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Post by arioch on May 1, 2011 19:53:08 GMT
What about Titanosaurs? they´re between diplodocids and brachiosaurs- the upper and lower body about equally heavy. If not the upper part seems slightly heavier and taller, but not for much. This is what I have so far. Is an Amphicoelias. Any thought before I grab the pen?   |
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Post by DinoLord on May 1, 2011 22:36:57 GMT
Not bad. A few details of the anatomy could be worked out, but nice concept.
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Post by arioch on May 1, 2011 22:48:17 GMT
Which details? I want it to be as perfect as possible. Amphi must be a generic diplodocid with a bit of gigantism since we only have a few vertebrae of him, IIRC.
Edited the last post with a better pic.
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Post by DinoLord on May 1, 2011 23:08:10 GMT
The neck musculature is off, and the shoulder area isn't looking too great. The Allo's skull is a bit unshapely too.
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Post by arioch on May 1, 2011 23:19:48 GMT
What I thought. I wasn´t too sure about the shoulder area and the base of the neck. Im not too used to do sauropods, so I guess is a bit theropod -like...lol.
Do you know any reliable diagram or modern sauropod reconstruction which I could use ?
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Post by DinoLord on May 1, 2011 23:24:26 GMT
If you have The Princeton Field Guide to Dinosaurs by Greg Paul, it has a lot of great skeletals and musculature diagrams. Scott Hartman also has some nice skeletal refs at his website skeletaldrawing.com and on DeviantArt (his username there is shartman). Also, I look at paintings by reliable paleoartists such as Raul Martin for reference on specific angles.
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Post by Horridus on May 1, 2011 23:26:24 GMT
Arioch - there are also two species of Amphicoelias, A. altus and A. fragillimus. From what you've said I presume you've gone for the latter...
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Post by arioch on May 1, 2011 23:43:27 GMT
Yep, I have some Hartman pictures in my favourites and chatted a bit with him about his awesome Velociraptor in Deviant Art. Sadly I dont have Greg Paul book. And yes Horridus, is A. fragilimus. What is supposed to be the largest (though probably not the heavier) dinosaur known till date.  Allosaur head is easy to fix- to be honest I wasnt paying too many attention to it (in the sheet he is really tiny and including him was sort of joke-ish) |
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Post by Himmapaan on May 2, 2011 0:18:54 GMT
The neck musculature is off, and the shoulder area isn't looking too great. The Allo's skull is a bit unshapely too. Don't pull any punches, will you. ;D |
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Post by arioch on May 2, 2011 0:20:42 GMT
Ok, some fast corrections ...not sure if the neural spines should be taller....shoulder muscles are emphasized with dull shading( I have to redo it with a pencil anyway, once I finish the scales). Also I have noticed another mistake. The hips in the adult sauropod -which in a profile shot, should be lowered under the spine. You tell me if I got it right.  Uploaded with ImageShack.us By the way any tips on the Lagosuchus ? ;D |
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Post by DinoLord on May 2, 2011 0:55:16 GMT
Much better. The neural spines look fine to me, but they could be a bit taller on the tail. And how am I pulling punches?
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Post by Himmapaan on May 2, 2011 2:01:15 GMT
You're not; that was precisely my joke.
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Post by arioch on May 2, 2011 2:02:05 GMT
Nice. Thanks for the help. I´m a bit ashamed I didnt know more about sauropod anathomy, but I always have considered them a bit boring to draw so I retained very little of the tons of modern reconstructions I´ve seen of them. This days I´m forcing myself to do all kind of dinos though and I actually enjoyed doing this . PS: I love Raul Martin art but he still seems a bit reluctant to put proper feathers where they are meant to be.... |
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Post by Himmapaan on May 2, 2011 2:05:24 GMT
...but I always have considered them a bit boring to draw...  |
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Post by arioch on May 2, 2011 2:08:55 GMT
Yeah, its like they have the dynamism of a coffee pot. But I still like them! God how much I regret start doing scales on those... First colouring test, keep it or change it?  |
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Post by Horridus on May 2, 2011 17:49:43 GMT
Keep it, I say. Perfectly decent colour scheme!
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on May 2, 2011 17:58:58 GMT
Agreed.
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Post by arioch on May 2, 2011 20:11:14 GMT
Thanks...This is my favourite colouring by far...I wish I had best photoshop knowledge to give my drawings some "pro" threatment and a realistic look. I´m learning very slowly.
Just give me some time to finish this one- I can´t think of a more exhausting task than filling this fat fella with tiny scales...
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Post by Horridus on May 2, 2011 20:18:54 GMT
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Post by Griffin on May 2, 2011 20:36:27 GMT
I don't think sauropods would have had cheeks. Also I'm not sure they could actually rear up that steeply. I know the Barosaurus mount in the AMNH is considered not really plausible anymore. They could still rear but it would have been at a more horizontal angle I'm pretty sure. Also back on the Drypto. I'm friends with the guy who has made it his business to raise awareness on this dinosaur. Whenever anything remotely Dryptosaurus-related goes on he knows about it. This is his site if you care to look. dryptosaurus.blogspot.com/ To my knowledge isolated bones from the NJ area have been found since the first specimen in the 1800s but nothing groundbreaking. When asked most experts would say that Dryptosaurus would have been similar to something like Gorgosaurus except give it long arms with the three fingers, digit one being big. Another good reference animal would be Appalachiasaurus. The paleoartist Robert Walters seems convinced it was a Spinosaur. But for now the most credible assumption would be slender tyrannosaurid with long arms and 3 fingers. |
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