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Post by gwangi on Apr 17, 2011 3:09:25 GMT
Today at New York's Museum of the Earth I had the good fortune to attend a panel discussion on dinosaurs in art and how the general public's perception of dinosaurs has been influenced by it. One of the panelists was Gregory S. Paul. Each of the panelists gave a brief presentation. The first was by paleontologist Dr. Warren Allmon who mostly studies fossil invertebrates. He gave a brief background history of dinosaur discoveries and representations...Crystal Palace Park, Charles Knight, the dinosaur Renaissance, we all know the story. Following him was Chris Wildrick who is a conceptual artist that teaches at Syracuse University. He discussed his work in determining how the public thinks dinosaurs should look. He does things like see how many dinosaurs people can name in a minute and compiles the results, evidently the only dinosaur every person surveyed included in their list was Tyrannosaurus. He also has people mimic how they think dinosaurs sound and draw what they think they should look like. He talked about all that and it was pretty interesting. Finally we got to G. S. Paul and he mostly talked about his new book and feathered dinosaurs and how he reconstructed them. After that was the best part, a Q & A session but alas, I had no questions come to mind until after I was back home...figures. He also did a book signing so I got to talk to him a bit directly and of course get my copy of "The Princeton Field Guide to Dinosaurs" signed! Needless to say it was a great dinosaur filled evening and an experience I'll never forget.   One question I wanted to ask but did not need to was what was the oldest piece of artwork representing a feathered dinosaur and also what his first feathered dinosaur was. According to Paul the oldest feathered dinosaur art was a coelophysis drawn for Scientific American in 1975 but I cannot recall the artist's name. His personal first was an allosaurus attacking some sauropods but he later removed the feathering, I guess that was in the 70's as well.  Any questions...feel free to ask. EDIT: I forgot to mention that the discussion was moderated by paleontologist Richard Kissel who wrote the kid's book "Evolving Planet: Four Billion Years of Life on Earth." |
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Post by DinoLord on Apr 17, 2011 3:13:20 GMT
Did he tell you not to use his skeletal drawings? ;D
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Post by gwangi on Apr 17, 2011 3:23:41 GMT
Did he tell you not to use his skeletal drawings? ;D LOL, that whole ordeal did come up during the Q & A. Not how he is trying to copyright that pose (which is ridiculous) but copyright infringement in general (which is serious). As he spoke I wondered how he felt about the museum's logo which is a coelophysis silhouette and you can see it in the picture of the panelists. |
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Post by Seijun on Apr 17, 2011 19:34:25 GMT
Coelophysis has bunny hands.
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Post by Horridus on Apr 17, 2011 19:50:29 GMT
Coelophysis has bunny hands. To be fair, that illustration is pretty old. Oh, and congrats Gwangi! |
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Post by gwangi on Apr 17, 2011 20:22:14 GMT
Coelophysis has bunny hands. To be fair, that illustration is pretty old. Oh, and congrats Gwangi! Yeah, I think bunny hands was forgivable in 1975. That is like looking at a Knight piece and saying "its dragging it's tail". Thanks Horridus! |
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Post by Himmapaan on Apr 17, 2011 20:26:36 GMT
Brilliant!
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Post by Libraraptor on Apr 17, 2011 22:31:37 GMT
Thanks for sharing this!
Isn´t that "Coelophysis" a R.T.Bakker Syntarsus?!
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Post by Horridus on Apr 17, 2011 22:40:41 GMT
Isn´t that "Coelophysis" a R.T.Bakker Syntarsus?! Which was renamed Megapnosaurus...and should probably be sunk into Coelophysis. |
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Post by Griffin on Apr 17, 2011 23:35:28 GMT
Wow lucky! Must have been something great to listen to.
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Post by gwangi on Apr 18, 2011 0:24:00 GMT
Thanks for sharing this! Isn´t that "Coelophysis" a R.T.Bakker Syntarsus?! I'm glad you brought that up. I looked up the April 1975 issue where that picture appears on Google to try and see if I could find who the artist was. While looking through the search results I found that Robert Bakker actually wrote his article "Dinosaur Renaissance" for that issue. That made me realize I actually have the "Dinosaur Renaissance" offprint so I sprang to my library to get it. The illustration is indeed with Bakker's article but it was Michael Raath who illustrated what is labeled as a syntarsus. Looks like I had the answer to what the first feathered dinosaur illustration was in my hands all along. I also noticed in William Stout's "Dinosaurs" an almost exact drawing of a feathered syntarsus. |
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Post by zopteryx on Apr 19, 2011 2:04:19 GMT
Very Neat Gwangi!
Did he happen to mention if he was planning to make supplements to the current dino field guide, and/or make another "ancient guide" about pterosaurs or marine reptiles? If this didn't come up, does anyone think he or someone else will?
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Post by gwangi on Apr 19, 2011 2:38:49 GMT
Very Neat Gwangi! Did he happen to mention if he was planning to make supplements to the current dino field guide, and/or make another "ancient guide" about pterosaurs or marine reptiles? If this didn't come up, does anyone think he or someone else will? If I'm not mistaken I believe he mentioned a guide to extinct birds in the works which should be exciting to most of us. |
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Post by Himmapaan on Apr 19, 2011 19:42:55 GMT
If I'm not mistaken I believe he mentioned a guide to extinct birds in the works which should be exciting to most of us. Neat! Um, when did I start dropping Americanisms, by the way?  ;D |
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Post by Griffin on Apr 19, 2011 20:16:05 GMT
Did anyone ask about the way he depicts hadrosaur necks? Them being probably too thick and all?
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Post by gwangi on Apr 20, 2011 12:33:31 GMT
Did anyone ask about the way he depicts hadrosaur necks? Them being probably too thick and all? Crap, no one asked. That would have been a good question though. |
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Post by paleoferroequine on Apr 20, 2011 16:22:04 GMT
If I'm not mistaken I believe he mentioned a guide to extinct birds in the works which should be exciting to most of us. Neat! Um, when did I start dropping Americanisms, by the way? ;D Probably sometime after I started dropping British ones. ;D Cursed internet and the BBC!!  |
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Post by wildrick on May 13, 2011 14:30:03 GMT
Gwangi,
I'm Chris Wildrick, the artist from the panel. I like the picture you took of us, and I occasionally can use stuff like that for my website, etc., for promotional purposes. Could I get your permission to use that picture? If you like I can list your name as the photo credit. (As Gwangi, or whatever your real name is!)
Thanks,
Chris
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