2011 Figures

[bokisaurus]

Sept 24, 2010 21:25:51 GMT Dinotoyforum said:

Not too bad. Here is my reconstruction of Rhom for comparison:



and also for comparison, here is a crude sculpture I produced with accurate proportions:

Well, not too bad indeed! Great to see that its fairly close to the reconstruction.

[sbell]

Sept 25, 2010 5:58:13 GMT bokisaurus said:

Sept 24, 2010 21:08:08 GMT sbell said:

Where did you find a picture of the Rhom?

;D Peter Leung, CollectA's General Manager He sent me the photos last July when I asked him about the figures status. Cool, ya?
Glad that it looks really nice, and at 1:40 scale, good size.

Given the scale, that must be a Deluxe. So be prepared to shell out some cash folks--this won't be a $5 toy.

[brontodocus]

Must be a small deluxe, though. If it's 1:40 the figure should not be longer than 175 mm, similar in size to their Liopleurodon. But I agree that it must be a deluxe, otherwise they wouldn't give a scale for it at all.

Is that the definite paint job the figure will get in the picture Boki posted (btw, thanks for the pictures Boki and Dinotoyforum ? I have no problems with a more or less uniformly green but I liked the colour scheme of the older photo more. But what's more important, I like the sculpt and am really looking forward to its release.

[Meso-Cenozoic]

sbell wrote: From what I've found, no shoulder spikes were found with Miragaia, so they didn't include them. Do we really want companies to start assuming at all times, just because we think they should?

Not trying to continue an argument here, just trying to learn how better to read some of these scientific papers that include illustrations of actual skeletal bones that have been supposedly found.

When I did a search for this guy, I only tried to read the "scientific research" sites by paleontologists and museums. I have to say, I get confused by some of these sites with their illustrations. If there are actual bones that have been found, then why do some sites differ with their illustrations? I definitely do not consider myself an expert on the scientific end of any of these prehistoric animals. Besides knowing just the basic specs about dinos and such, I've just always thought they were really cool! Heh, heh! But, I do try and learn more about them all the time, and these scientific illustrations often confuse me more than they help me learn what is actually known.

In this life restoration and skeletal recreation I found, it appears that there are shoulder spikes that have been found. (note: actual bones found in white).

Artistic interpretation of the stegosaur dinosaur Miragaia longicollum and the preserved skeletal material of the specimen ML433 (illustration by Simão Mateus). For osteological purposes see Mateus et al. (2009).

This is the site I found this on...
www.jpaleontologicaltechniques.org/pasta3/JPT%20N5/Bulletin_intro.html

So, I'm posting this in hopes of learning, from you guys who know better, how to better read, understand, detect and decipher which scientific sites are more accurate and better to learn from.
~ Thanks, from one who can be notably blind to the obvious!

[Radman]

Sept 25, 2010 11:10:41 GMT Meso-Cenozoic said:

sbell wrote: From what I've found, no shoulder spikes were found with Miragaia, so they didn't include them. Do we really want companies to start assuming at all times, just because we think they should?

Not trying to continue an argument here, just trying to learn how better to read some of these scientific papers that include illustrations of actual skeletal bones that have been supposedly found.

When I did a search for this guy, I only tried to read the "scientific research" sites by paleontologists and museums. I have to say, I get confused by some of these sites with their illustrations. If there are actual bones that have been found, then why do some sites differ with their illustrations? I definitely do not consider myself an expert on the scientific end of any of these prehistoric animals. Besides knowing just the basic specs about dinos and such, I've just always thought they were really cool! Heh, heh! But, I do try and learn more about them all the time, and these scientific illustrations often confuse me more than they help me learn what is actually known.

In this life restoration and skeletal recreation I found, it appears that there are shoulder spikes that have been found. (note: actual bones found in white).

Artistic interpretation of the stegosaur dinosaur Miragaia longicollum and the preserved skeletal material of the specimen ML433 (illustration by Simão Mateus). For osteological purposes see Mateus et al. (2009).

This is the site I found this on...
www.jpaleontologicaltechniques.org/pasta3/JPT%20N5/Bulletin_intro.html

So, I'm posting this in hopes of learning, from you guys who know better, how to better read, understand, detect and decipher which scientific sites are more accurate and better to learn from.
~ Thanks, from one who can be notably blind to the obvious!

Anyone that wants to customize their figure next year send me a PM, I can clip thorns from my lime tree that should work fine for shoulder spikes. Yes, lime trees have long, nasty thorns.
;D

[ikessauro]

Anyone that wants to customize their figure next year send me a PM, I can clip thorns from my lime tree that should work fine for shoulder spikes. Yes, lime trees have long, nasty thorns.
;D

Hey, nice ideia. I will take some of my lemon tree, it has quite big spikes too. Sometimes they are very sharp. I won't customize the Miragaia, but will be cool to do it in some chinasaurs, to learn how to do customs .

[sbell]

And yet this image:



Is from Proceedings of the Royal Society B by Octavio Mateus, Susannah Maidment, and Nicolai A. Christiansen.
rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2009/02/21/rspb.2008.1909.full

There seems to be some confusion as to what has been found.

We're not saying that shoulder spikes aren't there, but it appears that there is some confusion--the primary article shows no spikes, yet the referring article (yours) does--and claims the primary source as its reference. Weird.

[paleoferroequine]

Sept 25, 2010 16:00:18 GMT sbell said:

And yet this image:



Is from Proceedings of the Royal Society B by Octavio Mateus, Susannah Maidment, and Nicolai A. Christiansen.
rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2009/02/21/rspb.2008.1909.full

There seems to be some confusion as to what has been found.


We're not saying that shoulder spikes aren't there, but it appears that there is some confusion--the primary article shows no spikes, yet the referring article (yours) does--and claims the primary source as its reference. Weird.

I'm definitely no expert, but the referring article has also shown the skull as complete, which it wasn't and spines on the back and tail as opposed to plates in the primary article. The primary article does however mention that one dermal spine was found. Now, where the spine goes is the problem, shoulder, back or end of tail ? Since the skeleton is the anterior part of the animal that might be why someone put the spine on the shoulder. Just a guess.

[Meso-Cenozoic]

Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one confused, lol! As far as the second half of the body's plates or spikes, I guess it's anyone's guess, since it looks like they haven't been found yet according to either of the illustrations. Maybe since there's still some debate about the shoulder spikes, maybe Carnegie opted them out since the WS Kentro already has them. This way it will make the appearance of the new Miragaia stand out even more for selling purposes. Instead of kids thinking it just looks like a big Kentro they already have, they'll think it's a newer different figure.

Anyway, I was just curious. But in the end, I will most definitely be getting this figure. He is quite a handsome little guy, especially after seeing the newest, cleaned-up pic we got!

[Meso-Cenozoic]

As for the Rhomaleosaurus figure, I like him. I do like the subtle color details on the first pick we got better. But, this newer pic is smaller and the figure is a little dark. So, it still may have some subtle color patterns we're not seeing very well.

Here they are together...

[stormnl]

very impressive new dinosaurs line,from safarie and procon

but again NO new Mammals

maybey papo our Schleich our bullyland

lets wait til end of october
if there wil be new mammals in 2011

[thelordsgym]

Sept 26, 2010 10:24:07 GMT stormnl said:

very impressive new dinosaurs line,from safarie and procon

but again NO new Mammals

maybey papo our Schleich our bullyland

lets wait til end of october
if there wil be new mammals in 2011

Man I sure hope so......especially some of the more obscure ones like brontops and uintatherium.....The way safari is making figures now, those would be killer pieces....

[[][][]cordylus[][][]]

Sept 26, 2010 10:56:13 GMT thelordsgym said:

Sept 26, 2010 10:24:07 GMT stormnl said:

very impressive new dinosaurs line,from safarie and procon

but again NO new Mammals

maybey papo our Schleich our bullyland

lets wait til end of october
if there wil be new mammals in 2011

Man I sure hope so......especially some of the more obscure ones like brontops and uintatherium.....The way safari is making figures now, those would be killer pieces....

Both safari and carnegie have said they won't be making any new mammals... But then again they're making a inostrancevia and they did a basilosaurus in the toob this year so who knows.

[terrorchicken]

they could at least give us some extinct birds to go with their dodo: a terror bird & maybe a moa & a great auk.

[DinoLord]

Safari already made a dodo for their Wings of the World line. It's a nice figure.

[[][][]cordylus[][][]]

Sept 26, 2010 22:17:35 GMT DinoLord said:

Safari already made a dodo for their Wings of the World line. It's a nice figure.

He said 'to go with' ; which means to be next to the already existing dodo.

[tanystropheus]

Sept 26, 2010 23:45:04 GMT [][][]cordylus[][][] said:

Sept 26, 2010 22:17:35 GMT DinoLord said:

Safari already made a dodo for their Wings of the World line. It's a nice figure.

He said 'to go with' ; which means to be next to the already existing dodo.

how about the papo dodo?

[bokisaurus]

Sept 24, 2010 0:42:04 GMT deanm said:

I'm doing a pterosaur happy dance!! If it is true, I'll have two new pterosaurs in 2011. I am eternally hopeful that some other company will release one also!!! I would love to see a ground striding figure instead of the standard flying poses.

Sept 23, 2010 23:34:46 GMT Griffin said:

Hatzegopteryx I am the most interested in seeing. I wonder if it will be in flight or if it will be walking/standing.

Concavenator is being made and they didn't think to put any of the weird new ceratopsians in??? I was hoping for a Diabloceratops or Medusaceratops from them.

;D It is odd that CollectA has not released any pterosaur other than the standard pteranodon that was part of their very first release. Its been four years since then, It would be interesting to see how these two turns out. They probably will be good
With their reputation of giving some of their figures "unconventional" poses, it is a good bet that the Hatzegopteryx would be done in walking/standing pose

[deanm]

Is there any word or rumors of new Japanese minature figures for 2011?

[deanm]

I would also love for Safari to release a toob of pterosaur skulls. Given the diversity of skull morphologies I'm sure it would be a nice complement to their Dino Skull toob.

Sbell - maybe you can put in the good word to Safari