Carnegie Apatosaurus

[jpengineer]

Yeah new poster here. (waves)

I am in the process of creating a HUGE diorama based upon Jurassic Park (the book). I'm just beginning with it, I have most of the Dinosaurs, with a few here and there to purchase. Then to start designing the Diorama. But more about that in the collection/diorama section.

I was wonder if when in your opinion when Carnegie will release a new Apatosaurus. I see the trend in their releases over the last decade, they release the more scientific interpretation of their central figures. 2000 you saw a scientifically correct Triceratops, and then we move to 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012. Clearly they a re refurbishing their collection. It is the collection I am using for the diorama. So any estimates would be appreciated. ;D

[brachiosaurus]

You could try the schelich apatosaurus its fairly accurate.

[jpengineer]

I need to check that out. Thanks for sharing.

[Horridus]

Feb 11, 2012 14:49:06 GMT brachiosaurus said:

You could try the schelich apatosaurus its fairly accurate.

I dunno....its tail is FAR too short, resulting in a bit of a 'camarasaur' look. It's probably better than the current Carnegie Apatosaurus, though. I hope there's a new one on the cards!

[jpengineer]

Horridus, I'd say there is. If you look back over the last decade they have retired several of the original models and are being replaced with better ones. But its due for an upgrade!

[roselaar]

There were rumors a while ago Safari would make a whole lot of updated models of their classic releases for 2013 (25th anniversary of the Carnegie line), which is why this year we only get one new Carnegie sculpt. But that's unsubstantiated. Hope it's true though.

[jpengineer]

Thanks for sharing that! I will definitely hold up on some purchases.

[[][][]cordylus[][][]]

The schleich apatosaurus actually reminds me a lot of the jp apatosaurus from the book.

[jpengineer]

Also roselar, were there any rumors as to which models they'd release again? Such as the Maiasaura, Styracosaurus, and Dilophosaurus? Those are ones that I will purchase as sson as I can for my Diorama. Two are retired, and I am curious over the Maiasaur mainly.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Actually the Apatosaurs in the book were a bit retro in appearance..not as much as Wu wanted them to be but still enough you could probably get by with using the current Carnegie Apato and juvenile. I love the current Schleich Apato ( not the new, smaller one ) but it's obviously has an older style..from the feet, tail, and elephant skin..it's probably slightly more out-dated than the Carnegie. You might hold off and see if Papo makes one as well..as I expect the Brachio will be a big seller for them.

I'd say we will definitely get a new Apatosaurus at some point..it's the last big sauropod that needs a redo for the Carnegie line.

There are two Maiasaurs already..the last one independent from the nest isn't bad at all...not sure if that one needs a redo..there are a few more in line first I would think...same really goes for the Dilos and the Styraco..all pretty good pieces. There is also the WS Dilo which is about the same size as the Carnegie ones.

[roselaar]

Feb 11, 2012 21:27:29 GMT jpengineer said:

Also roselar, were there any rumors as to which models they'd release again? Such as the Maiasaura, Styracosaurus, and Dilophosaurus? Those are ones that I will purchase as sson as I can for my Diorama. Two are retired, and I am curious over the Maiasaur mainly.

Nope, no rumours about dinosaur species specifically.

[jpengineer]

I'm glad you posted this info. This has made me re think the order in which I should do my diorama. I definitely want the most accurate models, with the best details from Carnegie. Now, I will probably focus on getting the terrain, lagoon, and fencing setup. Then if they release several updates next year I will use those instead of my older models. I will buy the Styracosaurs and Dilophosaurs and maybe another Maia for the diorama. The first two are retired for a while and I just like the Maias

[brachiosaurus]

Are the new scheilichs smaller than the museum replicas?

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Feb 13, 2012 22:55:29 GMT brachiosaurus said:

Are the new scheilichs smaller than the museum replicas?

I believe pics were posted showing they were smaller than the older models they are based on.

[Griffin]

What about the WS apatosaurus? Thats a great model its just a little smaller than the Carnegie one.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Feb 14, 2012 20:17:03 GMT Griffin said:

What about the WS apatosaurus? Thats a great model its just a little smaller than the Carnegie one.

Length-wise it's similar..but your missing the overall mass I think.

[apatos13]

Carnegie definately needs to update their apatosaurus,
but I so wish papo would make one.

[Dan]

Feb 11, 2012 22:05:45 GMT Blade-of-the-Moon said:

Actually the Apatosaurs in the book were a bit retro in appearance

That's the problem, isn't it? If one constructs a Jurassic Park diorama, should it follow the old information of the novel, the slightly newer designs of the film, or perhaps follow the latest research about two decades later?

As for the Carnegie Apatosaurus, I would love to see a resculpt as well, but there's no telling how long that will take.

[takama]

Feb 15, 2012 17:03:28 GMT Dan said:

Feb 11, 2012 22:05:45 GMT Blade-of-the-Moon said:

Actually the Apatosaurs in the book were a bit retro in appearance

That's the problem, isn't it? If one constructs a Jurassic Park diorama, should it follow the old information of the novel, the slightly newer designs of the film, or perhaps follow the latest research about two decades later?

As for the Carnegie Apatosaurus, I would love to see a resculpt as well, but there's no telling how long that will take.

well we've seen two new resculpts already last year and this year. Brachiosaurus, Carnotourus, maybe safari will surprise us next year

[jpengineer]

Feb 15, 2012 17:03:28 GMT Dan said:

Feb 11, 2012 22:05:45 GMT Blade-of-the-Moon said:

Actually the Apatosaurs in the book were a bit retro in appearance

That's the problem, isn't it? If one constructs a Jurassic Park diorama, should it follow the old information of the novel, the slightly newer designs of the film, or perhaps follow the latest research about two decades later?

As for the Carnegie Apatosaurus, I would love to see a resculpt as well, but there's no telling how long that will take.

What I'm doing is basing it on the latest info and sculpts form the company. Personally I dont like that sculpt but want to use it to make it true to the book. Im using mainly species from the book, with some suitable substitutions of course.

I know that you may know when it would be released if next year or the year after. But Im guessing it is coming up as well as a new Tyrannosaurus (25th anniversary) and a Triceratops (Because of information on Torosaurus being its mature form). I'd also say a new Pteranodon and Apatosaurusv sculpt is as well because they are severely out dated....