New Dino Book

[tetonbabydoll]

;D Picked this up in the bargain bin at Borders books. It is huge, and faily trippy. ;D





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All right, that's all for now. Gotta go for now. I will post more later. Don't worry, Tyrannax, T-rex stuff around the corner..... sorry, I just don't like the 4o foot chicken look. ;D

[tomhet]

Nice Allo

[Anapsids]

Look! the T-rex has mane. Nice.

[Tyrannax]

Nov 5, 2008 6:55:43 GMT Anapsids said:

Look! the T-rex has mane. Nice.

Rex looks awesome on the chart. Can I see the actual profile of it please? Thanks!

[tetonbabydoll]

;D Yup, we're getting to it.























OOOOk, then. On that note I'm gonna stop for a bit. I am sorry 'bout the triple Argentinosaurus post, I am very tired, and the more I tried to fix it, rhe more of them there were. I have been up nearly 24hrs, now. Had to work at a polling place at 4 this morning. Then waited in line to vote, and then painted at least three dinos while watching the returns. Will post more tomorrow.

By the way, I am having some serious doubts about the accuracy of the listed size charts. Thoughts, anyone. And aren't Majungasaurus's arms way to big? Well, off to bed. Hope I don't have nightmares of choking on downey "proto feathers".....
mumbles...stupid chicken rex...*sigh*

[sbell]

I fixed it for you.

And that T rex is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. It's a cross between a clown and a dinosaur, and not in a good way.

[Anapsids]

The feather on T-rex doesn't bother me.
One thing I never undertand about some of the big theropods though is that how do they stand on 2 feet. The foot prints say 2, yes. But everytime I looks at their pics anywhere I have a feeling that they would certainly tip over. The front is so bulky that the tail does not seem able to balance it. Any thoughts?

[sbell]

Biomechanical studies have been done that show that the legs are pretty much in the perfect spot to balance the theropod body. of course, there are modifications to allow for this. If you look at a T.rex skull, there are a lot of big spaces, and that is no accident; they are designed to reduce the weight while retaining function (your sinus cavities do the same thing). And the reduction in forelimbs in another.

Plus many depictions get the tails wrong, shortening them to look...different?

It is the same as asking how humans, or birds, get around on just two legs; it is inherently less stable. The trick is that we don't always go on two legs--we sit, lay down, stretch out, rest, etc. When we need to move, we use two legs. Theropods likely did the same thing.

Of course, there are consequences--while movie depictions of theropods speeding around corners are exciting, |I believe there was a study showing that T.rex would have been more of a straight chaser--too much zigzagging might have thrown it off balance. But then, the prey was generally larger and hence slower anyway; they weren't going after gazelles after all.

Besides, even 4-legged animals fall, especially during chases.

[tetonbabydoll]

;D All right, here's some more.













There it is. That's all I took pics of, still only about half to two thirds of the info. I said it was BIG. 224 pages. It supposedly goes chronologically and includes dino ancestors etc. Author is Steve Brusatte, who they bill as the guy who identified Charcarodontisaurus. The consultant is listed as Michael Benton, who, it says, wrote the WWD book, and was a consultant for WWD. The CGI is by Pixel-shack.com, who supposedly were commissioned to do work for WWD related projects. Published by Quercus. The inside cover says UK price only 50 pounds. I got it for 19.99 usd. I like it,and it seems kinda unique. It is copywrited for 2008, and I figured the price was good. ;D

[Tyrannax]

Wow, that Tyrannosaurus looks awesome! I love it/ So what if it had feathers? Does it affect the way he hunts? No. Makes him look really cool.

To sum up what sbell said, Tyrannosaurus' tail acted like a giant counterbalance. It was pure mass, while the head, like sbell said, had many hollow areas. Thats what that large circle is in front of the eyes and behind the nose was.

[stoneage]

Nov 5, 2008 21:29:38 GMT Tyrannax said:

Wow, that Tyrannosaurus looks awesome! I love it/ So what if it had feathers? Does it affect the way he hunts? No. Makes him look really cool.

To sum up what sbell said, Tyrannosaurus' tail acted like a giant counterbalance. It was pure mass, while the head, like sbell said, had many hollow areas. Thats what that large circle is in front of the eyes and behind the nose was.

;D Most of the drawing are pretty good, but Tryannax I have to agree with Bell about the T-Rex. ;D

[Tyrannax]

Everyone on this forum doesn't like feathered anything. Oh well.

[[][][]cordylus[][][]]

Most drawings sucked. I mean, if they are going to do feathers why not do them right? Shouldn't they be coming off of the second digit, and not the middle of the arm? And many dinosaurs weren't accurate, either. *Points at horrible spinosaurus*

[Tyrannax]

Nov 5, 2008 23:50:27 GMT [][][]cordylus[][][] said:

Most drawings sucked. I mean, if they are going to do feathers why not do them right? Shouldn't they be coming off of the second digit, and not the middle of the arm? And many dinosaurs weren't accurate, either. *Points at horrible spinosaurus*

Yes a lot of them are inaccurate aren't they? ;D

[tetonbabydoll]

Considering the supposed "expertise" associated with it, yea. I still think it was a cool find, and the images do give me some painting ideas. They are not drawings per se, they are computer generated images.

I don't really mind feathered dinos, I just take it with a grain of salt. if that is what they were, than that's just the way it is. No big. But I can still remember when all the books depicted them as cold blooded lumbering idiots, who were just too stupid to be able to adapt and survive. One book I had as a kid even illustrated this with a pic of Brontosaurus, laying around in a stupor because it was too cold for its dumbass to move. They had these little furry mammals just chewing away at its tail, leaving the spine picked clean. All because, since it was a cold blooded reptile, it couldn't muster the energy to care, let alone move.

So, in thirty years or so, we will either take feathered dinos for granted, or all look back in amusement at how off track we were. That is what science does. As new data comes in, you adjust tour theories to accomodate it. There is no "absolute" here, it is always shifting. ;D

[Tyrannax]

Nov 6, 2008 0:06:07 GMT @tetonbabydoll said:

Considering the supposed "expertise" associated with it, yea. I still think it was a cool find, and the images do give me some painting ideas. They are not drawings per se, they are computer generated images.

I don't really mind feathered dinos, I just take it with a grain of salt. if that is what they were, than that's just the way it is. No big. But I can still remember when all the books depicted them as cold blooded lumbering idiots, who were just too stupid to be able to adapt and survive. One book I had as a kid even illustrated this with a pic of Brontosaurus, laying around in a stupor because it was too cold for its dumbass to move. They had these little furry mammals just chewing away at its tail, leaving the spine picked clean. All because, since it was a cold blooded reptile, it couldn't muster the energy to care, let alone move.

So, in thirty years or so, we will either take feathered dinos for granted, or all look back in amusement at how off track we were. That is what science does. As new data comes in, you adjust tour theories to accomodate it. There is no "absolute" here, it is always shifting. ;D

Amen.

[sid]

Some of those size charts are,well,way off...

Those feathered Tyrannosaurids...

I repeat...


...Those feathered Tyrannosaurids...

[richard]

cool book I mean the drawings are nice but some of them are not in a good scale compared to the man there.... wait aaaah! my eyes! wth a tyrannosaurus with feathers

[therizinosaurus]

haha, love the size comparison of the Caudipteryx!

Looks like a good book.

[Mauro "Raptor86"]

What's the book name???