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Post by Seijun on May 31, 2011 18:17:06 GMT
Does anyone have a really well used DR saurolophus that they would be willing to part with for cheap? I want to customize one into a parasaurolophus ;D Please please please??
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jun 1, 2011 16:49:13 GMT
You know...I though about doing a DR Para custom before. I think to blend into the line better a Kaiyodo vinyl Para would make a good base. Add the realistic eyes give it a good paint job then start adding armor..I recommend the Triceratop's big guns for something heavy. Maybe style the brainbox after the Rulon Pteranodon ? I actually started a sketch of one somewhere around here.. :?
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Post by Seijun on Jun 1, 2011 17:49:44 GMT
Was there ever a para in the DR show?
I am not concerned about gear really, just the dino. Saurolophus seemed like a good choice to customize because
-It's the only hadrosaur in the DR lineup
-In real life, the para and sauro were nearly the same size and had extremely similar bodies (and even skulls to an extent)
-Tyco had no problem reusing the same body for multiple dinos if they could get away with it
I imagine if DR had chosen to make a para, the probably would have just resculpted the saurolo's head. Maybe even done nothing more than add a crest and repaint. That is, assuming the paras in the show were not drastically different from the sauros (if there was a para).
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jun 2, 2011 1:34:47 GMT
I'm not 100% sure...I haven't seen all the episodes yet. There might be some in background shots..but they would really match the toys a lot anyway.
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Post by emperorkrulos on Jun 2, 2011 19:39:34 GMT
I don't remember seeing a para either. Though I do remember seeing a lambeosaurcorythosaur (see screenshot). It's in the first episode right before the valorian ship crash lands.  |
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Post by Seijun on Jun 2, 2011 20:39:09 GMT
At that period of time, do you think a para would have been drawn with or without a sail?
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Post by emperorkrulos on Jun 3, 2011 11:14:48 GMT
I'd say without the sail.
I'm going over some stuff in my basement this weekend. Said stuff includes old books on dinosaurs that should be from around that time. I'll check and see if I can find a para somewhere in there.
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Post by Seijun on Jun 3, 2011 18:06:49 GMT
I've been trying to think of how tyco would have done things if they were making the toy. A brain box would have been much easier to install if the para saw sail-less.
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Post by emperorkrulos on Jun 5, 2011 6:08:40 GMT
At least found some of my stuff in the basement... From the books I could find: | Book Title | Year published | Length of sail in relation to length of crest | | The Scientific American Dinosaurs ( includes a picture by Charles Knight ) | 2010 (early 20th century Knights Picture) | 100% | | The Complete Dinosaur (Reprint of 1987 Dino-Card Co. card) | 1997 (1987) | 0% | | The Dinosaur Postcard Book | 1987 | 20% | | Dinosaurs A Picture Dictionary | 1990 | 20% | | Dinotopia | 1992 | 20% | | American Museum of Natural History - Corythosaurus | 1993 | 20% | | The Complete Dinosaur (Painting by Larry Felder) | 1997 | 100% | | The Complete Dinosaur (Reprint of 1997 Postal Stamp) | 1997 | 0% | | Dinosaurs - The Most Complete Up-To-Date Encyclopedia For Dinosaur Lovers of All Ages | 2007 | 100% | | The Princeton Field Guide to Dinosaurs | 2010 | 100% | | The Scientific American Dinosaurs ( Restoring the Life Appearances of Dinoaurs ) | 2010 | 100% | | The Scientific American Dinosaurs ( Skeletal Gallery ) | 2010 | 0% |
So the very short sail was popular around that time. On the other Hand Robert Bakker was their scientific adviser, so Tyco's choice would have been heavily influenced by Bakker's preferences. I've been trying to think of how tyco would have done things if they were making the toy. A brain box would have been much easier to install if the para saw sail-less. So the parasaurolophus is going to be a Rulon slave?  The (Pro)Saurolophus brainbox does not wrap around the dinosaur's crest. Couldn't you carefully heat the brainbox so it becomes pliable and fit it to the new head? So why hadn't Tyco used parasourolophus with it's more iconical headcrest instead of (Pro)Saurolophus? Part of the reasons probably were durability and cost of production. If the parasaurolophus had been produced its crest would have been as thin as the deinonychus tail, which easily broke. So they would have to use another material or engineering method to avoid that. If they had given parasaurolophus a sail, my guess is that it would've been made of the same rubber like material as the pteranodon, which again would increase production cost. |
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Post by Seijun on Jun 5, 2011 6:54:39 GMT
Wow, thanks for the info! Now all I need is a saurolophus to ruin.
Searched around for anything concerning paras and Robert Bakker. Could only find that he did not support the idea of aquatic paras. He seems to have published a few books though that might have an answer.
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Post by emperorkrulos on Jun 5, 2011 13:31:22 GMT
His Heresis is from that time. Someone around here probably has a copy laying around. Edit: Got back my copy. | Book Title | Year published | Length of sail in relation to length of crest | | The Dinosaur Heresies | 1986 | 100% |
But unlike the other 100% sails that had the sail going down straight, the sail in Bakker's book falls loosely and follows the outline of the head somewhat. The para's sail goes over into a small flap of skin that extends from the animals spine. |
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