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Post by bokisaurus on Nov 3, 2008 4:42:06 GMT
"If these companies are smart, they will make more Therizinosaurs. Kids, you ask them, what do you want a Theri or a T-Rex. They'll Say I want a Theri!" I ammended your proposal, Tyrannus.  Lol, but seriously kids have no clue what a Therizinosaurus is. A pot-bellied chicken with 3 foot claws? Now thats exotic. ;D Yah, a pot-bellied chicken with 3 foot long claws is way more exotic than a T-rex, I'm sorry to say. Frankly I find the Theri a whole lot more interesting than a T-rex.... BTW, I have a life jacket and inflatable baot  And I do enjoy river rafting, so go ahead, throw me in the water ;D |
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Post by tomhet on Nov 4, 2008 5:19:42 GMT
I'd like to see whole lines of prehistoric animals, for instance a whole Cambrian set (have you seen the new Safari sea nettle? It's so awesome, imagine what they'd do with an Hallucigenia), a prehistoric fish set, a marine reptiles set, a prehistoric cephalopod set, etc. That's what I'd do if I had a company *sigh* One can only dream... |
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Post by sbell on Nov 4, 2008 5:34:25 GMT
All right, I have put together the list. Since it turns out African ornithopods either weren't popular, or don't really stand out, off they went. Use Iguanodon (alter the nose to change species!).
So my final list (I'll send in a couple days):
Brontothere
Enteldont
Sarcosuchus
Xiphactinus
Crassigyrinus
Tiktaalik
Gorgonopsid
Thescelosaurus/hypsilophodont dinosaur
Coelophysis
Helicoprion
Xenacanthus
Cymbospondylus
Pterygotus/Megalograptus/'sea scorpion'
Hyneria/Eusthenopteron/Panderichthys
Azdharchid pterosaur
This is a response to a couple suggestions--the lobe-fin fish because they are commonly represented, including in a movie (and people seem to like fish); the Cymbospondylus again because of the movie, because people wanted an ichthyosaur, and it would be truly unusual; the the pterosaur because it would be cool.
The hardest part was creating justifications. It's one thing to make a list, it's another to come up with reasons.
I will also suggest the toob idea--palaeozoic life, for example, would allow for some neat inverts, fish and amphibains. A mesozoic marine would allow for interesting reptiles and fish.
So once it is there, we wait and see! Probably for a long, disappointing time...
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Post by tomhet on Nov 4, 2008 6:15:16 GMT
OK, more observations  Don't you think Panderichthys and Tiktaalik are too similar to include them in the same list? Maybe another kind of fish? And two, I don't think they'll be doing another azdharchid. Could be wrong though. |
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Post by kuni on Nov 4, 2008 7:52:47 GMT
Excellent list, though I agree with Tomhet -- Hyneria probably trumps another "fishapod".
Make sure to play up the fact that Tiktaalik displays are in museums all over the country (and probably beyond) as well.
I'm surprised the abelisaurid got cut, but really, our job should be to provide obscure-but-cool creatures, not a theropod with a slightly different head.
I support the icthyosaur, but it really does look superficially similar to their new Tylosaurus.
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Post by Tyrannax on Nov 4, 2008 8:51:33 GMT
Lol, but seriously kids have no clue what a Therizinosaurus is. A pot-bellied chicken with 3 foot claws? Now thats exotic. ;D Yah, a pot-bellied chicken with 3 foot long claws is way more exotic than a T-rex, I'm sorry to say. Frankly I find the Theri a whole lot more interesting than a T-rex.... BTW, I have a life jacket and inflatable baot And I do enjoy river rafting, so go ahead, throw me in the water ;D Hey i'm not making fun of therizinosaurus on the pot-bellied thing. Have you seen when dinosaurs roamed the earth? They called it that in that documentary ;D Its definitely more exotic I must say. ;D Such an odd looking theropod.....with four toes??? Tyrannosaurus is just own right awesome. Predators with razors for teeth are average, but bone crushing teeth and a massive bite force are reserved for big T.  |
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Post by sbell on Nov 4, 2008 13:12:46 GMT
I thought about another fish--but it turns out, not many fish get a lot of time in the prehistoric movies (I considered Leedsichthys, but as a fish, it's kind of dull). The only other ones in films were Bothriolepis (unnamed) in Chased by Sea Monsters or Cephalaspis in Walking with Monsters.
The reason to go with Tiktaalik is the whole media-consciousness thing. It seems to get in the news fairly often, mainly due to its place in the grand scheme of the tetrapods.
And the main reason to say 'Hyneria' was because it was in a movie, even though it is not that well known (most reconstructions are based on Eusthenopteron anyway).
Personally, I think the two animals, as figures, would be great for evolutionary discussion and display. Maybe they'll agree, maybe by putting both on, we'll get one of them.
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Post by tomhet on Nov 4, 2008 17:05:40 GMT
Sounds great  |
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Post by sbell on Nov 4, 2008 20:51:35 GMT
Excellent list, though I agree with Tomhet -- Hyneria probably trumps another "fishapod". Make sure to play up the fact that Tiktaalik displays are in museums all over the country (and probably beyond) as well. I'm surprised the abelisaurid got cut, but really, our job should be to provide obscure-but-cool creatures, not a theropod with a slightly different head. I support the icthyosaur, but it really does look superficially similar to their new Tylosaurus. I missed some of this in the post. If the Cymbospondylu slooks superficially mosasaur-like, I call that a good convergence lesson. Anyway, I considered other ichthyosaurs, but the only two to get any air time have been Opthalmosaurus (boring--but I have a spare if anyone is looking) and briefly, Temnodontosaurus. What I did think of, is I'm going to add Nothosaurus. I had intended it to be there all along. It works well from the evolution view, from the Triassic seas view, and it is generally familiar, often showing up in books, movies, posters, etc. Yet it's never been done well. I decided not to suggest anything in a similar vein to what exists--hence I cut the pliosaurs (sorry Dr. Admin) since they already have Kronosaurus. And I did not suggest any dinos in the groups that already get made. Not even theropods. I am willing to be that those are the groups they stay most aware of anyway. |
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Nov 4, 2008 23:10:09 GMT
Yah, a pot-bellied chicken with 3 foot long claws is way more exotic than a T-rex, I'm sorry to say. Frankly I find the Theri a whole lot more interesting than a T-rex.... BTW, I have a life jacket and inflatable baot And I do enjoy river rafting, so go ahead, throw me in the water ;D Hey i'm not making fun of therizinosaurus on the pot-bellied thing. Have you seen when dinosaurs roamed the earth? They called it that in that documentary ;D Its definitely more exotic I must say. ;D Such an odd looking theropod.....with four toes??? Tyrannosaurus is just own right awesome. Predators with razors for teeth are average, but bone crushing teeth and a massive bite force are reserved for big T. Trex had four toes too. Just one was greatly reduced. |
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Post by Tyrannax on Nov 5, 2008 7:14:55 GMT
Hey i'm not making fun of therizinosaurus on the pot-bellied thing. Have you seen when dinosaurs roamed the earth? They called it that in that documentary ;D Its definitely more exotic I must say. ;D Such an odd looking theropod.....with four toes??? Tyrannosaurus is just own right awesome. Predators with razors for teeth are average, but bone crushing teeth and a massive bite force are reserved for big T. Trex had four toes too. Just one was greatly reduced. He also had a greatly reduced third claw. One specimen was found with a stub where the claw would have been ;D Sauropods walked on two legs long before large sauropods emerged. Plateosaurus is like the link between 4 legged and 2 legged sauropods. Evolution is awesome, isn't it? |
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Post by tomhet on Nov 5, 2008 18:45:10 GMT
Excellent list, though I agree with Tomhet -- Hyneria probably trumps another "fishapod". Make sure to play up the fact that Tiktaalik displays are in museums all over the country (and probably beyond) as well. I'm surprised the abelisaurid got cut, but really, our job should be to provide obscure-but-cool creatures, not a theropod with a slightly different head. I support the icthyosaur, but it really does look superficially similar to their new Tylosaurus. I missed some of this in the post. If the Cymbospondylu slooks superficially mosasaur-like, I call that a good convergence lesson. Anyway, I considered other ichthyosaurs, but the only two to get any air time have been Opthalmosaurus (boring--but I have a spare if anyone is looking) and briefly, Temnodontosaurus. What I did think of, is I'm going to add Nothosaurus. I had intended it to be there all along. It works well from the evolution view, from the Triassic seas view, and it is generally familiar, often showing up in books, movies, posters, etc. Yet it's never been done well. I decided not to suggest anything in a similar vein to what exists--hence I cut the pliosaurs (sorry Dr. Admin) since they already have Kronosaurus. And I did not suggest any dinos in the groups that already get made. Not even theropods. I am willing to be that those are the groups they stay most aware of anyway. 1) Why didn't you consider the Cephalaspis?! 2) They really need to make a better pliosaur than the Krono 3) Why didn't you consider a shastasaurid like the Shonisaurus? That seemed to me like a great choice. |
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Post by sbell on Nov 5, 2008 19:26:49 GMT
I missed some of this in the post. If the Cymbospondylu slooks superficially mosasaur-like, I call that a good convergence lesson. Anyway, I considered other ichthyosaurs, but the only two to get any air time have been Opthalmosaurus (boring--but I have a spare if anyone is looking) and briefly, Temnodontosaurus. What I did think of, is I'm going to add Nothosaurus. I had intended it to be there all along. It works well from the evolution view, from the Triassic seas view, and it is generally familiar, often showing up in books, movies, posters, etc. Yet it's never been done well. I decided not to suggest anything in a similar vein to what exists--hence I cut the pliosaurs (sorry Dr. Admin) since they already have Kronosaurus. And I did not suggest any dinos in the groups that already get made. Not even theropods. I am willing to be that those are the groups they stay most aware of anyway. 1) Why didn't you consider the Cephalaspis?! 2) They really need to make a better pliosaur than the Krono 3) Why didn't you consider a shastasaurid like the Shonisaurus? That seemed to me like a great choice. 1) Extremely boring (from a kid's point of view--remember who the main target would be). It looks like a sucker fish, and that is not exactly a huge motivator for most purchases 2) Perhaps, but they have a pliosaur, and the fact is that, to them, they will look pretty much the same (I know they differ, but remember who we are talking about). And I wasn't going to make any repaint/revamp suggestions. 3)Shonisaurus has been done. It has never been on a film of any kind, and has had very little media exposure. The recently discontinued one is still available in some places. |
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Post by kuni on Nov 5, 2008 19:55:11 GMT
Besides, the Kaiyodo Hemicyclaspis will trump a Safari Cephalaspis.
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Post by stoneage on Nov 5, 2008 22:26:22 GMT
Trex had four toes too. Just one was greatly reduced. He also had a greatly reduced third claw. One specimen was found with a stub where the claw would have been ;D Sauropods walked on two legs long before large sauropods emerged. Plateosaurus is like the link between 3 legged and 2 legged sauropods. Evolution is awesome, isn't it? ;D What sauropod had three legs. Was it one in the front and two in the back or some other configuration. ;D |
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Post by tomhet on Nov 6, 2008 4:08:59 GMT
Besides, the Kaiyodo Hemicyclaspis will trump a Safari Cephalaspis. But it's not even the same company. And osteostracans are not boring And it even appeared on WwM, not to mention that it would be life-sized... *sulks* |
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Post by Tyrannax on Nov 6, 2008 4:49:38 GMT
He also had a greatly reduced third claw. One specimen was found with a stub where the claw would have been ;D Sauropods walked on two legs long before large sauropods emerged. Plateosaurus is like the link between 4 legged and 2 legged sauropods. Evolution is awesome, isn't it? ;D What sauropod had three legs. Was it one in the front and two in the back or some other configuration. ;D A typing error stoneage, a typing error. I make them all the time. ;D |
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Post by sbell on Nov 26, 2008 20:01:58 GMT
With the 2009 new releases getting set to burst on the scene like a pimple on a McDonald's employee's cheek, I just thought I would mention the future.
I have been in touch with Wild Safari today with regards to our wish/hopes/want list. It is on the table for consideration for the 2010 line. Since product development takes about 18 months (his words) this is the fastest we could have hoped for--that would pretty much mean that anything we suggest may be a late 2010 spring release (maybe fall release--to be honest, it wouldn't make me sad to see something come out just before a certain high-shopping season. It might be the first time in over 10 years that I would have a real list of things I would like for solstice).
And for those who were made sad about the number of things that had to be cut from the list--I after-the-fact suggested toobs to satisfy our desire for more unusual animals that may be more risky as high-end sculpted figures. He really like that idea, and is tabling it as well.
I know we can only hope so far--after all, economic talk is all doom and gloom these days--but if we can influence just one or two figures, maybe a toob (I will ask if he would like the comprehensive list for that project), I think it would be awesome. And while it is nearly two years away, I don't think it would be unreasonable to suggest that all forum members, who can, should purchase those figures based on our suggestions (again, two years from now, but I'm putting it into the universe now). Even if they don't necessarily fit with your personal collection, and not just for ourselves. Need a gift for a cousin, niece, nephew, donation box? Why not go that way? Really, this should be the attitude whenever a company takes a risk (like,say, a Postosuchus and Scutosaurus; or an Indricotherium). Unless the risk is really badly done. It would be a way of making it clear that when collectors are listened to, they respond with the one thing that truly matters--$$$. Might open more doors for discussions.
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Post by therizinosaurus on Nov 26, 2008 21:02:34 GMT
Don't worry, I'll be buying one of each of their new figs (except the Diloph).
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Nov 26, 2008 21:39:57 GMT
I'm buying all of them. They are just so great! The best line being produced right now.
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And I do enjoy river rafting, so go ahead, throw me in the water ;D
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