1/40 Spinosaurus- Released

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Brother I've toting that flag all along...seems most everyone just wants a nice clean, born in captivity, washed everyday, zoo animal though... ;D

I'll just to rough em' up when I get them I guess..

[Pangolinmoth]

Yea, whats up with that? Like, what if all the spino fossils we have found were female? And the male had huge bony knobs all over it's skull and was even bigger! Awesome mental images running through my mind right now.

[stoneage]

Apr 26, 2009 22:56:55 GMT @timlee3005 said:

Apr 26, 2009 19:17:18 GMT @tomhet said:

I feel exactly the same way! I felt a big relief when I first saw pics of the Carnegie Spino

I'm afraid I'll have to side with Cordy and Tomhet on this one...
I think all those extra spines,and lumps to make it different would defeat the purpose of a line that's intended to be as accurate as possible...

I basically side with these guys too. The Spinosaurus posture would be different then Carnegies because it"s tale wouldn't be dragging the ground. A posture somewhat like Papo's would be okay. Of course the shape of the head and body would be different. Also the work required to put all those spines on (for which there is no evidence) would be way to expensive. Oh,and if you want yours all mangled and beat up you can take care of that when you get it. ;D

[Pangolinmoth]

I think it is tough for any of us to make any permanent decisions on the spino considering how little of the skeleton we have. Have fun with it. Be creative. Challenge the status quo. If aliens found a one human skull do you think they would put ears on it's scale model? Maybe, maybe not. I agree with both sides to the argument. I just want us to not forget our imaginations when dealing with extinct animals.

[Dan]

Booth and Marshall are the only artists I've seen doing the "ornery" Spinosaurus thing, so I'm not quite sure what all the whining was about.

Battle-damage would be cool, though the intricacy of some scarring might also be difficult, as far as practicality in molding go. Maybe Malcom could enlighten us.

[timlee3005]

Don't mistake any of us stating our opinions for "whining".

[dinonikes]

I would have no problem with making an old timer spino- with some scarring, maybe missing an eye or the tip of his tail- I just think that at this scale things like that wouldn't be seen to their best advantage- that might be better suited to a 1:20 scale 'Collector Line' figure where those type of details would be better seen- at this small scale they might just look like defects in the sculpt or molding- I think that the running pose I have this 1:40 spino in will be different enough in itself than the other 1:40 scale spinos out there which all seem to be just sort of standing there resting on their tails- or resting on their arms-

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Let me correct myself a little, I don't mean do one with the level of detail those designs by Marshall show..that would be expecting a little much I think considering the scale. But a few larger spine, plates, and boney ridges wouldn't be asking too much..it's been proven that therapods had larger knobs and bits of armor on their bodies....I don't see it being entirely smoothed skin..doesn't seem logical at all.

[timlee3005]

Apr 27, 2009 1:25:20 GMT Blade-of-the-Moon said:

Let me correct myself a little, I don't mean do one with the level of detail those designs by Marshall show..that would be expecting a little much I think considering the scale. But a few larger spine, plates, and boney ridges wouldn't be asking too much..it's been proven that therapods had larger knobs and bits of armor on their bodies....I don't see it being entirely smoothed skin..doesn't seem logical at all.

Ah,you mean like the pattern of scales seen in the skin impressions of Carnotaurus,that would look good ;D

[[][][]cordylus[][][]]

Apr 26, 2009 23:16:54 GMT Pangolinmoth said:

I think it is tough for any of us to make any permanent decisions on the spino considering how little of the skeleton we have. Have fun with it. Be creative. Challenge the status quo. If aliens found a one human skull do you think they would put ears on it's scale model? Maybe, maybe not. I agree with both sides to the argument. I just want us to not forget our imaginations when dealing with extinct animals.

I don't see why spino has to have poky bits and dangly pieces to look interesting. it already has like twenty different features that make it look different from other dinosaurs! I really don't see the point in having them over dressed.

[dinonikes]

'nuff said on the issue I think- we shall see what I come up with when my fingers push around the clay-

[stoneage]

Apr 27, 2009 1:25:20 GMT Blade-of-the-Moon said:

Let me correct myself a little, I don't mean do one with the level of detail those designs by Marshall show..that would be expecting a little much I think considering the scale. But a few larger spine, plates, and boney ridges wouldn't be asking too much..it's been proven that therapods had larger knobs and bits of armor on their bodies....I don't see it being entirely smoothed skin..doesn't seem logical at all.

It has never been proven that Theropods had armour! The skin impressions that we have of theropods show scales. But if you look, they are so small that they wouldn't even show up on a 1/40 Theropod. There are no modern predators with armour. Show me your evidence. Prove It!

[Dan]

Stoneage-

Nothing has been proven, ever. Science can only disprove ideas.

Cordy-

I can't think of a single feature the Spinosaurus has that is exclusive to its species. Please let me know what you mean.

[[][][]cordylus[][][]]

Apr 27, 2009 2:54:22 GMT Dan said:

Stoneage-

Nothing has been proven, ever. Science can only disprove ideas.

Cordy-

I can't think of a single feature the Spinosaurus has that is exclusive to its species. Please let me know what you mean.

Long, oddly shaped skull-- Different from baryonyx and suchomimus, although they are similar

Size

Sail

relatively weak skull compared to other dinosaurs





And science can prove. Science proved that carnotaurus was covered at least partially by large bumpy scales scattered throughout it's skin. As an example/.

[stoneage]

Apr 27, 2009 2:54:22 GMT Dan said:

Stoneage-

Nothing has been proven, ever. Science can only disprove ideas.

Cordy-

I can't think of a single feature the Spinosaurus has that is exclusive to its species. Please let me know what you mean.

The best Theropod skin impressions are of Carnotaurus. The Encylopedia of Dinosaurs states that 5 mm Turbercles surround low, conical studs 4 or 5 cm in diameter, which were arranged in irregular rows 8-10cm apart. The non-bony conical studs run the length of the animal, increasing in size as they approach the spine. These skin impressions are over much of the skull and body. Basically Carnotosaurus had rough bumpy skin.
Blade says there is proof of armour. All I want to do is find his source, if there is one. Was it Ning?
If you want all the theropods to look like Godzilla then why not just call it Godzilla, Rodan etc. ;D

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Sorry DInonikes, let just get this out , because I did notice these scales or armor bumps, even at 1/40 :




Talk about overload :

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Apr 27, 2009 3:12:34 GMT stoneage said:

Apr 27, 2009 2:54:22 GMT Dan said:

Stoneage-

Nothing has been proven, ever. Science can only disprove ideas.

Cordy-

I can't think of a single feature the Spinosaurus has that is exclusive to its species. Please let me know what you mean.

The best Theropod skin impressions are of Carnotaurus. The Encylopedia of Dinosaurs states that 5 mm Turbercles surround low, conical studs 4 or 5 cm in diameter, which were arranged in irregular rows 8-10cm apart. The non-bony conical studs run the length of the animal, increasing in size as they approach the spine. These skin impressions are over much of the skull and body. Basically Carnotosaurus had rough bumpy skin.
Blade says there is proof of armour. All I want to do is find his source, if there is one. Was it Ning?
If you want all the theropods to look like Godzilla then why not just call it Godzilla, Rodan etc. ;D

Those bumps on Carnotaurus have always been portrayed as small pointed spines which man made version can be found in most civilizations military..usually on armor...so I call it armor.

Why bring Godzilla into this ? You just going way off base to infuriate now. Nowhere did any of this come up.

CT, none of the features you mentioned are entirely exclusive...there are similar sized predators and larger, Ouranosaurus and Dimetrodon have sails as well as some lizard species...and the skull..well you said your self Bary, Sucho and even Irritator have skulls that are almost identical.

I'm not going to argue the point further, since Malcolm wants us to call it off.

[Flipyap]

I would say simple "bumps" following the contour of the back would be appropriate, with maybe a more defined rigid spinal cord. Keep the design clean while still giving it some of the unique edge that the Spinosaur is often depicted with. Try to make sure to keep it overall fairly slender and agile.

[Meso-Cenozoic]

Blade, man, that huge Carno pic is amazing! Overload or not, the detail on that guy is blowing my mind! Can you imagine how long that took to create? Awesome!!!

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Apr 27, 2009 8:49:21 GMT Meso-Cenozoic said:

Blade, man, that huge Carno pic is amazing! Overload or not, the detail on that guy is blowing my mind! Can you imagine how long that took to create? Awesome!!!

I know...isn't it beautiful ? All those lovely spines and armor work...no clue how long it took to make..my talents don't lie in te CG realm...but man it looks great... ;D

I was a little concerned over posting it...my little dialup barely got through it....and my screen is stretched to the point it's hard to find the buttons..a rarity for me...lol

Imagine having a figure with all that detail in it....forgot my comp..it blows my mind..