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Post by Dinotoyforum on Mar 31, 2011 17:43:33 GMT
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Post by Horridus on Mar 31, 2011 17:46:06 GMT
"Tyrannosaurines are a specialised group of gigantic theropods - a group of dinosaurs that likely evolved into modern birds."
No, Mr Walker, they INCLUDE modern birds. (Well, if I can't be nitpicky on a forum full of nerds, where CAN I be nitpicky?)
Quite exciting news. I'll have to have a check around the 'blogosphere' (sorry) too.
Edit: having been to Dave Hone's blog, it turns out it's an early leak, breaking the embargo on the paper. He'll be posting on it soon.
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Post by Trexroarr on Mar 31, 2011 18:08:48 GMT
This is DEFINITELY a dinosaur that I'd love to be made into a figure. Since Safari Ltd. apparently loves to make figures of newly discovered speices lately, maybe we'll see this guy in 2012, as a new addition to WS or Carnegie! ;D
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Post by neovenator08 on Mar 31, 2011 18:10:48 GMT
Cool! But that's one hell of a name!  |
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Mar 31, 2011 18:11:10 GMT
I'm friends with Dave - the journal posted an uncorrected proof online, as is their standard procedure, so it isn't really a leak as such. However, it was posted earlier than anticipated and without informing the authors, so its journey into the press has been messy to say the least.
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Post by eriorguez on Mar 31, 2011 21:55:33 GMT
This is DEFINITELY a dinosaur that I'd love to be made into a figure. Since Safari Ltd. apparently loves to make figures of newly discovered speices lately, maybe we'll see this guy in 2012, as a new addition to WS or Carnegie! ;D It is just the tip of the jaws. The figure would be just Tyrannosaurus/Tarbosaurus with a different name, to be honest. Still, as long as the figure is a good Tyrannosaur, it is fine; however, I'd prefeer a good Albertosaurine myself. |
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Post by stoneage on Mar 31, 2011 21:56:03 GMT
 Tyrannosaurines are a specialised group of gigantic theropods - a group of dinosaurs that likely evolved into modern birds. They didn't evolve into anything they went extinct!
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Post by EmperorDinobot on Mar 31, 2011 21:57:57 GMT
It's based on very fragmentary remains, unfortunately. Lower jaws, and maxillia.
I bet it's gonna end up being Tarbosaurus.
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Post by Horridus on Mar 31, 2011 23:43:32 GMT
Tyrannosaurines are a specialised group of gigantic theropods - a group of dinosaurs that likely evolved into modern birds. They didn't evolve into anything they went extinct! I think Mr Walker meant that theropods evolved into modern birds, which they did (although it would be better to say that modern birds ARE theropods). However it was worded badly. Dave Hone has now blogged about this himself. It's a must-read. wp.me/pgHT5-1lx |
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Post by gwangi on Mar 31, 2011 23:54:38 GMT
Tyrannosaurines are a specialised group of gigantic theropods - a group of dinosaurs that likely evolved into modern birds. They didn't evolve into anything they went extinct! I think Mr Walker meant that theropods evolved into modern birds, which they did (although it would be better to say that modern birds ARE theropods). However it was worded badly. Dave Hone has now blogged about this himself. It's a must-read. wp.me/pgHT5-1lxAnd with that let the debating begin...again. |
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Post by simon on Mar 31, 2011 23:59:25 GMT
Am I right in guessing by that jaw that this animal had fewer teeth (and possibly a more massively built skull) than T. Rex and Tarbosaurus?
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Post by Horridus on Apr 1, 2011 0:01:37 GMT
Am I right in guessing by that jaw that this animal had fewer teeth (and possibly a more massively built skull) than T. Rex and Tarbosaurus? I don't think so. Best wait and see though. And with that let the debating begin...again. What debate...? |
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Post by Himmapaan on Apr 1, 2011 0:08:50 GMT
Are you being disingenuous?  |
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Post by zopteryx on Apr 1, 2011 0:15:45 GMT
What a great find, if only there was more of the big guy. Hopefully it won't end up getting lumped with Tarbosaurus, or Tyrannosaurus for that matter.
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Post by Horridus on Apr 1, 2011 0:18:21 GMT
What a great find, if only there was more of the big guy. Hopefully it won't end up getting lumped with Tarbosaurus, or Tyrannosaurus for that matter. Hone et al make it clear that it appears to have sufficient diagnostic characteristics to warrant a new genus. Quite apart from that, though, no one's lumped Tarbosaurus into Tyrannosaurus yet (officially) so it's probably safe. |
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Post by zopteryx on Apr 1, 2011 0:35:54 GMT
Quite apart from that, though, no one's lumped Tarbosaurus into Tyrannosaurus yet (officially) so it's probably safe. Thank goodness! |
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Post by sbell on Apr 1, 2011 0:55:02 GMT
What a great find, if only there was more of the big guy. Hopefully it won't end up getting lumped with Tarbosaurus, or Tyrannosaurus for that matter. Hone et al make it clear that it appears to have sufficient diagnostic characteristics to warrant a new genus. Quite apart from that, though, no one's lumped Tarbosaurus into Tyrannosaurus yet (officially) so it's probably safe. That's not entirely true--but most of the lumping gets ignored or shouted down (there really are differences). Interestingly, the real lumpers tend to be marketers--when the Tarbosaurus bataar skeleton gets toured around with Dinos of China/Asia exhibits, it usually gets called Tyrannosaurus bataar (one guess why that would be! ;D) But in general, scientists agree that they are, and should remain, separate. |
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Post by Godzillasaurus on Apr 1, 2011 2:56:56 GMT
6 tonnes huh? fist big guy in a while. |
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Post by fooman666 on Apr 1, 2011 6:58:02 GMT
wow,what a name ;D and it's about as big as Tyrannosaurus, lots of great discoveries this year, but is it possible that it could just be a fully grown Tarbosaurus?
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Post by sid on Apr 1, 2011 9:33:08 GMT
Yay, a new Tyrannosaurid!  I would ike to make a drawing out of him... Do you think it was more similar to Tarbo or T.rex? Or i should go for a completely different restoration? |
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Tyrannosaurines are a specialised group of gigantic theropods - a group of dinosaurs that likely evolved into modern birds.
