Some dino sketches (Updated: Old rivals)

[arioch]

Yes, the neck is turned since it is staring at the plateosaur. I think move the right leg forward would do the job, and makes sense considering the right arm angle.

I guess at first I was thinking of a lateral view but later when it was already half done I unconsciously decided to make a more interesting pose and changed the angle. It happens a lot, I´m a bit undecisive.

The second and easier option could be just change the feet and convert it in a dull profile shot. I´m probably going with his one.

[arioch]

Please tell me what do you think of this concept sketch.

Its a couple of Mamenchisaurus watching for predators or another threats while their eggs hatches. A brand new born met mommy for the first time.




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The perspective is a bit extreme, also as whole is a bit different to everything Ive done so far.



Any advice or request before I go on with it (I believe the closer adult head should be bigger and the egg´s smaller)?

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

I applaud your courage t o try something so extreme..that's a lot of neck to squeeze in there...lol Sauropods aren't my forte' but they look good and the whole scene has a Land Before Time feel...specifically when Littlefoot first meets his mom. ;D

[arioch]

True! Though actually I was thinking of doing something with a Luis Rey extravagant style...but maybe my memories of that movie influenced it unconsciously!

Also I started another sketch inspired by a fabulous customized model recently posted on the forum...can´t tell which one at the moment ;D

Crap...Why would I have the need to start new ambitious drawings instead of finishing the previous ones...

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

That's just part of being artist ! I'm still reworking this Raptor of mine, it's not done coated, I haven't decided on paint yet, how I'm going to afford to fix up the base...all that good stuff and I'm sketching out and daydreaming how I can start my Brachiosaur and ..yes..another thought...a small Spinosaurus ( 9' ) complete with pond and fish...isn't it fun being creative ? hah hah... "cry " .

[Griffin]

I agree with making the egg smaller.

I thought the consensus on sauropod eggs and young is that they laid them and then left them to fend for themselves. I still like the image that you have though. It reminds me of Land Before Time.

I think the back feet of sauropods were more plantigrade than what you have drawn here.

Other than that it looks good to me!

[arioch]

Jun 6, 2011 1:01:07 GMT Griffin said:

I agree with making the egg smaller.

I thought the consensus on sauropod eggs and young is that they laid them and then left them to fend for themselves. I still like the image that you have though. It reminds me of Land Before Time.

Wasn´t that the consensus when they still thought sauropods buried the eggs like turtles and left inmediately? Now that its known their nests were open I think the analogy with crocodiles and their young could not be far from the truth (although I don´t reject another theories)...anyway just out of curiosity is there a paper or any source about it?

I know what you mean with the plantigrade feet. The animals are still a bit unshaped, its barely a concept. The feet and other details would look better in the clean version (which I believe I will post tomorrow. Or maybe not, working in the latest sketch is actually more exciting....)

[arioch]

Here´s another thing I´ve been working on lately:


Atrociraptor marshalli! The Deinonychus relative of Late Cretaceous Canada.






And a (bad) test scheme:

[arioch]

Carcharodontosaurus teaching Spinosaurus who is the real apex predator here.





And some advance with the colours:

[Himmapaan]

Oh, my...

[zopteryx]

Come on Spino, just shake that one off! You can do it!

[Griffin]

Brutal

[arioch]

Thanks!

And, oh, I´m afraid it is too late for Mr Spino to get away with it. He just shouldn´t try to steal Mr Carcharo carrion unless he wanted to become carrrion himself. ;D

I believe later I could post the finished Mamenchisaurus or Liliensternus.

Meanwhile I started repainting some earlier sketches. A bit of improvement over the previous ones:




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[arioch]

Mamenchisaurus finished:

[Himmapaan]

I like the expression on the little one.

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Same here..but the mom should be looking at it I think..instead of backwards..just my opinion though.

[arioch]

Well, sauropod eyes point sideways...they dont have stereoscopic vision like some theropods (I guess their sense of smell was quite developed, though). Maybe the shadow of the eye is too strong and it seems like a pupil looking backwards , overshadowing the actual smaller pupil which is in the middle, able to look at the side and a bit forward ( again I recommend to watch it in DA, here some details can´t be noticed).

By the way, did Edmontonia and Albertosaurus really coexist? Because I´m sketching those two having an arguement. (You can bet on who wins, I´m not telling -yet! ;D)

[Blade-of-the-Moon]

Stubborn old tank VS a carnivorous loud mouth....this should be good.. ;D

[Griffin]

Jun 10, 2011 1:58:31 GMT arioch said:

Well, sauropod eyes point sideways...they dont have stereoscopic vision like some theropods (I guess their sense of smell was quite developed, though). Maybe the shadow of the eye is too strong and it seems like a pupil looking backwards , overshadowing the actual smaller pupil which is in the middle, able to look at the side and a bit forward ( again I recommend to watch it in DA, here some details can´t be noticed).

By the way, did Edmontonia and Albertosaurus really coexist? Because I´m sketching those two having an arguement. (You can bet on who wins, I´m not telling -yet! ;D)

Yes I'm almost positive they did. Campanian North America had a LOT of known dinosaurs in it.

[arioch]

Edmontonia is always portrayed as contemporary of T. rex -hence my insecurity, but apparently it also lived in the Campanian IIRC. In the worst case scenario I still can say its a Gorgosaurus or some sort of transition form.