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Post by Dinotoyforum on Jan 13, 2009 10:51:42 GMT
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Jan 13, 2009 11:08:21 GMT
Well, won't this bee a fun little debate forming later on in the day.....
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Post by sepp on Jan 13, 2009 11:18:05 GMT
okay, now that is really cool. I wish the picture was bigger :c
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Post by Dinotoyforum on Jan 13, 2009 11:30:09 GMT
Boy I'm kind.  |
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Post by sepp on Jan 13, 2009 12:24:27 GMT
man, that is gorgeous. thank you!
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Post by sid on Jan 13, 2009 12:29:05 GMT
Nice find...  ;D |
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Post by arioch on Jan 13, 2009 12:43:43 GMT
The feathers covered half of the lower jaw....that was unexpected. This suggests that the feather cover of therizinosaurs and dromaeosaurids could be more extense than we tought. Nice discovery!
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Post by sid on Jan 13, 2009 13:57:05 GMT
Yes,but they look more like "fur" than the alleged long feathers some people keep on putting on Raptors and such...  |
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Post by arioch on Jan 13, 2009 14:12:27 GMT
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Post by EmperorDinobot on Jan 13, 2009 15:19:13 GMT
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Post by kuni on Jan 13, 2009 15:51:52 GMT
woot! more feathers!
(After watching Dinosaur Planet and reading Holtz's Dinosaurs, I've decided that I'm completely on board with the feathered maniraptoran concept....)
I wonder, though, if those elongate feathers are really so useless, and whether a baby Beipi could use them for wing-assisted incline running. We'll know in a few years, I think.
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Post by sid on Jan 13, 2009 16:16:28 GMT
AH! First of all Psittacosaurus bristles are NOT feathers but quills,like in the hedgehog...Then,we have proof of true feathers only in basal Dromeosaurids,which were closer to birds than derived,more proper "Raptors". And the "Therizinosaurid" you mention is Caudipteryx,which was actually an OVIRAPTORID...  |
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Post by arioch on Jan 13, 2009 19:35:20 GMT
Do´h! i forget oviraptorids. Psitacosaurus with hedgedog quills? well, i don´t think, it is rather hair-like protofeathers, like this of Beipiasaurus, but longer and more flexible.  What do you mean with more proper "raptors"? predatory birds like hawks and eagles? or the monster-like and innacurate stereotype of JP? because all are maniraptorians. And feathered. ;D |
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Post by sid on Jan 13, 2009 22:11:14 GMT
Do´h! i forget oviraptorids. Psitacosaurus with hedgedog quills? well, i don´t think, it is rather hair-like protofeathers, like this of Beipiasaurus, but longer and more flexible. What do you mean with more proper "raptors"? predatory birds like hawks and eagles? or the monster-like and innacurate stereotype of JP? because all are maniraptorians. And feathered. ;D Sorry,but Psittacosaurus quills don't resemble protofeathers or hair-like structures...And regarding "proper" Raptors i mean the derived ones,as Velociraptor,Deinonychus and such...Are they feathered? We have NO proof of it,only guesses based on the fossils of their ancestors...And saying that,for example,a Deinonychus MUST be feathered because Microraptor was...Sorry,but i don't buy it. And JP Raptors ROCK ;D |
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Post by itstwentybelow on Jan 13, 2009 22:28:51 GMT
Wow, that is a gorgeous fossil! Man I wish so badly that I could see a live dinosaur just to know what color it was! I'll bet those feathers around the throat were very prominently colored.
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Post by [][][]cordylus[][][] on Jan 13, 2009 23:39:07 GMT
Nice fossil! Although the chinese "farmers" must be collaborating a lot to make a few specimens of biepiaosaurus feathered! ;D
And I don't see the problem with a feathered dienonychus. Besides, they would only lose feathers if they somehow "harmed" or "slowed down" the animals.
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Post by kentrosaur on Jan 13, 2009 23:58:05 GMT
What a nice fossil, I wish we'd get at least some casts of these sorts of fossils in the museum. I'm not gonna jump into the feather debate, I'm a big fan of the feather concept myself - but if I start to see art with Iguanodons frolicing about with feathers, well, I'll definately raise an eyebrow. Maybe even two |
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Post by bolesey on Jan 14, 2009 0:11:01 GMT
Beautiful, truly beautiful. And indisputable.
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Post by sid on Jan 14, 2009 11:08:05 GMT
Nice fossil! Although the chinese "farmers" must be collaborating a lot to make a few specimens of biepiaosaurus feathered! ;D Eh eh eh ;D |
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