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Post by Dan on Jul 26, 2009 23:28:23 GMT
The Tyrannosaurus vs. Triceratops diorama shows a carnivore getting gored by its would-be prey, and that was Sideshow's first Dinosauria piece. So I think the corner has been turned.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jul 27, 2009 0:21:56 GMT
I think both are heading toward extinction in that piece..there is no winner of the duel..though if the trike is sacrificing himself to save his herd..then that could be viewed as a victory of sorts. CM Studio produced a Deinosuchus that had just snagged a baby Rex from it's mother awhile back..that was pretty neat looking piece.
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Post by Tyrannax on Jul 27, 2009 0:57:34 GMT
I think both are heading toward extinction in that piece..there is no winner of the duel..though if the trike is sacrificing himself to save his herd..then that could be viewed as a victory of sorts. CM Studio produced a Deinosuchus that had just snagged a baby Rex from it's mother awhile back..that was pretty neat looking piece. Yes, that is part of what I am talking about. However, I do not simply mean a critically injured predator (One that may die on a later time), as there are plenty of sculptures containing hurt and injured theropods. I am talking about animals on the verge of death at that very moment, such as the Para being eaten by the Deinosuchus. I'm sure someone has "turned the corner", but the theme is obviously not shown often.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jul 27, 2009 2:04:21 GMT
I've seen a piece once before of a ceratopsian ramming a therapod in the side planting both horns and taking him off his feet...pretty neat but not the exact moment of death...even the pieces of a large hadrosaur crushing a raptor beneath isn't the exact moment..rather it's just the death blow....and you know that's all this piece is as well...the Para's not dead yet..but it will be...after being dragged under and drowned then stuffed under some roots or something to ferment a bit before the Deino eats it..if they are anything like modern crocs that is. Something that was off a bit in the story I thought is the mention of other carcasses or carrion present in the river...why not just feast on that and save the effort ?
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Post by Tyrannax on Jul 27, 2009 2:24:30 GMT
I've seen a piece once before of a ceratopsian ramming a therapod in the side planting both horns and taking him off his feet...pretty neat but not the exact moment of death...even the pieces of a large hadrosaur crushing a raptor beneath isn't the exact moment..rather it's just the death blow....and you know that's all this piece is as well...the Para's not dead yet..but it will be...after being dragged under and drowned then stuffed under some roots or something to ferment a bit before the Deino eats it..if they are anything like modern crocs that is. Something that was off a bit in the story I thought is the mention of other carcasses or carrion present in the river...why not just feast on that and save the effort ? Not the exact time of death, but on the verge. The Para is obviously not going to last but a few seconds. The Tyrannosaurus in Sideshow's sculpture is not exactly going to die at that moment, but there is no fine line between it and the Deinosuchus statue. So, yes the Rex versus Triceratops diorama can be considered unique from usual designs (In which the predator is usually killing the prey, but has not quite landed a lethal enough blow to actually kill the animal near that moment in time) , but it isn't quite to the point of the Deinosuchus' standards. An idea that can be compared, however, would be the Tyrannosaurus being impaled by the Triceratops' horns into the neck of the animal. Either way, both are a very interested twist, and I'm glad Sideshow has released two sculptures (3 if you include the crushed Velociraptor in the JP statue, but they are obviously not the primary characters in the scene) that can be considered truly different from most. As I said, there is no fine line between these, so understand that the Rex versus Trike scene is very much in the ball field. However, the rarest statues are ones such as the Para versus Deinosuchus diorama, ones that show an event in which the prey is a quick moment from death.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jul 27, 2009 4:48:26 GMT
i look at this way...out of both dios...only the Deino is going to live here...unless it chokes on a Dino bone...lol
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Post by Tyrannax on Jul 27, 2009 5:15:50 GMT
i look at this way...out of both dios...only the Deino is going to live here...unless it chokes on a Dino bone...lol And the threat remains!
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jul 27, 2009 5:55:49 GMT
Lol... doesn't it always.. ;D
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Post by Dan on Jul 27, 2009 8:02:23 GMT
I think it's a rather poetic piece, actually. The Deinosuchus will have descendants that live on, while the hadrosaur will be completely gone from the face of the earth. Something about the perpetual power of the reptile in that scene. Kind of sacred yet unsettling at the same time. Anyway. I'll save the poetry for the review.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jul 27, 2009 18:54:22 GMT
I can feel that...very good Dan.
I like the pics of it on Sideshow's site...with all the moss added around it ? They should widened it a bit and made some foliage a permenant addition..the green really works with it...but moss is difficult to work with and the general buyer prob won't fool with it unfortunatly.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jul 28, 2009 7:28:22 GMT
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Post by Tyrannax on Jul 28, 2009 7:46:46 GMT
It seems legitimate to me, but who knows? I thought the sculptures were all by one person, judging by the fact that they all look as though they have the same style of sculpting.
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Post by sid on Jul 28, 2009 8:00:36 GMT
I have to say it... The sculpture is good, but the backstory is even BETTER
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Post by Dan on Jul 28, 2009 15:58:47 GMT
Yes, I believe that is authentic. Many high-profile artists do use deviantart (even Sepp!) and though I didn't quite find this fellow's name, the Argentinian locale seems like it should ring a few bells. I'm sure someone cleverer than myself can determine his true identity.
The Sideshow pieces are the result collaborations between many artists, which are listed on the official site, but there is typically at least one famous paleoartist behind each one. Riojas for the Carnotaurus, Krentz for the Styracosaurus, etc.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jul 28, 2009 17:00:25 GMT
I read the same on Sideshow's site...but after reading the info on the Carno this artist has up, it looks like they sculpt them and the paleo-artist mentioned just paints them.
Their work is pretty amazing...but it sort of seems a cheap way to attach these well known artists the product is all.
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Post by Dan on Jul 28, 2009 17:35:26 GMT
More photos from Comic Con: Deinosuchus v. Parasaurolphus Styracosaurus Tyrannosaurus Carnotaurus And just because he looks so awesome, Superman
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Post by Tyrannax on Jul 28, 2009 17:36:39 GMT
I read the same on Sideshow's site...but after reading the info on the Carno this artist has up, it looks like they sculpt them and the paleo-artist mentioned just paints them. Their work is pretty amazing...but it sort of seems a cheap way to attach these well known artists the product is all. Well I suppose the famous paleoartists mentioned had to do something -- even if it was simply painting the sculptures -- to have their names attached to the items. Apparently Sideshow uses them to help sell their products.
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Post by Dan on Jul 28, 2009 18:01:32 GMT
Yeah, right. Because no one would have even considered buying that Styracosaurus before they learned Krentz was involved. He's a household name, right? Elvis, Michael Jordon, David Krentz. That's the Trinity.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jul 28, 2009 18:03:09 GMT
That's what I was getting at...most of those mentioned do sculpt and paint their own pieces..so I bet a lot people were under the impression they were doing the whole piece...not just the prototype painting. Nice pics Dan.. the Carno looks a lot better in these minus the flash...so does the old male Rex .... I noticed the Carno has a tooth or two missing...might be something to check for when going over the pieces in person. Are these production models you think or the prototypes ? Any chance you ran across a mention of Amoktime at any of the sites doing SDCC coverage ? I'm not even sure they went but I've been looking for updates to their products all over.
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Post by Blade-of-the-Moon on Jul 28, 2009 18:08:19 GMT
Yeah, right. Because no one would have even considered buying that Styracosaurus before they learned Krentz was involved. He's a household name, right? Elvis, Michael Jordon, David Krentz. That's the Trinity. Well look at the target audience..dino fans. He is known fairly well among them...I've heard about him for a long while in PT.
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