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Post by arioch on May 28, 2011 21:52:45 GMT
Thanks for the compliments! It came out unexpectedly well considering the few time I spent doing it. This afternoon I was working in something non dinosaur related, the title is " Dragon King", its unfinished though: Uploaded with ImageShack.usNow I´m going to celebrate that my football team won the european Champions League... Visca el Barça! ;D ;D See you tomorrow or in a few hours if im not in hangover...I´ll post the Sucho and another dinosaur...
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Post by hkhollinstone on May 29, 2011 6:29:30 GMT
It's looking awesome, I love dragons ;D
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Post by arioch on May 29, 2011 12:40:42 GMT
Thanks, sometimes I like to draw some dragon though obviously they look quite dinosaur like. This one is based in the SOIAF saga, I guess someone here might know it. Request #2 finished:
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on May 29, 2011 19:02:15 GMT
Nice job !
I went to look at on DA much better when downloaded. You can't hardly see the little pterosaur on the older female's snout here...it's very interesting how the male's throat pouch resembles male genitalia as well.
I think Spinosaurs in general should have longer arms and bigger claws. The tail of the male couldn't arch like that either..but Iike it ! ;D You could possibly do a little more to show the difference in the age of the two females especially. Cutting back on the lines making the younger a littler.. "smoother " in appearance will do that. Making them a little different in size and the older female could have more scars. Perhaps as a result of past mating attempts ?
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Post by arioch on May 29, 2011 19:44:45 GMT
Thanks! Not sure about the tail. It certainly looks very unlikely but Greg Paul drawed his Deinonychus bending the tail like that, who knows...I´m not an expert on dino biomechanics. The main reason for it, though was to draw the whole body (I hate when I run out of space in the sheet!). It still was meant initially to point upward, but not in such an angle Suchomimus arm lenght is about like that according skeletal reconstructions. First claw probably should be slightly bigger and more curved, at least in the male, maybe I´ll change it...regarding the females, I already did the older one somewhat bigger and chubbier, but I might add something more, like longer spikes in the granny´s back or something. Good suggestion. I feel like I´m going a bit too far with the wrinkles and folds in the last ones. Do you think they would look better with a smoother skin? And by the way the third request is on the concept stage: a herd of hypsilophodon being chased by...I´ll let you guess the predator: Uploaded with ImageShack.usLater I´ll post another complete sketch Oh and the males Sucho pouch shape was completely unintended, I swear! lol
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Post by Griffin on May 29, 2011 21:01:34 GMT
I guess an Eotyrannus.
The thing that bothers me a little about your suchumimus is the ribs showing as much as they are. I think if you toned that down it would look more realistic. I also think the tail shouldn't be bent like that (Although I understand your frustration with regards to everything not fitting on the page).
Perhaps tone down the detail on the two background animals. It may give it more depth.
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Post by arioch on May 29, 2011 21:34:04 GMT
Yep an Eotyrannus( easy one though) At first I thought of a Neovenator but I´m reserving that one for something more spectacular. You´re right on the ribs, the shading in general was too accentuate here. Later I toned it down a bit (but I only posted it in DA), and now I did some few changes. Resized claws and added some spikes, also I used some blur effect on the females and lightened their shading for that sense of depth. Unfortunately it is too late to fix the tail.
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Post by arioch on May 30, 2011 3:25:12 GMT
Deinocheirus mirificus confronting a hungry Tarbosaurus Bataar.
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Post by neovenator08 on May 30, 2011 7:57:51 GMT
Yep an Eotyrannus( easy one though) At first I thought of a Neovenator but I´m reserving that one for something more spectacular. I can't wait! Great drawings BTW. Love the Suchomimus one!
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on May 30, 2011 8:09:12 GMT
Yep an Eotyrannus( easy one though) At first I thought of a Neovenator but I´m reserving that one for something more spectacular. You´re right on the ribs, the shading in general was too accentuate here. Later I toned it down a bit (but I only posted it in DA), and now I did some few changes. Resized claws and added some spikes, also I used some blur effect on the females and lightened their shading for that sense of depth. Unfortunately it is too late to fix the tail. Quite a bit better. I wouldn't worry too much about the tail..a little artistic liberty is fine anyway bud. Using the smoother skin is just away to differentiate the animals in the pic..any method that helps the viewer get it what's going on a bit more. Younger animals might be sleeker of skin and older ones more " haggard " in appearance. If you color it, the older female could have a more muted skin color as well to show her age. The spines look nice but but the length on the male and the older female imply both are older. You could make the female's broken or damaged here or there show where they've regrown after being damaged. I like the Hypsilophodon expressions !
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Post by arioch on May 30, 2011 21:33:08 GMT
Oh, all that would come in the colour version, then I will finish all the details ....meanwhile I´m looking for someone who could do a pro digital painting, seeing that I´m unable to do it by myself. And by the way, #3 request finished: I recommend to watch it on the DA gallery so you can apreciate the details better (and the imperfections, but I don´t care) durbed.deviantart.com/art/Eotyrannus-on-the-hunt-211012189
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on May 31, 2011 5:25:01 GMT
I like the Raccoon tail of the Eotyrannus.. lol
I wish I could find an artist to partner with and color my work...I post on DA that anyone wanting to color my work can do so..I just want to be ask so I can see it later. ;D
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Post by arioch on May 31, 2011 8:39:59 GMT
I like the Raccoon tail of the Eotyrannus.. lol The tail and feathery are actually based in Cheshires cat...its an English dinosaur after all! ;D Any thought on the Deinocheirus?
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Post by arioch on May 31, 2011 14:08:20 GMT
Quite a few time since I did something of this kind, (and I´m sorry for it!) In Soviet Russia, Olorotitan draws me!
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Post by Horridus on May 31, 2011 16:30:44 GMT
Any thought on the Deinocheirus? Only that if the arms are that size relative to the rest of the animal, the animal must be freakin' GIGANTIC. But that's fine - after all, no one has found any of the rest of it. (And if they have, they're keeping it quiet...) I really liked the Eotyrannus v Hypsilophodon one. I really think that with some of these you should develop them a bit more, add some colour and a background maybe. That one would be a good candidate.
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Post by arioch on May 31, 2011 16:59:30 GMT
I´m currently looking for some good artist in Deviant Art willing to do a collaboration. Eotyrannus, Ouranosaurus, Gorgosaurus and Argentinosaurus are between the candidates. Maybe also Acrocanthosaurus. A friend of mine could do a decent colouring and background, but he is a lazy a** completely unreliable and anyway I´m not sure if he would follow my instructions.
And well if can´t find anyone , I guess this summer I will be very busy developing my skills for that purpose...
About the Deinocheirus, and I know your comment wasn´t meant as a criticism, keep in mind the arms would look longer in a profile shot, here they are spreaded outwards (like the swan of your signature)
Speaking of which I have personal doubts about its classification as ornithomimosaur. I spent some time studying ornithomimosaur anathomy for this drawing and Deino arms look proportionally shorter in relation to the hand and fingers, and the claws more curved than the smaller species to which he is supposedly related to... To me actually they seem strikingly similar to Oviraptors. Is there any chance the arms belonged to an animal related to Gigantoraptor?
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Post by arioch on May 31, 2011 19:05:56 GMT
Request #4 in concept stage: Batrachotomus hunting frogs. Uploaded with ImageShack.usIts amazing how this animals skull and teeth resemble tyrannosaur ones. Convergent evolution anyone? On a side note, the Neovenator sketch is about 80% done. Maybe tonight I could reveal something.
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Post by Himmapaan on May 31, 2011 20:49:09 GMT
Here's a thought whilst you find a collaborator/develop digital painting skills: why not try working entire pieces traditionally?
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Post by arioch on May 31, 2011 21:14:13 GMT
You mean with watercolors? I have zero skill on that.... I could try but I´m afraid it would end very bad... By the way I made that Olorotitan inspired by your work!
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Post by Himmapaan on May 31, 2011 21:23:05 GMT
Hehe, thank you. ;D It needn't necessarily be with watercolours; you might choose any traditional medium. Quality coloured pencils, for example, are very versatile and you can get excellent control with them.
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