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Post by Dinotoyforum on Oct 31, 2008 17:04:12 GMT
Brontotherium* Entelodon/Daeodon (=Dinohyus)* Sarcosuchus* Xiphactinus* Crassigyrinus* (I don't remember if this actually cam up, but my son asked for one, so there you go) Anomalacaris Eryops Quetzalcoatlus/other azdharchid pterosaur in resting/stork pose Helicoprion Xenacanthus/Pleuracanthus Megalodon (Carcharocles megalodon) Masiakasurus Thescelosaurus Rajasaurus/abelisaurid Synthetoceros Gorgonopsid (Lycaenops, Inostravencia, Gorgonops) Diplocaulus Sanctacaris Bostrychoceras Ichthyostega Tiktaalik* Sacabampaspis Acrocanthosaurus Basilosaurus Shonisaurus Kentrosaurus Groenlandaspis Rhomaeleosaurus Albertonykus/Mononykus Coelophysis Herrerasaurus Tsintaosaurus You could repost this list as a poll and ask everyone to pick their top 10...   |
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Post by tomhet on Oct 31, 2008 17:43:46 GMT
only because I do not believe that there are any African plant eaters out there as figures You mean one that isn't OOP? Because there are two others, the Schleich and the Battat Ouranosaurus. And I'd vote for another fish  |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Oct 31, 2008 20:45:31 GMT
I agree with dinotoyforum.
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Post by sbell on Oct 31, 2008 21:02:26 GMT
I agree with dinotoyforum. Ah, democracy is over rated. Besides, I'm still going to have final say (what you Americans call 'Electoral Colleges'), and I still have to come up with justifications--if everyone voted for ammonoids and thelodonts, I would still be hard pressed to convince a company to take a chance in bad economic times on odd things like that--whether we like it or not, the first suggestions need to be easier pills to swallow--toothy and scary-looking things, well-known things, things from movies, things that mesh well with existing lines. So that's how I'm picking. |
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Post by sbell on Oct 31, 2008 21:04:48 GMT
only because I do not believe that there are any African plant eaters out there as figures You mean one that isn't OOP? Because there are two others, the Schleich and the Battat Ouranosaurus. And I'd vote for another fish I did think of those--but they are long gone. Although I am open to suggestions of other unique-looking gondwanan ornithopods. As for the marine reptile I was going to add, it will be a pliosaur. While I am tempted to do the suck up thing and just say Rhomaleosaurs (sp?), the fact is that the recent prominence of Dolichorhychops in a movie makes it much easier to suggest. Feelings on that? |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Oct 31, 2008 21:26:08 GMT
^ I feel that the doli would sell better.. And would teach K&M how well those sea monsters would sell!
Although, if you exclude a shark from that list, I will hate you forever.
;D
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Post by kuni on Oct 31, 2008 21:35:42 GMT
The doli is the right pliosaur to go with, for the reasons you describe. I don't think Diplocaulus is quite cool enough to make the list, and the reason I don't think people make as many hadrosaurs is because of how generic they look (which is an argument FOR making at least one, I know, but they just don't fly off shelves). I think an azdharcid hits that right mix of big, weird, and predatory - just make sure if you choose it that you send the quetzal/human comparison picture, as it really makes the case.
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Post by sbell on Oct 31, 2008 22:03:26 GMT
The doli is the right pliosaur to go with, for the reasons you describe. I don't think Diplocaulus is quite cool enough to make the list, and the reason I don't think people make as many hadrosaurs is because of how generic they look (which is an argument FOR making at least one, I know, but they just don't fly off shelves). I think an azdharcid hits that right mix of big, weird, and predatory - just make sure if you choose it that you send the quetzal/human comparison picture, as it really makes the case. The generic appearance of hadrosaurs is what I'm trying to avoid--hence, Ouranousaurus or a crested form if ones exists (from Gondwana--it ties in better with the new Giganotosaurus, for example). I am getting the feeling the Diplocaulus will be left off. I am thinking I may just go for a 14th and put on the pterosaur. If I were to go with the giant stork look I don't have much to work with because they already have a Quetzalcoatlus (possibly in both lines) and I won't suggest repeats. Are there any others? Baconydraco is an obscure one from East Europe and Zheijiangopterus is a small, crestless, dull one. Hatzegopteryx would be cool because it is big (12m across) and is from TRANSYLVANIA (Happy Halloween). But it is reconstructed to look like Quetzalcoatlus anyway. I could go the Ornithocheirus route--it has shown up in many films and WwD Live; and it's big. But then you lose the stork look. So come on people--save the pterosaur spot--come up with a good one. |
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Post by sbell on Oct 31, 2008 22:03:47 GMT
^ I feel that the doli would sell better.. And would teach K&M how well those sea monsters would sell! Although, if you exclude a shark from that list, I will hate you forever. ;D Naw, the two sharks are safe. |
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Post by sbell on Oct 31, 2008 22:11:54 GMT
Here is the breakdown--I'm doing it from memory, so I might mess up or miss one.
Bronthotherium
Entelodon/Daeodon/Dinohyus
Sarcosuchus
Gorgonsopsid (probably Lycaenops)
Helicoprion
Xenacanthus/Orthacanthus/Pleuracanthus
Xiphacintus
Coelophysis
Thescelosaurus
Crassigyrinus
Tiktaalik
Dolichorhynchops
Probably Ouranosaurus unless a better one comes up
Pterosaur spot (big question mark here).
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Oct 31, 2008 22:12:39 GMT
See, I thought you wanted a super-cool bad-a.s.s giant toothy apex-predator of a pliosaur (Rhomaleosaurus), not a wimpy gutless small fry loser of a pliosaur (Doli - even the name is lame - "yoo-hoo, hi there, I'm Dolly"). Dolly isn't even sure if she IS a pliosaur, according to O'Keefe she is a plesiosauroid that evolved a short neck independently of pliosaurs. It's your call, but just think what your friends will say...
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Oct 31, 2008 22:24:47 GMT
See, I thought you wanted a super-cool bad-a.s.s giant toothy apex-predator of a pliosaur (Rhomaleosaurus), not a wimpy gutless small fry loser of a pliosaur (Doli - even the name is lame - "yoo-hoo, hi there, I'm Dolly"). Dolly isn't even sure if she IS a pliosaur, according to O'Keefe she is a plesiosauroid that evolved a short neck independently of pliosaurs. It's your call, but just think what your friends will say... So much for you being the "Guy-who-loves-all-marine-reptiles-equally-with-all-his-heart" |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Oct 31, 2008 22:25:43 GMT
Here is the breakdown--I'm doing it from memory, so I might mess up or miss one. Bronthotherium Entelodon/Daeodon/Dinohyus Sarcosuchus Gorgonsopsid (probably Lycaenops) Helicoprion Xenacanthus/Orthacanthus/Pleuracanthus Xiphacintus Coelophysis Thescelosaurus Crassigyrinus Tiktaalik Dolichorhynchops Probably Ouranosaurus unless a better one comes up Pterosaur spot (big question mark here). Yes! Sharks! |
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Post by kuni on Oct 31, 2008 22:38:46 GMT
With regards to the pterosaur, I think "Azdharcid" or "Azdharcid Pterosaur" is the name it should be under - remember that Safari just released an Ornithocheirus(I think) but called it "Pterosaur".
For the hadrosaur, Charonosaurus. Ouranosaurus looks too much like Spinosaurus but lamer, from a public perception perspective.
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Post by sbell on Oct 31, 2008 22:55:29 GMT
See, I thought you wanted a super-cool bad-a.s.s giant toothy apex-predator of a pliosaur (Rhomaleosaurus), not a wimpy gutless small fry loser of a pliosaur (Doli - even the name is lame - "yoo-hoo, hi there, I'm Dolly"). Dolly isn't even sure if she IS a pliosaur, according to O'Keefe she is a plesiosauroid that evolved a short neck independently of pliosaurs. It's your call, but just think what your friends will say... Better a wimpy pliosaur than a goofy shelled thing. Although a metriorhynchus or geosaurus would be cool--maybe we don't need a pliosaur at all... Although I will admit I have had those mixed feelings about dolis, for the same reason--a dolphiny-sea-lizard just isn't that cool. |
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Post by sbell on Oct 31, 2008 23:05:51 GMT
With regards to the pterosaur, I think "Azdharcid" or "Azdharcid Pterosaur" is the name it should be under - remember that Safari just released an Ornithocheirus(I think) but called it "Pterosaur". For the hadrosaur, Charonosaurus. Ouranosaurus looks too much like Spinosaurus but lamer, from a public perception perspective. Two problems: Charonosaurus looks like Parasaurolophus. ANd it is not gondwanan (it's Asian). |
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Oct 31, 2008 23:06:22 GMT
See, I thought you wanted a super-cool bad-a.s.s giant toothy apex-predator of a pliosaur (Rhomaleosaurus), not a wimpy gutless small fry loser of a pliosaur (Doli - even the name is lame - "yoo-hoo, hi there, I'm Dolly"). Dolly isn't even sure if she IS a pliosaur, according to O'Keefe she is a plesiosauroid that evolved a short neck independently of pliosaurs. It's your call, but just think what your friends will say... Better a wimpy pliosaur than a goofy shelled thing. Although a metriorhynchus or geosaurus would be cool--maybe we don't need a pliosaur at all... Although I will admit I have had those mixed feelings about dolis, for the same reason--a dolphiny-sea-lizard just isn't that cool. Rhomaleosaurus it is then Glad you came to your senses. ;D |
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Post by bokisaurus on Oct 31, 2008 23:27:51 GMT
Here is the breakdown--I'm doing it from memory, so I might mess up or miss one. Bronthotherium Entelodon/Daeodon/Dinohyus Sarcosuchus Gorgonsopsid (probably Lycaenops) Helicoprion Xenacanthus/Orthacanthus/Pleuracanthus Xiphacintus Coelophysis Thescelosaurus Crassigyrinus Tiktaalik Dolichorhynchops Probably Ouranosaurus unless a better one comes up Pterosaur spot (big question mark here). What no sauropod or ceratopsian? No ichtyo? Safari never released one and they should. After all not much ichtyo out. How about a Leedsichtys? They are big and very cool looking, plus they have appeared in the WWD films with liops ;D |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Nov 1, 2008 0:23:19 GMT
They have don many sauropods and cerotopsians... I hope they do switch to the weirder things like those amphibians and fishes ;D Although an ichthyo would be awesome.
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Post by sbell on Nov 1, 2008 1:30:25 GMT
I considered all of that--1, can't do everything. 2, we'll see how they react this time (keep in mind, it could be a couple years before we see anything.
And I have decided-absolutely arbitrarily--that I will stick Arthropleura on there as well. It's been in several shows (Note: if any of the listed critters have shown up on Primeval, please let me know). Plus it's big, creepy, helps tie in with the amphibians, and could fit well with their Incredible Creatures line.
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