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Post by Seijun on Dec 14, 2011 6:07:56 GMT
If I wasn't trying to complete my Safari collection, I wouldn't, lol.
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Post by amanda on Dec 14, 2011 6:19:28 GMT
Now, my understanding was that the Papo 'Tylo" was one of this year's final releases, and the Rex is new for next. Am I wrong about that/ Like I mentioned, when they released their allo, it was the only fig that year, yes? And the year after, only the redone mammoth? So they have history of scaling back when releasing a larger figure?
But, green is not itself necessarily wrong, just overused?
Got to say, I was all earth tones for the bigger ones, til I saw Angie's sauropods on Dino Revolution. The one thing I did take from that series was a whole new view of colored dinos...
Perhaps it is cost prohibitive for CollectA to get too intricate with the paint, and maintain the low cost of the figures?
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Post by Libraraptor on Dec 14, 2011 8:17:21 GMT
Wow, I see Papo is going to release a new T.rex! Okay by me. Big feet, long arms, but okay by me, really. Does anyone remember how great we found the Allosaurus? Its arms were too long, too, and his legs were to clumsy as well. But for some reason nearly everybody found that one cool. We shouldn´t overemphasize Papos role as providers of scientifically correct figures. This isn´t the niche Papo is aiming at. They aim at being controverse - even bad news or review IS news and review, isn´t it?!
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Post by dinodinkies on Dec 14, 2011 10:09:23 GMT
Well for me i like all of them. I have the wild safari rex, and i want the papo rex. It is not i am bashing when i comment on accuracy. I just want to find out how accurate is accurate. I am very curious, and i love to learn. And in the end we all want the same thing collecting dinosaurs. I love the differences between papo safari ltd and collecta. When all would look the same what would be the fun of buying them. My favourite 2012 figures are dracorex brachiosaurus ceratosaurus therizinosaurus, and paposaurus rex. And i am curious about if there will be more dinosaur surprises in 2012.
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Post by Seijun on Dec 14, 2011 10:24:38 GMT
When I look at the carnegie brachi, I stop caring about anything else being released in 2012!
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Post by dinodinkies on Dec 14, 2011 10:49:38 GMT
When I look at the carnegie brachi, I stop caring about anything else being released in 2012! Its a big beauty indeed, but for me it is Dracorex i want the most. I love bumpheads, collecta's one i didn't like. So the new one is a must have.
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Post by Meso-Cenozoic on Dec 14, 2011 11:50:43 GMT
Alright, this isn't going to seem so exciting after seeing the new Papo Rex, but these are the lengths for the new 2012 CollectAs. Since only about half of them are ready, those are the only ones with provided lengths. Lengths are in centimeters Tyrannosaurus Rex (green) 16.5 Dolichorhynchops 12.5 Kosmoceratops 110 Utahceratops 13 Miragaia 17 Hypsilophodon 9.5 Neovenator 24 Neanderthal Man 7 (height) Neanderthal Woman 7 (height) Triceratops Prey 17 Therizinosaurus 13.5 Koreaceratops 8 Mapusaurus 23 Williamsonia 130 (height) Monanthesia 85 (height) Whoa! Just got back on and trying to catch up. First off, Dan, thanks for these sizes. So it seems that most of these new figures are in a medium to medium-small range. EXCEPT... those sizes for the Kosmo, Williamsonia and Monanthesia do seem a BIT EXTREME, huh? LOL! In inches, the Kosmo at 110 cm would be 43.3" long! And the Williamsonia at 130 cm would be 51.2" tall! And last but not least, the Monanthesia isn't a shrimp either at 85 cm and coming in at 33.5" tall. Ummm... are these just maybe a wee bit off? Might there be a decimal point or two missing? OK, now for the two new ones. I like the Mapusaurus. Really cool head! And I also like the body and nice long tail. The green color doesn't bother me too much. Actually, it makes him kinda look like a big ol' iguana. ;D It's just the intensity of the limeness that's a bit much for me. But that's easily fixed with a dark brown wash. The only things that look a little strange to me are the arms and hands and the legs and feet. Actually, the arms aren't bad, it's those widely spread fingers again that look a little wrong. They're also on the new Neovenator. Could they really open out that much? And I'm sorry, but to me the Mapu's legs and feet look a bit big-birdish, lol! Why do they always seem to get so close and then go a bit wacko on something? But overall, I like him and will def add him to my collection. Now for the highly debated Papo T. rex. I agree with all the inaccuracies that have been mentioned over and over again. But, you know what, for me it's not really the obvious long arms or the enormous feet and head with a mouth in dyer need of a good orthodontist, and all this on an emaciated body (with I might point out, a decent lengthy tail) that bugs me. No, none of the aforementioned bother me as much as the overall look of this beast. He seems to be missing the Papo trademark realistic looking detailing. Mind you, not accurate detailing, but realistic, as if he looks to be almost alive. I can't put my finger quite on it. Maybe the skin detailing or some of the overly-exaggerated features. He just looks a bit cartoony to me. And the one thing Papo always did for me with their exquisite details was to make me almost believe the figure was alive. (Although, maybe it's gonna be a trend for 2012, because their new Tylo is def a cartoon figure! ) But, being the true Gemini I am, when all is said and done, I'll still probably get both figures. ;D On a quick side note about the accuracy vs non-accuracy debate concerning Papo figures... The only thing I have to say on this is IF Papo would ever consider doing as-accurate-as-possible prehistoric figures, ALL the other toy companies better watch out. With Papo's incredible sculpting artistry and skin detailings, even Carnegie would possibly have to move over. That's not saying that Forest Rogers' initial proto-sculpts aren't breathtaking, but they never seem to quite be as brilliant when they make it to the commercial line. I don't know what the initial Papo prototypes look like, but their details they retain on the commercially released figures puts them at the top of the toy-line competition. Their details are actually closer to Sideshow's than to the other toy companies. But, this is why I think some of us get frustrated with Papo. They have everything they need to make brilliant accurate-as-possible figures. They seem to just choose I guess to make artsy interpretations of at least their prehistoric line for the most part. Not that I mind that much. It just makes me wonder with their potential, what they could put out there. Awesome images in my head, man. Awesome images!
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Post by Horridus on Dec 14, 2011 15:31:40 GMT
It seems to me that the Wild Safari rex has arms and feet that are too big. I think the head is too big also. Better not get this one either. ;D I don't mind the feet being a bit too big, on either the WS or New Papo - for me it's a valid concession for the toy market. The arms on the WS are bothersome too, although less so because they are orientated correctly and not QUITE as long. They could still do with being shorter, though. I am getting to like the new Papo rex more the more I see it, I must admit. It has character. (Would anyone like to sculpt me some replacement arms...?) Sorry for going back to that again. EDIT: Looks like I missed a page. Whooops. I agree with what Meso-Cenozoic said re Papo's potential if the sculptor did a bit more research.
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Post by Griffin on Dec 14, 2011 15:36:34 GMT
Well put meso.
I probably will blow money on the new brachio but it doesn't excite me as much as a lot of the other never-before-seen-in-toy-form dinosaurs coming out this coming year. The new group of ceratopsids is a must for me regardless if they are a little funky looking as well as the safari dracorex and ceratosaurus (finally a good ceratosaurus!). Hypsilophodon and therizinosaurus are also welcomed additions into my collection as well as new plants. Its gonna be a good (expensive) year.
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Post by Horridus on Dec 14, 2011 15:52:34 GMT
I probably will blow money on the new brachio but it doesn't excite me as much as a lot of the other never-before-seen-in-toy-form dinosaurs coming out this coming year. I've got to admit, it excites me a great deal. I'm not normally that big on sauropods, but I do have an affinity for brachiosaurs. For whatever reason.
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Post by lucidstillness on Dec 14, 2011 16:17:03 GMT
Question...does it stand on it's own? It actually balances surprisingly well, much better than the Papo allosaur. You can even jostle it a bit and it won't fall over.
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Post by bowheadwhale on Dec 14, 2011 19:53:46 GMT
The Procon Dolichorhynchops is ssssoooooo cute with its roundish head and thin snout!
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Post by amanda on Dec 14, 2011 21:25:56 GMT
At this rate, CollectA seems to be cornering the market on a few types of figures, don't they? Many of the odder ceratopsians, ankylos/nodos, and stegos, and marine life especially. If they continue to improve in quality and accuracy, this could get very interesting, though I don't think they will ever really replace the carnegie figures. CollectA may perhaps challenge WS, but as most of the Procons are fairly small in size, I think the Carnegies will continue to be more impressive.
Collecta have not done any sort of icthyosaur yet, have they?
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Post by nobs on Dec 14, 2011 21:37:31 GMT
not a new dino, but wild safari is releasing a pretty cool hydra for their mythical realms collection.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Dec 14, 2011 22:34:34 GMT
not a new dino, but wild safari is releasing a pretty cool hydra for their mythical realms collection. I think the cloud dragon is a bit cooler though,, ;D That hydra is neat but not as cool as Mcfarlane's version unfortunately...or nearly as big.. heh heh
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Post by tanystropheus on Dec 14, 2011 22:56:03 GMT
Personal Favorites 2012:
Deinocheirus, Therizinosaurus ,Dolichorhynchops & T-rex (2011??)
Honourable mention: Vagaceratops, *Brachiosaurus & Amargasaurus
Most overlooked dinosaur: WS Ceratosaurus---perhaps, a must-have (more pictures necessary)
*The Brachiosaurus may be the best of the bunch---I wish they chose a more subdued shade of green or another colour, altogether (An example of rich colour expression, the CollectA Argentinosaurus)
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Post by sbell on Dec 14, 2011 23:12:50 GMT
not a new dino, but wild safari is releasing a pretty cool hydra for their mythical realms collection. I think the cloud dragon is a bit cooler though,, ;D That hydra is neat but not as cool as Mcfarlane's version unfortunately...or nearly as big.. heh heh How come nobody has mentioned the other Safari dino offerings--little plastic eggs with individual dino babies (like the ones in the toob) inside of them? Or no mention of the oversized fossils (like the toobs but bigger) on cards? Oh, right. BUT--there is a very nice Prehistoric Sea Life poster coming. Looks like they beat Feenixx (who was supposed to have one within the last 2 years).
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Post by amanda on Dec 14, 2011 23:20:52 GMT
I jus dunno about the cerato. It is such a distinctive animal, and this looks odd and generic. I really want to see a different angle, maybe more of a side view on the body, to get a better sense of proportions. I also want to see the head better. Aren't the teeth of cerato wildly long and gnarly/ i want to see if they convey that. Also, would like a better idea on size..
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Post by tanystropheus on Dec 14, 2011 23:30:51 GMT
I think the cloud dragon is a bit cooler though,, ;D That hydra is neat but not as cool as Mcfarlane's version unfortunately...or nearly as big.. heh heh How come nobody has mentioned the other Safari dino offerings--little plastic eggs with individual dino babies (like the ones in the toob) inside of them? Or no mention of the oversized fossils (like the toobs but bigger) on cards? Oh, right. BUT--there is a very nice Prehistoric Sea Life poster coming. Looks like they beat Feenixx (who was supposed to have one within the last 2 years). I was wondering about those--- I really like it when companies like Safari Ltd. and, now, CollectA show examples of thinking outside of the box.... ...The Oviraptor on Nest, is a good example....and the "Dinosaurs of China", with the prepackaged fossil displays... I'm not too familiar with the background of Safari Ltd.....do you know if these novelties are released on a cyclical basis, or have they decided to go about a more conservative route? ...I also liked the Mammoth poster (I think it appeared on Safari's FB page)...Was that an original Safari contribution? Edit: I think I misread your post. It appears that you were referring to some Safari Lt.d unreleased items.
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Post by Himmapaan on Dec 15, 2011 0:01:19 GMT
...the other Safari dino offerings--little plastic eggs with individual dino babies (like the ones in the toob) inside of them? I really look forward to pictures of those!
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