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Post by arioch on Jul 7, 2011 0:20:40 GMT
What would they use then? I would bet on mutual scratching (maybe they were more social than we think) and also mutual brooming of the plumage, if they had any.
As you say, the angle of the femur is also worrrying. But it was the only posture in which it could reach any zone above the torso. Although maybe theropod legs were even less bendy than in modern birds , like the limbs.
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Post by Himmapaan on Jul 7, 2011 0:27:59 GMT
By the way I´m starting to hate tyrannosaurs and their weird anatomy....my next drawing would likely revolve around ceratopsians butchering more of this weirdos.  |
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Post by Griffin on Jul 7, 2011 1:27:31 GMT
What would they use then? I would bet on mutual scratching (maybe they were more social than we think) and also mutual brooming of the plumage, if they had any. As you say, the angle of the femur is also worrrying. But it was the only posture in which it could reach any zone above the torso. Although maybe theropod legs were even less bendy than in modern birds , like the limbs. I dont know what does a rhino or an elephant use when its back itches? Maybe a tree or perhaps they had a symbiotic relationship with birds or something. |
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Post by arioch on Jul 7, 2011 4:23:14 GMT
By the way I´m starting to hate tyrannosaurs and their weird anatomy....my next drawing would likely revolve around ceratopsians butchering more of this weirdos. I swear it! they will never win again against any hervibore in any of my drawings, nor they will manage to flee unscathed and avoiding the punishment they deserve.  Here´s the revised concept, I added two playful chickens to make the scene less dull:  Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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Post by Griffin on Jul 7, 2011 12:16:40 GMT
Better  |
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Post by Horridus on Jul 7, 2011 15:17:38 GMT
Better What he said By the way, I really like the feathery crests and wattles. And the expression on the male's face ;D |
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Post by arioch on Jul 8, 2011 19:48:48 GMT
Thanks! And sorry for the delay with the Triceratops, I´m a bit busy with college stuff. However, the stego is finished:  |
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Post by Himmapaan on Jul 8, 2011 19:57:16 GMT
Love it!
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Post by Griffin on Jul 8, 2011 20:47:42 GMT
Really like the bipedal steg. You should put a shadow on him from the theropod though.
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Post by Horridus on Jul 9, 2011 23:49:46 GMT
Awesome Stego! I don't mind the lack of shadow (depends where the light is coming from) but I think you should at least include a line for the ground underneath its feet. That would finish it off. By the way, regarding the concept of other creatures acting out their lives on Stego's back, did you take any inspiration from Fantasia?  |
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Post by arioch on Jul 10, 2011 17:45:13 GMT
Thanks guys! yes maybe I´ll add some shade under the plates (like in the Miragaia) and under the ornitholestes, and some trees and background as well. Awesome Stego! I don't mind the lack of shadow (depends where the light is coming from) but I think you should at least include a line for the ground underneath its feet. That would finish it off. By the way, regarding the concept of other creatures acting out their lives on Stego's back, did you take any inspiration from Fantasia? Uhm, actually I dont remember much from the mesozoic part of Fantasia, apart from a chubby Stego fleeing from the Tyranno-allosaurus and eventually being chased by it. And when they´re starving in the desert. Now that you mention it I think I´ll look for it in youtube.... The two animals in the stegos back are just an humorous piece....  |
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Post by Horridus on Jul 10, 2011 18:17:38 GMT
I distinctly remember some animals scrambling over a (chubby) Stegosaurus' back in Fantasia...
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Post by arioch on Jul 10, 2011 18:29:48 GMT
Found a clip of the whole dinosaur segment in the movie:
Is impressive how good some of this creatures look for a 1940 animation, specially the pteranodons and sea reptiles.
The dinosaurs falling over stego back seems to be some sort of arboreal hipsilophodontids....
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Post by Horridus on Jul 10, 2011 18:33:57 GMT
They probably are arboreal hypsilophodonts, that idea was popular for a long time (bizarrely).
And you're right about the film. Actually the whole thing has always really impressed me. The timing and the fact that it was all done by hand...mind-blowing.
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Post by arioch on Jul 10, 2011 18:45:58 GMT
Just noticed that even elasmosaurs have a fluke on the tail. Wow.
After watching it again I must admit I still feel terrible when they are starving in the desert, just like when I saw it like 15 years ago. Gotta love Disneys cruelty toward kids.
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Post by Griffin on Jul 10, 2011 21:18:28 GMT
lol the baby trikes are so cute. Are those prosauropods digging for...clams? Eh no clue. Ive seen this many times but never really thought about it.
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Post by Himmapaan on Jul 10, 2011 21:25:41 GMT
And you're right about the film. Actually the whole thing has always really impressed me. The timing and the fact that it was all done by hand...mind-blowing. Aye. These days, the mention of Disney produces mixed reactions, but in their early days, they were real pioneers in the art of animation. Fantasia also played a part in introducing children to some very significant pieces of Classical music. Though Stravinsky actually objected to their treatment of his Rite of Spring for that dinosaur sequence, not only because of the cuts and changes they made to the music, but because his vision for the piece was entirely different. |
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Post by Horridus on Jul 10, 2011 21:44:58 GMT
I was aware of Stravinsky's issues with Disney's use of the piece. It did introduce a lot of people to his work though - people who might be interested to hear his own interpretation.
Also, dinosaurs.
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Post by Himmapaan on Jul 10, 2011 21:50:56 GMT
I was aware of Stravinsky's issues with Disney's use of the piece. It did introduce a lot of people to his work though - people who might be interested to hear his own interpretation. Yes. Again, I wasn't suggesting you didn't know, by the way. Just that I could talk forever about animation and Classical music... ;D And when they're combined: doubly awesome. And yes. ;D |
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Post by arioch on Jul 12, 2011 23:15:10 GMT
Triceratops finished!  |
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