1/40 Spinosaurus- Released

[dinonikes]

I know that this one will be sort of a speculative piece- not much skeleton known from what I can find- but I took the reconstructed skeletal drawing form skeltaldrawing.com and made an armature tonight, had some time between things so there it is ready for clay, although there are others in line ahead of it- will post photos of the armature when I can-

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Ha hah... yeah we were just discussing you should start one of these guys...like beating Safari's Tylo...you can take out their Spino as well... ;D

This the pic your using ?

It's a species with a lot of fans..so hitting now and hitting hard is def a good way to go...would like the normal slew of photos ?

I know I showed you that pic before by Marshall with all the spines ? Since you have that method figured out of casting around the spines you want to try it ?

Maybe jumping the gun...but anticipating popularity.... I'll need two of these guys..have to remember my younger cousin the Spinosaur nut. ;D

[Meso-Cenozoic]

Here's another interesting skeletal profile with some of the other big guys for size comparisons. I guess these complete skeletons, for the most part, are best possible scientific guesses.



I find it interesting that some of these newer depictions haven't been going with the typical perfectly rounded half-moon sails on their backs.


I don't think this one is the most perfect model, but I find it has an interesting profile -- nice and beefy! (BTW, where's his eye? LOL!)

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Spino reference images :

[[][][]cordylus[][][]]

I look forward to it dinonikes!

[Meso-Cenozoic]

Another cool color pattern....

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I like that color pattern as well...this guy is going to be pretty hard to decide on a paint scheme for... :?

[timlee3005]

Here's those fragments and bits of Spinosaurus,along with a reconstructed skull again

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Oh.... can you make it look like this !!!

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It would be awesome !!!!







Ok, so I'm joking.....lol It would make a good retro piece though...

Brett has come through again and re-posted his Spino art so here's several great images :

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His typical design style for Spinosaurus would make an excellent figure.

Here's a link to his blog itself : carnosauria.blogspot.com/

[Dan]

Yeah, it would be nice to see a Brett-like rendition, with the prickly and ornery body. Harder to do, of course, but visually interesting.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Brett or Marshall both fly for me..I love the spiney look for Spiney...lol

I can't figure why the pics above aren't showing up..maybe I just convert em' to links.

[Dan]

We'll just link the pages, then.

Here's one I've never seen before: A feathered Spinosaurus hatchling!

carnosauria.blogspot.com/2009/04/feathered-dinosaurs.html

And of course, being done by Brett, it looks amazing.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I think that one was on his DA page but since he closed his account I can't be sure...at least he started this blog to post his new pieces... ;D

And it does look awesome..

[Meso-Cenozoic]

Blade, love the crossbred AlloSpino!!! ;D

Really like Brett's art!
I think this one's my favorite of the ones you posted. Although, I think his tail might be a little long. (I can't believe I'm saying that! I'm always finding the tails too short!! )


I like the other two. But, they look a bit crossbred also!

This one looks like a cross between a Spino and a Crylopho...


While this one looks like he's the result of a three-way, lol! Kind of a cross between a Spino, Crylopho, and an Acro...


But, they're all some really cool art, none the less!!! Way better than I could do!

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

All of Brett's pieces are based on scientific findings and theories..it's just they change... Allo/Spino is the way paleontogists used to think it looked...a generic therapod body with a sail.

The 2nd one might have too long a tail, but blame the scientists...he does based on skeletal reconstructions like the black and white ones above.

The next one, brown in coloration, has a more slender skull based on the new one that was found.

The last image has a skull more based on Irritator ..here's Brett's quote on the piece :

This is the most recent drawing, based on all the info I could find online. It looks like Spinosaurus is actually closely related to the South American spinosaur Irritator. At first Irritator was thought to be a pterosaur (it's skull is really strange even for a spinosaur,) but the new skull material for Spinosaurs matches it rather closely, even similar in tooth count.

What appears to be emerging is a very different animal than originally described. Long and lean, the nostril s far back on the skull, the neck designed for a more heron like attack. It appears to be a giant fish eater, perhaps it was forced to the water as it's great length wouldn't protect it from the other giant theropods that shared it's environment? (Carcharadontosaurus, Deltadromeus and possibly a few others, the remains are too scrappy.)

But what of the sail? It's been theorized that it was for fat storage, but the spines are very thin, I doubt they could have supported much weight. Possibly for cooling? Other theropods with similar size didn't have one, but maybe it helped when fishing in the afternoon, it does get hot inthe sun. I've also heard it was used as an actual sail for swimming... We know theropods could swim, we have 'foot' prints, really just nail prints;) But none of the other spinosaurs with associated skeletons show aquatic adaptions.. So I had an idea. It might be wrong, but what about a shade for hunting in the sun? Something to keep the glare of the sun off the water so it can see the fish below? Or maybe a combination of these? That's the most plausible scenario seeing as most parts of the body preform several functions.

[[][][]cordylus[][][]]

I am personally sick of seeing so many spinosaurs with all those little poky bits and dangly pieces all over the place It seems as though one artist did it that way (and it was probably good, back when it was fresh and new), and then every other paleoartist seemed to copy and they ALL started putting spines on them (well not all, but most). To keep spinosaurus interesting looking and different from all the other reconstructions, people keep having to add new things such as spines on the arms(!), HUGE throat pouches, ginormous claws, assorted multiple dewlaps, etc (look at todd marshall....). Dinonikes, I really think you should do a "plain" spinosaur, without anything too... crazy.

[dinonikes]

I don't think I would get into putting all of the spines and spikes all over the sinosaurus like those shown in the above images- they just wouldn't cast well, too small and too many of them all over-- the only spine will be in the name- I am almost finished with the armature for this guy- am working on three armatures at the same time- Spinosaurus, Suchomimus and Baryonyx- figured I would make them all at once as a batch together-they are all very similar- seems like it would be more sculpturally economical that way if that makes sense to you-

[tomhet]

Apr 26, 2009 14:37:49 GMT [][][]cordylus[][][] said:

I am personally sick of seeing so many spinosaurs with all those little poky bits and dangly pieces all over the place It seems as though one artist did it that way (and it was probably good, back when it was fresh and new), and then every other paleoartist seemed to copy and they ALL started putting spines on them (well not all, but most). To keep spinosaurus interesting looking and different from all the other reconstructions, people keep having to add new things such as spines on the arms(!), HUGE throat pouches, ginormous claws, assorted multiple dewlaps, etc (look at todd marshall....). Dinonikes, I really think you should do a "plain" spinosaur, without anything too... crazy.

I feel exactly the same way! I felt a big relief when I first saw pics of the Carnegie Spino

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

But guys we haven't seen a figure showing one like that yet... in fact there aren't many Spinosaurs at all...Schleich copied the Jp style, Papo is a JP maquette, Safari's is the only new updated one ww have and it is plain aside from the the skin detail, a few bumps and ridges on the sail. I'm not saying go all out like in the pics above... but some raised ridges or small spiked knobs , eye ridges, a couple on the back of the head, bits like that would make it different enough and not be out of order. You also don't want it to look like a copy of Safari's...I say bearing in mind we haven't seen the armature yet.

If your doing all three at once Malcolm that sounds nice..but I hope you make them different enough it doesn't look like you just re-scaled for the Bary or modified a Spino into a Sucho. DIff postures, mouths open to diff degrees all would help that out.

[Pangolinmoth]

Also, age of the spino should be a factor, the older an animal is the spikier and gnarlier they would look. I could see a really old dino being all sorts of spiky and gnarly, especially any species that had ridges and knobs as part of their skeletal anatomy. I personally would be STOKED to see a really gnarly spino, like an old bull whose been through some nasty fights. You know, missing some teeth, maybe an eye, torn sail, scars, etc.....