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Post by arioch on Apr 29, 2011 19:14:40 GMT
As I said you dont need to apologize..I was kidding.  I think I finally got it. The left leg angle looks more natural now too.  |
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Post by Horridus on Apr 29, 2011 19:29:33 GMT
That's nailed it. Superb. I particularly like the patterns on the head.
(Actually...erm...sorry, but I'm now concerned about the right hand. You seem to have highly reduced the innermost finger (equivalent to human thumb), when in fact it was used for walking on.)
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Post by arioch on Apr 29, 2011 19:58:43 GMT
Oh, thats easy to fix. But now Im working in another shading. I love this stuff.
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Post by arioch on Apr 29, 2011 23:03:53 GMT
A small update on the bird thief. Also I have fixed the Centrosaur.   Does the half beak in Ichtyornis look a bit weird?? |
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Post by arioch on Apr 30, 2011 10:51:41 GMT
And now for something completely different... This is my tribute to one of my favourite old stock dinosaur illustrations. I believe some of you might recognize it. ;D  Uploaded with ImageShack.us |
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Post by hkhollinstone on Apr 30, 2011 16:05:44 GMT
Wow, your recent one is amazing!!
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Post by Horridus on Apr 30, 2011 16:24:50 GMT
Dryptosaurus, looking ferocious...I'm sure Griffin will like this one. Also: Does the half beak in Ichtyornis look a bit weird?? Yes, although that's the animal's fault, not yours! |
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Apr 30, 2011 17:05:32 GMT
I always thought it was odd these guys were fighting so ferociously and yet they have no scars, blood or bruising.. ( would a dinosaur's skin bruise ? ) those tiny details really add to the overall piece for me.
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Post by arioch on Apr 30, 2011 19:04:32 GMT
Bingo!  I always thought it was odd these guys were fighting so ferociously and yet they have no scars, blood or bruising.. That´s your only complaint about a 1940 terribly wrong -though charming- drawing which depicted 2 theropods as some sort of angry kangaroos? ;D But you´re right, the definitive coloured version of my version might have have bleeding injuries and stuff. Good point. |
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Post by Griffin on Apr 30, 2011 22:07:58 GMT
Yay Dryptosaurus! Looks good. Just may wanna make the first finger claw bigger. I've held casts of that claw and let me tell you it was absolutely massive. Think Spinosaur hand.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on May 1, 2011 2:48:05 GMT
I always thought it was odd these guys were fighting so ferociously and yet they have no scars, blood or bruising.. That´s your only complaint about a 1940 terribly wrong -though charming- drawing which depicted 2 theropods as some sort of angry kangaroos? ;D But you´re right, the definitive coloured version of my version might have have bleeding injuries and stuff. Good point. I actually don't mind all the other stuff it's still a great piece of artwork..and from a time when theropods were still considered slow, awkward, tail draggers. This image though it still has it's imperfections was way ahead of it's time.. I don't have the paleo knowledge others have..but I do know two animals fighting like that would easily have wounds from the battle...and those are the details I like to see.. ;D |
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Post by arioch on May 1, 2011 5:23:16 GMT
Well this is what I have so far...not really sold on the colours, I´m thinking of using another more striking scheme, like red skin with yellow stripes or something like that. Is also incomplete.  Check the hand claws I have resized. Not sure if they´re right now. By the way is there any updated pic or article about this, Griffin? last news I had about this dinosaur were when he was still considered just an small and identical cousin of the T. rex. That´s your only complaint about a 1940 terribly wrong -though charming- drawing which depicted 2 theropods as some sort of angry kangaroos? ;D But you´re right, the definitive coloured version of my version might have have bleeding injuries and stuff. Good point. I actually don't mind all the other stuff it's still a great piece of artwork..and from a time when theropods were still considered slow, awkward, tail draggers. This image though it still has it's imperfections was way ahead of it's time.. I don't have the paleo knowledge others have..but I do know two animals fighting like that would easily have wounds from the battle...and those are the details I like to see.. ;D Yes, this old drawing is actually quite vanguardist for what theropods were thought to be in the time it was done! Thats one of the reasons why I like it so much. Even if they´re not correct at all, theres nothing in those Drypto-Kangaroos thats makes you think in slow, cold blooded, clumsy oversized lizards... Hell they´re better than a lot of modern paleoart I see everyday. |
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Post by Horridus on May 1, 2011 14:23:46 GMT
That´s your only complaint about a 1940 terribly wrong -though charming- drawing which depicted 2 theropods as some sort of angry kangaroos? ;D 1940!?! Try 1897! Even more 'ahead of its time' than you thought, it would seem...actually, that's not so surprising. People were actually thinking that dinosaurs might have been active animals - and even that there might be a dinosaur-bird link - in the 19th century. The idea fell out of favour in the dinosaur 'dark age' during the first half of the 20th century, only to be revived later in the Dino Renaissance. |
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Post by arioch on May 1, 2011 14:49:18 GMT
That´s really impressive. I readed somewhere that it were done in the 40´s...they really look like the kind of dinosaurs depictions of that time (think in a Harryhausen monster), just way more dinamic.
But why did such ideas fall into oblivion with the new century?
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Post by Horridus on May 1, 2011 15:35:11 GMT
But why did such ideas fall into oblivion with the new century? I'm not sure exactly. I think the research just stagnated, and dinosaurs were basically viewed as sluggish monsters that were doomed to extinction. One view - that they were cold-blooded and highly reptilian - won out over the other. |
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Post by arioch on May 1, 2011 18:38:46 GMT
Whichever was the reason..it was a real shame. And while we are on it, a very quick one: scratching Lagosuchus ;D .  By the way, what´s todays consensus on sauropods standing in their hind legs? could they really do that? I´m currently doing one ( a diplodocid). |
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Post by Horridus on May 1, 2011 18:51:14 GMT
People still argue about rearing sauropods. Out of all of them, diplodocids appear among the best equipped to do it.
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Post by arioch on May 1, 2011 19:12:36 GMT
Oh, then I´ll go with it.
Im not convinced either that they could do it. The tail seems way too fragile for that. But they look epic in that way nonetheless.
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Post by Horridus on May 1, 2011 19:24:07 GMT
Im not convinced either that they could do it. The tail seems way too fragile for that. But they look epic in that way nonetheless. Well, Mallison (2009) came to the conclusion that while rearing would have been very difficult, if not impossible, for brachiosaurs it probably would have been easy for diplodocids - in fact, easier than for elephants. I wouldn't write it off. |
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Post by Himmapaan on May 1, 2011 19:39:19 GMT
Ooh, I'm looking forward to seeing your rearing diplodocid. ;D Bizarrely enough, I actually dreamt that I drew one... Perhaps you were communicating telepathically. ;D
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