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Post by Griffin on Sept 17, 2011 6:33:54 GMT
Beautiful of course. But should the tails be more stiff and perhaps the feet a little smaller?
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Post by arioch on Sept 17, 2011 10:20:11 GMT
Feet and tails are fine. That degree of bendiness is perfectly plausible in deinonychosaurs.
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Post by Himmapaan on Sept 17, 2011 10:59:19 GMT
Already saw them in your blog few days ago. I was wondering why you were taking so much time to show them here or in Da....But I don´t understand your doubts. They look really great, as usual. I like a lot those crests, and also the fact that youre putting more attention to details like the feathered fingers. Great. Will you paint those? Thank you. I only recently understood that the fingers had fuzz too. Hitherto, I thought they resembled the feet and were scaly. I won't be painting this precise one, but it may form the basis for a painting in future.  Beautiful of course. But should the tails be more stiff and perhaps the feet a little smaller? Thank you, Chris. I had always felt that there was some degree of flexibility in dromaeosaur tails -- I often thought that absolute rigidity would have proved more detrimental than anything. It would have severely restricted movement through vegetation and been liable to easy breaks. So I was glad to learn from Arioch that there are recent studies to suggest this degree of pliability. You'll have to ask him about which studies though. ;D I can see the feet looking as though they might be too big too, though I did reference a certain skeletal by he who must not be named (sorry  ;D). |
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Post by Griffin on Sept 17, 2011 14:48:48 GMT
Whats the study? because last i knew the tails were like rods with ossified tendons going down the length of them.
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Post by Himmapaan on Sept 17, 2011 15:02:08 GMT
I don't think that's changed, but the estimation of stiffness may have. So tell us, Arioch!
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Post by totoro on Sept 17, 2011 17:41:58 GMT
I'm not sure what I think of this one, but hey ho...  Perhaps I should open it up to caption suggestions. The best contributor gets a bean bun. Oh, Niroot, that's gorgeous! Please do color that one!!  If you're taking requests, maybe peacock green? As for a caption, I was thinking: "Tenontosaurus for breakfast, Tenontosaurus for supper...God, if I hasta eat one more bite of Tenontosaurus, I'm gonna barf! They's so gamey! Let's go after a nice big, sweet, juicy Alamosaurus, what do ya say?" |
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Post by arioch on Sept 17, 2011 19:15:55 GMT
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Post by Griffin on Sept 17, 2011 19:55:54 GMT
Hmmmm not sure. I'd want to see more on it. I don't see why that couldnt just be distortion after death. Whats the point of those rods and lateral parts in the spine then? Doesn't seem to make much sense. To just go ahead and say that degree of bendiness is totally fine is a bit of an overstatement at this point.
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Post by gwangi on Sept 17, 2011 20:51:36 GMT
Hmmmm not sure. I'd want to see more on it. I don't see why that couldnt just be distortion after death. Whats the point of those rods and lateral parts in the spine then? Doesn't seem to make much sense. To just go ahead and say that degree of bendiness is totally fine is a bit of an overstatement at this point. Though I agree I just cannot see something having a tail that stiff, I would think there would be a tremendous risk of breakage especially while on the hunt, that is unless dromaeosaurs were mostly small game hunters. Some degree of flexibility would be needed no? Regardless of stiffness this piece is beautiful and one of my favorites. The scene reminds me of photographs I've seen of eagles or ravens perched on cliffs overlooking the forest. |
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Post by arioch on Sept 17, 2011 21:21:51 GMT
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Post by Griffin on Sept 17, 2011 23:15:42 GMT
Less flag pole more fishing pole is what I always imagined.
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Post by stoneage on Sept 19, 2011 0:01:21 GMT
My question is, is the Deinonychus wagging the tail or is the tail wagging the Deinonychus?
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Post by Horridus on Sept 19, 2011 18:17:37 GMT
Saw these on Friday, so I did. Very nice they are too.
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Post by paleoferroequine on Sept 19, 2011 19:00:18 GMT
Yarr, these be really beautiful, probably one 'o me favorites. 'tis be quite spectacular if ye gift it some color, can't wait!  |
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Post by Himmapaan on Sept 19, 2011 21:11:24 GMT
I see you're well in the spirit of Talking Like a Pirate Day, Mr PFE. ;D Thank you, everyone. I won't be adding colour to this precise one, but a painting based on it could well arise one day. Curt, funnily enough, I once dreamt of a dromaeosaur with green peafowl plumage (I also met Chris D (Griffin) in the dream; that was before I actually met him when he visited London), so I'm hoping to paint that on fine day too. This elusive and extraordinary 'one fine day' upon which I hope to have accomplished a number of things...  But are there no more caption suggestions? At this rate, the bean bun may have to go to Mr Stoneage, you know... |
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Post by arioch on Sept 21, 2011 10:00:03 GMT
I really can´t think of a best caption :/.. but that one maybe could be improved changing the Alamosaurus for the contemporary Astrodon or sauropelta, and the other Deinonychus responding something like: "hmm not sure buddy...I´d like to try with something of our size for once" ;D And again do not worry about the tails, if there were something wrong with them some of the expert members of Deinonychosauria would´ve mention it by now.  |
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Post by Himmapaan on Sept 21, 2011 15:40:30 GMT
Changing the Alamosaurus? But I hadn't drawn one. ;D I'm not too worried about the tails. Whilst I'm not so sure about their being able to flex into an s-bend, I think the 'fishing rod' analogy is reasonable, and I think this drawing fits into that plausibility well enough. ETA: Ah, I see you were refering to the Alamosaurus in Curt's suggestion. The one caption I thought of myself was simply 'Ice cream!' ;D |
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Post by arioch on Sept 21, 2011 16:55:35 GMT
That would be nice too. ;D About the tails you only have to be careful with the tip, which seems to be the most inflexible part. I dont think yours are very S-like. Ive seen depictions of resting deinonychosaurs with their tails almost wrapped around the body with the tip near the snout, considered completely accurate by paleontologists. Something like this: deinonychosauria.deviantart.com/gallery/31652414#/deq286Also, think in the Troodon towards the end of Dinosaur Revolution last Episode. He sits next to the Tyrannosaur corpse and flex the tail similarly, if I recall it correctly. I havent seen any expert pointing that out yet (as the DR animals are, in general flawless anatomically wise) |
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Post by Griffin on Sept 21, 2011 17:30:49 GMT
The tail would have had lots of flexibility at the base. The rest of it would have been like a fishing pole. So there was some degree of flexibility but still pretty rigid.
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Post by bokisaurus on Sept 22, 2011 5:28:42 GMT
Another nice one. Was looking at your DA site, and will be getting some of your prints... guess I will have to settle for prints   ;D |
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;D). 
If you're taking requests, maybe peacock green? 
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