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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Nov 8, 2008 23:06:51 GMT
"So did you mean that we will eventually run ourselves into extinction?" Absolutely. Whether we "do it to ourselves" or just end up helping speed the process up, I am certain that is what lays in store for our species. I mean, everything is bound to go extinct eventually, but with our callous disregard for the systems we live on/with, and the lack of good environmental management/ethics behind that, as a species are really are working hard to push that button. Ok. But will the entire world end too? Like every single species on earth (As some people say)?
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Post by crazycrowman on Nov 8, 2008 23:17:16 GMT
"Ok. But will the entire world end too? Like every single species on earth (As some people say)?"
Well, I think that the people who say that do not have a good grasp on the history of this planet. I have never head a reasonable scientist make that sort of claim.
I think that when our sun dies one day, yes, we can expect this planet to have a good chance at being an inhospitable place for all life, but for humans to be able to bring that on ? Hardly. I don't think all the "power" we have "harnessed" can even come close to the things this planet has been through over time.
That said, I don't think that just because we will only wipe out our species, and hundreds of thousands of others in the wake (http://www.livescience.com/blogs/2007/05/22/would-you-believe-3-species-go-extinct-every-hour/) that we should continue to be so callous about these things. The sad thing is that personally, I think its going to take the threat of the immediate extinction of our species to get us to actually do anything significant to help prevent it, and chances are, by that time, it will be much to late.
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Nov 8, 2008 23:25:49 GMT
"Ok. But will the entire world end too? Like every single species on earth (As some people say)?" Well, I think that the people who say that do not have a good grasp on the history of this planet. I have never head a reasonable scientist make that sort of claim. I think that when our sun dies one day, yes, we can expect this planet to have a good chance at being an inhospitable place for all life, but for humans to be able to bring that on ? Hardly. I don't think all the "power" we have "harnessed" can even come close to the things this planet has been through over time. And that is what our dear Michael Chrichton said that I agreed with.
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Post by stoneage on Nov 8, 2008 23:29:19 GMT
I think that humans will become extinct in the near future. It is probably too late to do anything to save the enviornment now. I also thing that JP had an amazing effect on young dinosaur lovers. Just like Marx Dinosaurs and the Charles Knight Murals did back in my youth.
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Post by crazycrowman on Nov 9, 2008 1:08:49 GMT
I was responding more to therizinosauruses comment then to you. "And that is what our dear Michael Chrichton said that I agreed with." In part, that is what he said. The whole "global warming is a hoax" stuff...well, even though its basically proven, even if it WERE (which, I repeat, is not the case) it constantly keeps getting used as en excuse to keep mistreating the planet in the name of profit, and to not do anything to prevent us from damaging the planet in many preventable ways. Even if we as a species were having only "small" effects on the global atmosphere, we are certainly going out of our way to trash the planet in every other way possible. I liked the book, actually, but I would not give Michael Crichton's "scientific ideas" on Global warming much more hold then I would his views on successfully cloning hadrosaurs. Sure it is "something to think about" but saying that he "helped to make the public aware that global warming is a hoax", Is just...wow. I guess for me its hard to imagine that someone could make a comment like that. That a person could actually believe that, despite all the evidence to the contrary makes these scary times... www.csicop.org/doubtandabout/crichton/Science fiction, is of course, still fiction. (unless of course, you are one of those people who doesn't "believe in science")
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Post by tomhet on Nov 9, 2008 3:38:57 GMT
it constantly keeps getting used as en excuse to keep mistreating the planet in the name of profit, and to not do anything to prevent us from damaging the planet in many preventable ways. Amen.
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Post by Anapsids on Nov 9, 2008 3:50:27 GMT
Even if it isn't gonna be all out human extinction, many people will surely be suffer. And that should be enough reason to act.
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