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Post by tetonbabydoll on Feb 19, 2009 12:18:49 GMT
 Right. So it turns out many of the figures are not the official listed scale at all. So, to keep it all in one place...voila! Theri gave us a formula that appears to work well. Some figures fall almost spot on--Kinto, no surprise. Others, not so much--Bully stego. The formula was to take the length of the real animal, and multiply it by twelve, to achieve a number in inches. Then take that total, and divide it by the length of the toy. Now, some references vary quite a bit on estimated length of the animal, and many toys have curved necks, or tails and that makes my measuring a little guessy, as all I have right now is a straight 18 inch ruler. Also, many of us have noted that companies tend to skimp on sauropod tails, shortening and curling them into coils. Which means while the body may be one scale, the length puts it into a different scale. Dig? I will start with one that came out almost spot on--the Kinto favorite apatosaurus,and one of the not-so-muches, the Bullyland apatosaurus. The Kinto is listed at 1/80 scale.The figure is fairly straight, and measures out at 11.5 inches.I have estimated lengths from 69 to 82 feet. I will use the max lengths given for this. So, 82 X 12 = 984, divided by 11.5 = 85.5. 1/85 scale. Given the varience in estimated length, I find a scale of 1/80--the listed scale--probable.\ Kinto Apatosaurus: 1/80 Bullyland apatosaurus: 1/51........ listed scale ( on his tummy ) 1'30. with the tail stretched out, this figure measures 19 inches.to get to 1/40, it would need to be 24.5 inches. For the listed 1/30, iit would need to be about 33 inches. Papo triceratops: 1/37 Galaxy triceratops: 1/36 carnegie triceratops--original: 1/55 carnegie triceratops--new: 1/51 Wild Safari triceratops--08: 1/48 Waiphoon styracosaurus: 1/33 Carnegie styracosaurus: 1/39 Procon styracosaurus: 1/43 Wild Safari leptoceratops: 1/34 Procon pachyrhinosaurus: 1/52 Procon ankylosaurus: 1/64 Carnegie ankylosaurus: 1/58 Procon polacanthus: 1/36 WWD polacanthus: 1/20 Schleich Replicasaurus saichania: 139 WWD torosaurus: 1/42 Carnegie Tylosaurus: 1/42 Papo allosaurus: 1/40 Bullyland allosaurus: 1/37 Schleich replicasaurus allosaurus: 1/37 Wild Safari 08 allosaurus: 1/52 Papo spinosaurus: 1/52
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Post by kikimalou on Feb 19, 2009 13:15:00 GMT
well, as i said to teton, even if my collection is new and poor I will try to do the same. My rule is the same as Theri but adapted for metric system addict. Search the supposed size in meters of the real animal, multiply it by 100 and divide the result by the toy's size in centimeter, then you will have the scale.
I used a tapeline to avoid curved tail's problems and use this rule for length, heigth( specially with bipedal dino) and wingspan for pterosaurs.
So let's go :
CERATOPIANS
Schleich Triceratops new: 9m x 100 = 900 divided by 22cm = 40,9 : 1/41
Toyways WWD Torosaurus : 7,6 x 100 = 760 divided by 22 = 34,54 : 1/35
Kaiyodo UHA collectors club Protoceratops : 1,5 to 2m long and Toy is 11cm long so the scale is between 1/14 and 1/18.
Kaiyodo UHA serie 5 protoceratops : between 1/21 and 1/28
Kaiyodo UHA serie 5 triceratops : 1/128
Kaiyodo UHA serie 7 Anchiceratops : 1/92
Kaiyodo UHA serie 3 styracosaurus : 1/73
Furuta dinomodels triceratops : 1/115
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Feb 19, 2009 13:23:03 GMT
So, if I am anywhere near close--Theri! Help!...and considering curved toys and variable length estimates, I will round up some and here's where I stand:
1/40 scale:
Galaxy trike
Papo trike
Papo allo
schleich allo
bully allo
carnegie tylo
WWD toro
Schleich saichania
carnegie styraco
Procon styraco
1/50 scale-----the scale of most of kintos..
carnegie old and new trike
WS 08 trike
WS 08 allo
Papo spino
Procon pachyrhino
1/30--Bully's supposed official scale....waiphoon styraco
1/35---to the Tamiyas! yay!
WS lepto
Procon pla
1/20
WWD pola
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Feb 19, 2009 13:26:59 GMT
There is differences for the toro already. Hmmm I have 1/42, he has 1/35. That's a big difference.Tory is a pretty straight measure: I get 8 inches, or 20cm without the horn length. Beak to tail. See, the horns may well affect that?
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Post by kikimalou on Feb 19, 2009 14:54:39 GMT
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Feb 19, 2009 15:16:00 GMT
The Illustrated encyclopedia of Dinosaurs lists Torosaurus at 19.5 feet. A 25 foot toro would make the toy 1/35--ish. Sso, we are in the ballpark, assuming we can get the sources to agree about size....
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Post by Ajax on Feb 19, 2009 21:45:58 GMT
Hey Teton, are these dinosaur scales all going to be on the one list somewhere?
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Feb 19, 2009 22:14:19 GMT
Beats me, right now its an open thread, so anyone can join in. I will try to note the ones done, and if we mostly agree, list them.
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Post by Ajax on Feb 19, 2009 22:21:07 GMT
Beats me, right now its an open thread, so anyone can join in. I will try to note the ones done, and if we mostly agree, list them. Cool, if you keep adding all to your first post that would be great.  |
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Post by Meso-Cenozoic on Feb 20, 2009 7:39:08 GMT
This is great, Kevin! And, thanks for the formulaic inspiration, Theri!!
My own little method, at least to give me an approximate size of the toy in real life, was to multiply the toy's length in inches by the scale it says it's in. Then, divide that by 12 for the feet.
Example: The 10th Anniversary Carnegie T.rex is listed at 10 inches long at 1/40 scale. So, I take 10 x 40 = 400 divided by 12 = 33.33 feet. So, with that, I figure he's actually quite a bit smaller than he's suppose to be!
But, now with this formula, you can really get down to the exact size, whether it's right on, too big, or too small. Cool beans!
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Post by Ajax on Jun 30, 2009 5:35:20 GMT
Can someone please give me the scale for the large & small ammonite from Bullyland, I want to use them with 1/40 scale marine reptiles and just checking if it will work. I have never seen the size for either ammonite.
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Post by Ajax on Jun 30, 2009 5:52:14 GMT
Also the scale for the Wild Safari Dunkleosteus, Thanks
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Jun 30, 2009 7:04:55 GMT
Well, the problem with the ammonites is determining which species of ammonite the two toys represent. The sizes can vary widely, so determining the scale could be tough.
As for the Bully ones, I don't see how either could be anyway near 1/40. The larger of the two is 6 inches long---its shell is 3 inches in diameter.Good old Hans-the dinosnack--is only about an inch and a half tall. That ammonite would be huge in comparison.The smaller ammonite is about half that size. I have seen ammonite fossils in pics that range from smaller than the palm of a hand to about the size of a truck tire. I have never seen a fossil that would be represented by the monster this toy would be in 1/40. Even that Carnegie tylo wouldn't dare attack either of them...
I will have to look into the dunkie, but again, size will really be a best guess, since we have no fossils of the body, just the head.
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Post by Ajax on Jun 30, 2009 7:20:14 GMT
Thanks, I want to display my marine reptiles simular to what you have done with bases, and thought adding a few extra creatures (ammonites ect) would make them better. Im also looking for some small fish or sharks that would work with the 1/40 marine reptiles, maybe even turtles.
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jun 30, 2009 17:45:45 GMT
A couple more:
Procon Deluxe Scelido 1:17 (seriously guys? 1:40?)
Procon Olorotitan 1:78
Procon Lambeo(L. lambei) 1:57 (L. laticaudus) 1:92
Procon Lexovisaurus 1:35
Carnegie Baryonyx 1:35
Schleich Para 1:40
WS Scuto 1:27
More to come, I like doing this.
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jun 30, 2009 18:11:27 GMT
Carnegie Spino comes in at 1:50. For it to be in 1:40th scale it would be a 45 foot long dino, 10 to 15 feet short of estimated lengths. We got shorted 4 inches!
Giganato comes in at 1:40.
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Post by kuni on Jun 30, 2009 18:40:39 GMT
This is a great resource! My favorite scale is ~1:50 so it's cool to see that so many dinos are actually in that size range.
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Post by tetonbabydoll on Jun 30, 2009 18:44:23 GMT
That puts the Kinto favorite collection--at least most of it--in scale to the carnegie spino. Just look at the rex and spino side by side....you see how much bigger the spino was...
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Post by kuni on Jun 30, 2009 19:33:34 GMT
Given that the spinosaurids are my favorite dinosaurs, I may have to think again about that carnegie....darn it!
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Post by Pangolinmoth on Jun 30, 2009 20:07:55 GMT
^It is pretty awesome. I say go for it.
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Right. So it turns out many of the figures are not the official listed scale at all. So, to keep it all in one place...voila! Theri gave us a formula that appears to work well. Some figures fall almost spot on--Kinto, no surprise. Others, not so much--Bully stego. The formula was to take the length of the real animal, and multiply it by twelve, to achieve a number in inches. Then take that total, and divide it by the length of the toy. Now, some references vary quite a bit on estimated length of the animal, and many toys have curved necks, or tails and that makes my measuring a little guessy, as all I have right now is a straight 18 inch ruler. Also, many of us have noted that companies tend to skimp on sauropod tails, shortening and curling them into coils. Which means while the body may be one scale, the length puts it into a different scale. Dig?
