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Post by arioch on Sept 22, 2011 16:35:29 GMT
Talos sampsoni, a recently described new troodontid from the Upper Cretaceous of Utah. www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0024487Since the specimen appears to have an injury in the sickle claw of the left toe, I imagined Talos hurting itself accidentally while kicking a snake secretary bird-style. Of course this is completely speculative.
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Post by Himmapaan on Sept 22, 2011 18:20:34 GMT
Everybody's drawing this beast, it seems! ;D
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Post by arioch on Sept 22, 2011 19:09:47 GMT
Then you already know what you should be doing next! ;D
(I´m not very happy with this one btw...)
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Post by Himmapaan on Sept 22, 2011 19:48:46 GMT
No pressure then. ;D
Why aren't you happy with it?
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Post by arioch on Sept 22, 2011 20:20:11 GMT
I don´t know, looks a bit...bland? Not what I was expecting to achieve. I´ve worked a bite more on it and looks somewhat better, at least to me: durbed.deviantart.com/#/d4al0jdCan´t wait to see your Talos! Ah, and maybe tomorrow I´ll be posting another piece (its about ceratopsian having a lot of fun)
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Post by Himmapaan on Sept 22, 2011 20:33:04 GMT
Ah, yes, the stripes do make it more striking. Crumbs, I hadn't promised, but now you've completely roped me into doing a Talos too. Looking forward to the ceratopsian!
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Post by Griffin on Sept 23, 2011 2:36:24 GMT
the eyespot on the tail is cool. What did you base the snake off of?
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Post by arioch on Sept 23, 2011 4:33:30 GMT
Its mostly made up, but I was thinking of some sort of primitive adder.... By the way M. Martinyuk just told me that there are no evidence of "legless" cretaceous snakes, all found specimens seem to preserve some kind of small vestigial stumps (thats odd, I thought "modern" snakes appeared much earlier) . So maybe it probably should need some "surgery"... Although I´d like to look it out by myself before doing anything (I dont even know where those legs should go lol). Check out the update, I´ve been working on the textures: durbed.deviantart.com/#/d4al0jd
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Post by Griffin on Sept 23, 2011 14:25:46 GMT
All the snakes in the cretaceous would have been like a boa or python. Modern boas and pythons have leg and pelvis bones as well (in males they actually stick out in the form of mating spurs) so I wouldn't worry about giving it actual legs since that stuff would be vestigial and most likely internal. I would just change the head.
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Post by Seijun on Sept 23, 2011 16:59:54 GMT
What an neat drawing! I really like art that depicts predators hunting small game. It has a very "refreshing" feel to it. And I must say, all the feathered raptors on the forum lately are wonderful.
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Post by arioch on Sept 23, 2011 23:31:39 GMT
Thanks! To be honest I wasn´t very happy with it at the beginning, but now that I worked more in the texture I´m more satisfied. And I agree, it would be nice to see more depictions of theropods dealing with smaller stuff, specially troodontids which really had little option judging by their adaptations. All the snakes in the cretaceous would have been like a boa or python. Modern boas and pythons have leg and pelvis bones as well (in males they actually stick out in the form of mating spurs) so I wouldn't worry about giving it actual legs since that stuff would be vestigial and most likely internal. I would just change the head. I think the legs in those mesozoic snakes are somewhat bigger and more robust so probably they would stick a bit more from the sides, but I have to check it out , I´m not really sure. I won´t add them by now but like you said it might look better with a python like head, it seems a bit too fat for being an adder.
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Post by Sparkleopteryx on Sept 23, 2011 23:53:36 GMT
Now THAT is a great design. I don't see anything wrong with it (but I know we are our own worst critics ) and I'm in love with your color design. A beautiful job! Look forward to more.... Angie
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Post by arioch on Sept 24, 2011 4:40:54 GMT
Hey, very glad you liked it! that´s very flattering coming from an artist with such an outstanding talent and good taste for color designs...
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Post by arioch on Sept 30, 2011 0:26:15 GMT
Pentaceratops and Daspletosaurus, finished.
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Post by Libraraptor on Sept 30, 2011 7:22:31 GMT
Pentaceratops and Daspletosaurus, finished. Whoa, that´s brutal! I really like it!
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Post by arioch on Oct 1, 2011 11:15:22 GMT
Thanks.
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Post by Himmapaan on Oct 1, 2011 15:40:53 GMT
Now that is drama! ;D It's all beautifully drawn of course, but for some reason, I like the Pentaceratops' hind feet in particular.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Oct 1, 2011 17:33:31 GMT
Your shading and color are getting so much better ..all the while keeping a nice level of detail. ;D
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Post by arioch on Oct 1, 2011 18:52:59 GMT
Thanks guys, I´m quite happy specially with the Penta colors, came even better than what I was aiming fo. Spend some more time with the smaller details than in previous drawings definitely worths it. It's all beautifully drawn of course, but for some reason, I like the Pentaceratops' hind feet in particular. You seem to have some kind of fetish with ceratopsian feet? I remember you said the same about my Triceratops. ;D Or maybe it is related with how their relative gracileness (is that even a word?) funnily contrasts with the bulky body?
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Post by Himmapaan on Oct 1, 2011 20:30:55 GMT
Haha, have I said that before? The latter reason certainly has much to do with it (I have an incomplete drawing of a hippo-shaped horse with tiny, tiny, hooves, for instance). I do happen to enjoy contrasts of that kind (cf. my love for sauropods, which manage to be massive yet still graceful). But also, these feet are just really beautifully drawn. Feet can be tricky things, and when they're done well, it makes a huge difference.
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