurodon 19m dark green: megalodon 16m orange : mosasaurus 18m Some of you will disogree. Especially about the Basilosaurus--the Blue Whale is still far larger (100ft vs 85 ft max). |
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Post by Horridus on Mar 17, 2011 0:25:06 GMT
Liopleurodon - 19 metres? LOLWTF!?!1!?
Try half that. Really.
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Post by eriorguez on Mar 17, 2011 2:03:17 GMT
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Anyway, rorqual whales, incluiding the blue whale, are predatory, and actively hunt prey. Groups of far smaller that themselves prey, but still prey. So nope, the largest predator ever is a extant species.
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Post by Trexroarr on Mar 17, 2011 2:32:42 GMT
Well I guess the Zoo Tycoon 2 community isn't the only place where you love to insult people, right, eriorguez? So hes 11 and doesn't have his facts all straight yet. Big deal.
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Post by DinoLord on Mar 17, 2011 2:37:59 GMT
I don't think he's 11. And eriorguez, this isn't a place for flaming people. It can get pretty ugly here.
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Post by gwangi on Mar 17, 2011 3:08:03 GMT
Ah, such a cute fanboy he is, I miss being 11; back then I wasn't that much of a prick... Anyway, rorqual whales, incluiding the blue whale, are predatory, and actively hunt prey. Groups of far smaller that themselves prey, but still prey. So nope, the largest predator ever is a extant species. Filter feeders aren't generally regarded as predators. That is why the largest predatory shark is the white shark and the largest predatory whale is the sperm whale. |
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Post by stoneage on Mar 17, 2011 3:36:14 GMT
Kronosaurus and Tylosaurus are both bigger then Liopleurodon.
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Post by Griffin on Mar 17, 2011 3:40:07 GMT
Ah, such a cute fanboy he is, I miss being 11; back then I wasn't that much of a prick... Anyway, rorqual whales, incluiding the blue whale, are predatory, and actively hunt prey. Groups of far smaller that themselves prey, but still prey. So nope, the largest predator ever is a extant species. Regardless what age he is. That wording was still pretty rude. |
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Post by simon on Mar 17, 2011 4:16:41 GMT
Kronosaurus and Tylosaurus are both bigger then Liopleurodon. What about "Predator X" - the gigantic Pliosaur from Norway? It had the most powerful jaws/teeth of ANY critter yet found in the fossil record ...  From Wiki: "The creature was 15 metres (49 ft) long, 45,000 kilograms (99,000 lb) in weight and had teeth 30 centimetres (12 in) long.[4][5] The jaws of the creature may have been able to exert more force than those of a Tyrannosaurus rex,[1] with one news source stating the bite was over 10 times more powerful than any modern animal and four times more powerful than that of a Tyrannosaurus.[6] It is estimated to have been alive approximately 147 million years ago.[7] A television program entitled Predator X aired on History on March 29, 2009. Analysis of bones from the four flippers suggest that the animal cruised using just two fore-flippers, using the back pair for extra speed when pursuing and capturing prey. Predator X's brain was of a similar type and size, proportionally, to that of today's great white shark, the team says.[5]" |
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Post by sbell on Mar 17, 2011 4:45:33 GMT
Ah, such a cute fanboy he is, I miss being 11; back then I wasn't that much of a prick... Anyway, rorqual whales, incluiding the blue whale, are predatory, and actively hunt prey. Groups of far smaller that themselves prey, but still prey. So nope, the largest predator ever is a extant species. He only said sea monsters--that doesn't necessarily mean predator (biggest killer in Africa? Hippo). And while, yes, the purpose of this thread may be questionable to you, please keep the insults to yourself. |
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Post by lio99 on Mar 17, 2011 8:18:54 GMT
liopleurodon was certainly larger than kronosaurus kronosaurus was 9m long, I'm not saying that liopleurodon was 19m i mean it was at least 12m long!
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Post by fooman666 on Mar 17, 2011 10:01:00 GMT
liopleurodon was certainly larger than kronosaurus kronosaurus was 9m long, I'm not saying that liopleurodon was 19m i mean it was at least 12m long! he's right about lio being bigger then krono, the theory that kronosaurus was the largest was based on an inaccuarate skeletal mount, something about too many vetebrae in the neck or something. |
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Post by eriorguez on Mar 17, 2011 13:37:31 GMT
Okay, sorry if I sounded too rude, my intention was not that one. I remember acting like lio some years ago, I acted a bit nostalgic, but as it has been said, my choice of wording was questionable, my apologices. Well I guess the Zoo Tycoon 2 community isn't the only place where you love to insult people, right, eriorguez? So hes 11 and doesn't have his facts all straight yet. Big deal. And, as I said, I didn't want to come of as insulting. You sound more insulting in that post, you know, making me seem an even larger prick that I am. Strawmans are not a good thing, don't make one of me. Anyway, back on topic, filter feeders are not considered predators because of they not being macropredators or something like that. Apparently, you can prey on sardine if you are 500 kg but not if you are 50000 kg. Doesn't matter. Liopleurodon is smaller that Kronosaurus from the material known, just like Velociraptor is smaller that Deinonychus. WWD made Liopleurodon popular, based on pliosaur remains found very separated in time and space from Liopleurodon. So no, the animal in WWD was a construct, just like the raptors in JP. And, predator X, predator X is getting an unhealthy ammount of media coverage. It has not been described yet. It reminds me of Mapusaurus, which was supposed to be a good deal larger that Giganotosaurus, yet it actually is smaller that Tyrannosaurus. The largest specimen, that's it, the average is closer to Allosaurus size. And so, we never heard from it in the media again. |
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Post by Horridus on Mar 17, 2011 16:29:45 GMT
From what I remember, Liopleurodon (of any species) is more like circa 7-9 metres maximum; 12 metres would represent a particularly (you might even go as far as to say 'freakishly') large individual. 'Predator X' (what a fantastically cheesy name) looks to be bigger, although it hasn't been described yet. The huge mandible on display in the Oxford Museum has been assigned to a Pliosaurus species.
The absurd WWD Liopleurodon was a hypothetical 'largest possible' reconstruction based on a wild extrapolation.There's no way it was anywhere near blue whale size.
Oh, and why does everyone always forget the sperm whale? That thing's a real monster, and before hunting reduced the gene pool the bulls probably grew to even larger sizes! Plus it battles giant squid. Sperm whales are cool...
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Mar 17, 2011 23:00:21 GMT
I was always under the impression that "mosasaurus" wasn't that large - now tylosaurus is another story....
And liopleurodon can be cool without being the "biggest predator evar!!!11. " .
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Post by stoneage on Mar 18, 2011 1:46:53 GMT
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